Posted on 11/22/2004 9:23:16 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
Bush's huge victory in the fast-growing areas beyond the suburbs alters the political map.
WASHINGTON The center of the Republican presidential coalition is moving toward the distant edges of suburbia.
In this month's election, President Bush carried 97 of the nation's 100 fastest-growing counties, most of them "exurban" communities that are rapidly transforming farmland into subdivisions and shopping malls on the periphery of major metropolitan areas.
Together, these fast-growing communities provided Bush a punishing 1.72 million vote advantage over Democrat John F. Kerry, according to a Times analysis of election results. That was almost half the president's total margin of victory.
"These exurban counties are the new Republican areas, and they will become increasingly important to Republican candidates," said Terry Nelson, the political director for Bush's reelection campaign. "This is where a lot of our vote is."
These growing areas, filled largely with younger families fleeing urban centers in search of affordable homes, are providing the GOP a foothold in blue Democratic-leaning states and solidifying the party's control over red Republican-leaning states.
They also represent a compounding asset whose value for the Republican Party has increased with each election: Bush's edge in these 100 counties was almost four times greater than the advantage they provided Bob Dole, the Republican presidential nominee eight years ago.
In states like Ohio, Minnesota and Virginia, Republican strength in these outer suburbs is offsetting Democratic gains over the last decade in more established and often more affluent inner-tier suburbs. As Democrats analyze a demoralizing defeat in this month's presidential election, one key question they face is whether they can reduce the expanding Republican advantage on the new frontier between suburbs and countryside.
"When any party is losing a growing group of voters, that's a problem
(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...
This phenom is really interesting and amazing up here in N California. The result is like the article pointed out, the fast growing areas in many counties are people like you and our younger relatives and young friends we know.
So many customers have left our cable company to get FNC or never signed up for cable, now the cable company is now including FNC in its basic package. Many of these young people that we know are not even opting for the local channel packages with their satellite system.
If the trend of cancelling local channels grows, the negative impact on the Rat 527's will be tremendous. Our DIL in N. California said that several of her neighbors have cancelled their local tv option with their satellite providers. One nieghbor lady while cancelling it was asked if there was anything wrong with the reception, and she said no. Then, the lady with the satellite service asked, "Don't you want to know what is going on locally?"
Her neighbor responded, "Our local channels are from San Francisco, and I don't my kids being brainwashed with local Gay agenda!"
I would like to see Congress allow us to use E coast or Midwest Broadcasts to watch what few network shows we watch on Dish. That way we could watch them early and go to bed. These are a handful of shows: Navy CSI, Joan of Arcadia and Jag, which seems to be jumping the PC shark again. Then our local channels from Gay Frisco would not receive any money from us.
"When we revisit the state in 20 years, the picture may be entirely different."
It will take at least that long. The sad thing is that until recently, CA was a Republican state. Up to 1992, CA was almost always in the Republican column. A lot of Dems have moved to the urban counties from out of state. Because counties like Santa Clara, San Mateo, Contra Costa, Sonoma and Alameda are still experiencing job growth, these counties continue to grow in population which will make it very difficult for future Republican candidates. Also, many Californians are moving to ID, NV, AZ, NM and other mountain states which drains the state of conservatives.
Liberalism in a nutshell!
So these are the "rural" areas upon which the Legacy Media harps. Suburban subdivisions. You'd have thunk it was overall wearing, plow driving, turnip truck riding hayseeds providing Bush with this outsize margins in these "rural" counties.
Is there a link and story with that interesting Graphic?
The power of spinning blow away by the facts!
Love it!
Is there a link and story with that interesting Graphic?
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It is from a rather long research type paper on welfare. Here is a summary:
http://www.neoperspectives.com/summary.htm
The actual paper can be linked through it. Here are some more relevent excerpts - regarding Georgia in the above preposted graph - atlanta georigia is home to the largest black middle class in America:
Colbert King doesn't say where he got his data from, but just from this raw data I found here it is clear that, at minimum, more African Americans are on Welfare in New York and California then in any southern state. The greatest percentage of African Americans on Welfare is in the District of Colombia. His attempt to disparage the south, an area which, despite being historically poorer, has lower percentages of it's children on welfare and is becoming a growing bastion of African American prosperity (probably for this reason) and then to link this to the Confederacy shows complete ignorance. Even if the Southern States had higher percentages of African Americans on their welfare rolls than the national average (which might indeed be the case) then these states have the most to gain - not loose- from Welfare Reform!
I wonder what Colbert King would think of blackenterprise.com's analysis (170):
Survey respondents placed a high priority on income earnings potential, cost of living, housing prices, and entrepreneurial opportunities. When BE first published this list in 2001, four of the top 10 cities were in the South. This year seven out of 10 are below the Mason-Dixon Line. Five out of 10 have a black mayor, and all have a black population of at least 25%.
Atlanta, Georgia, ranks as the No. 1 city for African Americans, driven primarily by entrepreneurial opportunities, earnings potential, and cultural activities. Future job growth is strong at 23%, and Atlanta is home to a high number of black-owned businesses. African Americans make up 61% of Atlantas population. (170)
Colbert King is only right about one thing: that African Americans would be the group most affected by Welfare Reform. What about other black leaders in and out of Congress? There must have been a curious alliance of African Americans, who traditionally vote 90% Democratic, and Republicans over the issue of Welfare Reform? Surely no African American leader would echo the Democrat party line against progress for their own people and constituents? African American leaders must have experienced the scourge of Welfare firsthand in their districts and be absolutely livid at the poverty and family dissolution that accompanied Welfare dependency?
Sadly, the exact opposite occurred. Mainstream African American leaders fought in favor of the continued subjugation of their own people. Again, this is how dangerous some of the ideas of liberalism are. It can brainwash even the leaders of the very people who have had welfare stomped on them for over 60 years, to the point where even their caring, educated standard bearers don't believe in the strength and competence of their own people. These African American leaders believed that poorer African Americans needed government help to fight their way out of poverty - that they would be unable to do it themselves. Caught up in their condescending compassion, they could not bring themselves to believe that the very help that they fought to bring their constituents, was the hopelessness and despair they sought to alleviate.
This fringe suburbia thing has been going on since rocks cooled. It is NOT a new phenomena. You see, younger families like to move to new neighborhoods, with have lots of other parents with young children, and cheaper housing, and decent schools. That element tends these days to be very conservative in general, but then it always was right of center. The ring of new neighborhoods just keeps moving out from the center, like the rings of a tree.
Wait around a while, and JAG & Navy CSI will be on A&E, SpikeTV, or someother satellite/cable channel.
The numbers look particularly startling in mid-sized metro areas such as Charlotte and Nashville, which until fairly recently had the bulk of their suburban growth contained in the same county as the center city. Extreme southeastern (and suburban) Mecklenburg County, of which Charlotte is the seat, voted for President Bush by 60 to 70% margins. But those numbers were obscured to all but political junkies by inner city returns which tipped Mecklenburg as a whole to Kerry.
To those who hadn't been paying close attention, the percentages, especially when considered along with the explosive growth, of places such as Union County, are rather eye-popping.
It's not just politics, but demographics in general: I don't think the exurbs have been getting their due. In the Charlotte area, and I'm sure elsewhere, we're being bombarded by press praise of "new urbanism," the "back to the city" movement, and the supposed benefits of mass transit (rail in particular) and the high density zoning which accompanies it. Problem is (though one rarely sees it reported, at least in the Charlotte Observer), folks aren't buying it. The pejorative "sprawl" is invariably used when it is mentioned. To the urbanists, one acre-plus lots, old oak and beech trees, red-tailed hawks, deer, neighborhood schools, low property taxes, and solidly GOP voting patterns are some sort of sin. God, I hate it for them...
Yep. The figure I look at (and the only one worth looking at) is the trend in larger metro areas as a whole, including fringe areas. Bush got pounded in those in 2000 north of the Mason Dixon line in general, except Cincinnati, which is full of folks from the Appalacians, who brought their retro beliefs with them, the two fat belt metro areas, the Twin Cities and Milwaukee, and Indianapolis. Bush did better in 2004, in general, although not in the Philly metro area, and not much better in the Chicago area, and slid back a bit in the Twin Cities.
Phoenix is in Maricopa and Tucson is in Pima, Pinal is sort of between
Thank you!
Pima County always goes pretty heavily Democrat. I don't know why--perhaps the influence of the U of A.
My wife feels that they would be good PAX shows.
The Times-Standard carried the vote breakdown last week. I will try to post it.The Arcata council has a majority Green party make up...
LIVINGSTON COUNTY
Bush 44637 - 59.14% Bush 58854 - 62.79%
Gore 28780 - 38.13% Kerry 33980 - 36.26%
Difference - 15857, 24874
Livingston is between Flint and Ann Arbor, and between Detroit and Lansing. Fastest Growing county in the state.
LAPEER COUNTY Bush 20351 - 54.66% Bush 25555 - 57.89%
Gore 15749 - 42.30% Kerry 18084 - 40.97%
Difference - 4602, 7471
Lapeer is the exurbs of Flint to the West, and also of Oakland County to the South. Rapidly going Republican. Used to have a democrat state rep.
SHIAWASSEE COUNTY (Has a 20 year dem state rep till 98)
Bush 15816 - 49.09% Bush 19405 - 52.94%
Gore 15520 - 48.17% Kerry 16881 - 46.05%
Difference - 296, 2524
Shiawassee has a dem tradtion(20 year state rep), and has been a swing county the last few elections. I think that's starting to break our way. The dems couldn't win the open state rep seat in the last race. Between Lansing and Flint.
ST CLAIR COUNTY (Historic Ticket Splitters)
Bush 33571 - 49.00% Bush 42739 - 53.60%
Gore 33002 - 48.17% Kerry 36174 - 45.36%
Difference - 569, 6565
St Clair is North of Macomb. Port Huron is a core city there and leans dem, but the fast growing areas are more Republican.
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