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1 posted on 11/21/2004 12:04:01 PM PST by Pikamax
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civil war will break out in EU soon .... everyone is waking up...... we need to help them figure it out ...


2 posted on 11/21/2004 12:06:05 PM PST by Gibtx (pajamahadeen call to arms.....)
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It's gut-check time for Europe. What are you?


3 posted on 11/21/2004 12:07:40 PM PST by Betaille (Harry Potter is a Right-Winger)
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The theory of multiculturalism holds that no culture is superior to any other culture.

Um . . . no. Multiculturalism means one should critique one's own culture mercilessly while celebrating and apologizing for the cultures of "others," even if that culture is more regressive than one's own.

4 posted on 11/21/2004 12:08:50 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (G-D'S TORAH defines conservatism.)
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Good article, some insight from Evans-Pritchard I haven't seen elsewhere. Good post!

Read the whole thing folks.


5 posted on 11/21/2004 12:16:14 PM PST by jocon307 (Jihad is world wide. Jihad is serious business. We ignore global jihad at our peril.)
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The assassination set off waves of violence in normally placid Holland. Mosques were firebombed. Churches were firebombed in return.

Europe is in serious, serious trouble. This is just the beginning. To wit:

Europe has a huge Muslim population. Moreover, that Muslim population is growing by both immigration and birth rates. (Native European birth rates are below the maintenance level; the Muslim fertility rate is growing). As the Muslim population grows, these problems can only be exacerbated.

Europe is ill-equiped to deal with internal violence. Their liberal / socialist societies have preached "tollerance" for so long, that they will tollerate violence against their own culture. Their proper response will be sufficiently delayed that a great deal of damage will have already been done by the time they respond properly.

Europe has disarmed its citizenry. They do not have a 2nd Ammendment. Their citizens are defenseless.

Europe has a socialist economy which is under severe strain. Moreover, its only source of strength has been exports to the US market. With the advent of the strong Euro currency, those exports are becoming expensive. Moreover, US imports are becoming cheaper. Their economy cannot sustain the exports and this will further damage it. A weakened economy in a socialist environment has a positive feedback element: more people unemployed mean more social benefits ==> more taxes or deficits ==> a further weakened economy. A weak economy will exacerbate the racial tensions between the Muslim and native communities.

Many of us thoroughly loathe Europe because of its behavior toward the US.

Well, they will have done it to themselves, and we can sit back and enjoy. Schadenfreude.

6 posted on 11/21/2004 12:19:47 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine
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"The theory of multiculturalism holds that no culture is superior to any other culture. As long as people practice tolerance, this theory goes, different cultures can live together side by side. But what if intolerance itself is part of one of the cultures?"

Tolerance is really only cultural pluralism - something unique to the Western world since the time of Rome. It is a purely Western invention, based upon respect for the individual and the rule of law.

It's obvious that the apes who inhabit our universities think that cultural pluralism is a given, rather than an exception. They are, and remain, historically and culturally ignorant pedants and fools.

7 posted on 11/21/2004 12:21:55 PM PST by Reactionary
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I reject moral relativism, thus I define multiculturalism as a pile of intellectual manure.


8 posted on 11/21/2004 12:22:27 PM PST by Kurt_D
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Not sure what wars between the races or religions have to do with multiculturalism?


10 posted on 11/21/2004 12:24:52 PM PST by Fishing-guy
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But the Dutch multiculturalists simply couldn't accept that the experiment had gone wrong. "They were in complete denial about what had happened in this multicultural utopia they thought they had created," he said.

That is because multiculturalism like its pal Political Correctness is a social extension of a dictatorial socialistic system, and without the strong man clamping down on the citizenry, this type of conflict will lead to open civil war. Europe now must choose between democracy where all intolerant religions are banned or a dictator who will impose islamic law on the whole population. How's that for a choice? Of course, the first step in clamping down on Islam will lead to immediate retaliation. Likewise, succuming to Islamic law has its drawbacks in the loss of freedom that will follow. For once, I am glad to see Europe facing this first, it will be a good eye opener for the left over here.

19 posted on 11/21/2004 12:32:12 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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One leading left-wing politician last week proposed reviving the blasphemy laws so that people like van Gogh can be shut up before they offend the Muslim minority.

Typical liberals. Yeah, that'll work!

23 posted on 11/21/2004 12:42:53 PM PST by Drew68
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"Multiculturalism/diversity is a our strength" is the big Liberal lie that threatens the very existence of Western Civilization like no power on earth has threatened it before.

What happens in Europe will eventually happen here if we don't head the warnings signs. Watch Europe for a window into our future.

Unlike the European immigrants that shared a like history and culture, many in the new wave immigration not only refuse to assimilate, but seek to influence and change ours, while maintaining allegiance to their old country.

They demand tolerance from the host country, while refusing to practice it themselves.
24 posted on 11/21/2004 12:54:37 PM PST by Main Street (Stuck in traffic.)
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"Van Gogh's was the second assassination to arise out of that culture clash. Two years ago, an openly gay politician named Pim Fortuyn was killed by a left-winger who objected to Fortuyn's aggressive attacks on Holland's high levels of Muslim immigration. Though that killing was equally shocking, many Dutch liberals avoided thinking of the implications of Fortuyn's arguments by dismissing him as a right-winger, Evans-Pritchard said."

Oh, well, if he was a right-winger then it's okay. This says a hell of a lot about liberal "tolerance".


28 posted on 11/21/2004 12:59:33 PM PST by Sofa King (MY rights are not subject to YOUR approval.)
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A great book by Lee Harris:

Civilization and its Enemies, the next stage of history.
He discusses how 9-11 changed this country forever, that we better come to the reality there are people that want to kill us.
The multiculturalism idea is part of the problem of folks not thinking clearly or wanting to face the fact that we do have enemies.


32 posted on 11/21/2004 1:04:10 PM PST by Burlem
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The author of this article is the token Conservative on the Newark Star Ledger staff and someone I enjoy reading. He's not everyone's cup of tea but I thought you'd like this one.


35 posted on 11/21/2004 1:10:35 PM PST by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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"The note contained threats to kill several other Dutch political figures who had been critical of the Muslim community."

And the rest of the world and the Dems/Libs wonder why we call these people "terrorists" and need to kill them all? It's called reality, people, something with which the Dems/Libs are not familiar.


39 posted on 11/21/2004 1:15:49 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - there are countless unmistakable hints that God exists)
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I think your right, but it amazes me that 9/11 didn't do just that.


42 posted on 11/21/2004 1:19:35 PM PST by Isabelle
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Tolerance is only limited by the desire of people to stand up and defend their national identity and heritage against those who seek to destroy them. Tolerance is possible largely because so many western people have been conditioned by the media and public ed. to disavow their national identity and heritage. This tolerance is rarely asked of those who are commited to destroying western civ.
54 posted on 11/21/2004 1:57:39 PM PST by eagle11 (Judge a religion not by the words of its adherents, but by their actions.)
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