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The ALABAMA/AUBURN IRON BOWL Thread...
11-18-04 | Me

Posted on 11/18/2004 7:58:22 PM PST by LowOiL

Please place your predictions, traditions, comments, jabs, and jokes on this thread for the 2004 Auburn/Alabama game...This is the thread...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2004; alabama; aubie; auburn; bowl; champs; conference; eagle; elephant; iron; ironbowl; national; roll; rolltide; sec; shula; southeastern; tide; tiger; title; tubberville; university; war; wareagle
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To: LowOiL
Opps.. Commish got the first prediction out.
21 posted on 11/18/2004 8:15:08 PM PST by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: LowOiL

All the minor sports events of the year are behind us now.

Things like the Daytona 500, The Final Four Tournament, The Kentucky Derby, The Olympics, The Tour De France and the World Series are merely the preliminaries to the true pinnacle of sports: The Iron Bowl.

The Auburn vs. Alabama game is why God created football.

Football is why all other sports were created, either as exercises for football, or as diversions to amuse everyone until the weather gets right for football.

I feel the same tension in my body that I felt on election day until President Bush was declared the winner. I'll feel this way until Auburn wins on Saturday. Should they lose....(I can go no further. I can't bear to think about Auburn losing to Alabama!) :o)

Prediction for the outcome of the greatest rivalry in sports? Auburn by 7. Say 17 - 10 Auburn.

Don't grab the phone and call your bookie. In 1989, Alabama was ranked #2 and Auburn was unranked, and upset the Tide.

But this year, the Tigers seem to be a special team - mebbe a team with a destiny. So I predict they will be throwing toilet paper at Toomers Corner in the "Loveliest Village on the Plain."

War Eagle!!


22 posted on 11/18/2004 8:17:06 PM PST by Rhetorical pi2
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To: Rhetorical pi2

http://www.univrel.auburn.edu/webcams/hargiscam.html

Here is a live camera feed from Toomer's corner area.


23 posted on 11/18/2004 8:20:58 PM PST by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: Rhetorical pi2
War Damn Eagle!

Rip Tide.

24 posted on 11/18/2004 8:25:38 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: LowOiL

I simply can't make myself believe that anyone could possibly think that the Alabama Crimson Tide can beat the Auburn Tigers.....not this year, anyway.

Auburn looks mighty tough this year.

LSU grad but not necessarily a fan.....just when they win. :-)


25 posted on 11/18/2004 8:29:28 PM PST by El Gran Salseron (My wife just won the "Inmate of the Month" Award! :-))
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To: LowOiL
JOKE 1:

4th quarter. Auburn down to Alabama 30-27. 4 seconds left. Auburn has the ball on the Alabama 7.

Tommy Tubberville: God, help me. What do I do. Do I kick a field goal and go to overtime or go for the touchdown and win the game.

God: Don't you kick no field goal. You go for the win.

Tommy: Then that's what I'll do.

Here's the snap, IT'S FUMBLED, ALABAMA RECOVERS. ALABAMA WINS. ALABAMA WINS!!!!

Tommy: God, why'd you tell me to go for it if we were going to loose?

God: I don't know. 'Bear', why'd we tell him to go for it?



JOKE 2:

2 bums were high in the stands at a Georgia football game. At half time the bulldog mascot runs to the middle of the field and goes to licking himself, like dogs do.

Bum 1: I wish I could do that.

Bum 2: Man, that dog would BITE YOU!!!

Æ
26 posted on 11/18/2004 8:30:21 PM PST by AgentEcho (If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers)
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To: AgentEcho
LOL, my grandpa like to take us "kids" to AU/BAMA games but unfortunately it was in that string of like 9 wins in a row for Bear. It hurt and it hurt the next year and the next.

***Shudder***

But grandpa loved his tigers, He played for them when it was "Alabama PolyTech Institute" instead of "Auburn". I still have his ole beanie hat and jacket from those days (29 and 30). Ahhh the memories...

27 posted on 11/18/2004 8:38:27 PM PST by LowOiL (Christian and proud of it !)
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To: LowOiL
War Eagle! Auburn is by far a superior team. But this game is won on pure emotion, resulting in the lessor team often winning.

Auburn has 2 games to play (Bama and the SEC Championship game against Tennessee for the 2nd time) to worm its way into the #2 spot in the BCS rankings. So Auburn should be well motivated.

Rain is predicted during the game making it a bit more unpredictable due to the likelihood of increased turnovers, with favorable/unfavorable field position playing a huge factor.

My prediction: Auburn 24, Bama 17.

As for traditions, the split of the SEC into Eastern and Western divisions (how long ago was that?)resulted in moving the Auburn/Bama game from the Saturday after Thanksgiving to a week earlier. This ruined family traditions across the state of Alabama of scattered siblings being home Thanksgiving weekend to enjoy the game on TV together while pigging out on Thanksgiving leftovers. Instead, both Auburn and Bama are always on a "bye" week Thanksgiving weekend.

P.S. Tommy Tuberville is a class act and I am proud to have him instilling Christian values in our athletes.
28 posted on 11/18/2004 8:46:35 PM PST by AUTiger83 (Alabamian by birth, Auburn alum by the grace of God . . .)
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To: LowOiL
WAR DAMN EAGLE
29 posted on 11/18/2004 8:47:27 PM PST by modest proposal
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To: LowOiL

Auburn is a very special place. This was posted on U of Maryland sports site. Written by Scott Van Pelt of ESPN:

A different world - Non Terps & a lenghty rambling mess Reply



Imagine you have been married to the same woman for more than 30 years, you love her more than anything - nothing could ever change that. You have shared many of your best memories with her and would never leave her under any circumstances. Then you spend a day with a woman who in some ways is more beautiful than your wife...you may never see her again...but you won't forget her for a while either.

Maryland is my wife...Auburn is " the other woman ".

If you all love college sports - and I assume you do - you really need to see a game there. I have been lucky to see a lot of places, I have not seen a lot of places like that. It's an amazing scene in every respect. Granted, I was there for # 3 vs. # 5...Auburn was 9-0 so it was bound to be good.

Some highlights:

I arrived at night with the stadium lit up like a Christmas tree. It sits dead in the middle of campus. A shrine...literally their church - only services are held on Saturday. Made me say....hmmmm...this is promising.

Gameday scene -
tailgating in every available space...and not like some field full of RV's - though they had that too. But literally people grilling and drinking in every available spot for as far as the eye could see. I lost count of the number of bands and stages and this was at 9 AM.

The Fans -
I knew I was in a " red state " from all the Suburbans with W stickers but the truth of it is, this part of Alabama is an orange state. Every man woman and child is in the same shade of orange. Not unusual I know ...but THIS was...they are nice, friendly , and polite - to GEORGIA FANS. Nobody called anyone in Black and Red @#%$ or *sshole..nobody told them they sucked nobody told them *uck you. These people are your friends, you don't know it yet because you haven't met them - but when you do - you have met a friend. you want a beer ? some bar- B - Q ? grab some. Let's talk for a while....war eagle...let's have a good game. I saw this at tailgate after tailgate. Stragglers who wander by are offered anything that's available - didn't matter what color they were wearing. This is the oldest rivalry in the South - they call it Brother vs. Brother and they mean it. Now there are certainly cliche's about downhome country sensibilities - but these folks embodied the best part of the notion of southern hospitality. Though many did admit it's a tad LESS civil for the Iron Bowl.

Tiger Walk :
Impossible to describe. Im - possible. A human welcome mat for the team. The team walks through several blocks to Jordan - Hare through a sea of people. I asked somebody how many folks were there and was told they could never come up with an accurate head count but that they were certain it was " well in excess of 25,000 people. " That looked a little light to me...I would have bought 40 grand. 2 hours before kick the streets in all directions were completely - and I mean COMPLETELY jammed. It was like a religious experience. If you can be in the middle of this - and I was lucky enough to get to walk through it - and not be overwhelmed , you are dead my friend. ( I just went Larry King on your asses- sorry )I was honestly in awe.

Gametime :
The eagle circles as 87,521 people ( less the UGA fans ) cheer Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar EAGLE HEY!!! The eagle pounces on some meat product and the hair on the back of your neck stands up...then if you are still unimpressed you get an F 16 flyover and were off and running.
Auburn dominates, the band plays, the fans hoot and holler louder than anywhere I have ever been ( and go Spinal tap and take it to volume 11 when UGa tries to audible ) 24 - 6 and it's time for more food and drink...but before that...

Toomer's corner :

everyone converges on the intersection of college st and whatever the other road is and they toilet paper every tree in sight. By the time it's over, it looks like a blizzard has rolled through Alabama. There are no riots, no police, no cars set on fire. There are families from grandparents to infants chcuking rolls of toilet paper all over the place. Again, i just shake my head at a loss...and maybe a little jealous.

It's a special place, the best scene I have ever seen for college football. I have ZERO doubt " our " TEAM could someday be as good. As fans though, perhaps we should aspire to be as classy as those I was hosted by. The type of hostile, vile garbage we are subjected to on the road and are certainly guilty of at home is just embarrassing when you see how they do it elsewhere. Not preaching here - just some thoughts of one VERY proud Terrapin after seeing the light Auburn style.


Go Terps - let's get # 5 on Thursday night


30 posted on 11/18/2004 8:50:06 PM PST by au eagle
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To: au eagle

Here's an article written by a New York columnist after the Syracuse game in 2002.

Go to Auburn, be forever changed
October 03, 2002

BUD POLIQUIN
POST-STANDARD COLUMNIST

I have descended into college football's Grand Canyon. I have stood in its Alps. I have gazed at its ocean sunset. I have done all of these things and I've been changed forever.

I knew, of course, that we were different up here. I understood that autumn Saturdays in our burg have never been given over to any kind of serious sporting fervor. I've accepted for a good, long while that a fair amount of our citizens regularly choose to pick apples or seal driveways rather than head to the Carrier Dome to watch the Syracuse University Orangemen at play.

But, Lord have mercy on our college football souls, I've come to realize we're not merely quirky in these parts. And we're not just overly particular. No, having attended a game in Auburn, Ala. - which is like going to Mass in Rome - I'm convinced that, by comparison, we're as dead as the flying wedge.

"Let me tell you something," said Paul Pasqualoni, the SU coach who can recognize bedlam when he is forced to shout above it. "Being in that stadium with all those people - the noise level, the atmosphere - was exciting. It was a lot of fun. To me, it was just spectacular being there."

He was speaking of Jordan-Hare Stadium, where four days earlier his SU club had lost to the Auburn Tigers 37-34 in an environment that was equal parts Woodstock, Mardi Gras, New Year's Eve and Madonna's last wedding. And the Crimson Tide boys, those rascals from the other side of the state, weren't even in town, to say nothing of the Bulldogs, Gators or Razorbacks.

Nah, it was just the Orangemen, a non-league bunch from somewhere up north ... with a losing record yet. But it didn't matter. This, because the cherished Tigers were on the other side, and that was enough for those Alabama locals to respond the way the French did when Patton's army showed up in Paris.

"I missed my wife's birthday so I could cheer on my beloved alma mater against Syracuse," Brent Miller wrote in an e-mail addressed to me following the three-overtime affair. "But you know what? I would have been there if our opponent had been the state of New York's worst high school team."

"Country, God and college football are usually our top three passions," e-mailed another Auburn guy, Steve Fleming. "But not always in that order."

"I grew up in Denver in a family with season tickets to the Broncos games," e-mailed yet another believer, Rick Pavek. "I call Auburn home now and, take my word for this, Broncomania is nothing like Tigermania."

The point is, with the Orangemen returning to the gray Dome that is so often lifeless to play Big East Conference foe Pittsburgh on Saturday, it's clear that somebody's not getting it. Either the Auburn faithful - and people like them in Knoxville and South Bend and Lincoln and Gainesville and Columbus and Austin and elsewhere - are far too crazed or we're way too cool.

Listen, down there in eastern Alabama they pass out full-color, high-gloss, 22-by-17-inch, two-sided, fold-out pamphlets titled, "The 2002 Guide To Game Day At Auburn University." And on Page 2 of each can be found the announcement that nobody is allowed to begin tailgating until 4 p.m. icthe day before the game.nm

"You can't be anything but envious," said Jake Crouthamel, the Syracuse athletic director who was a wide-eyed witness to all of the SU-Auburn doings. "You can't be anything but envious when you have that kind of support. I mean, there were 84,000 people in the seats. And the RVs and house trailers were lined up five miles outside of town. When you talk about the epitome of what the college football experience is all about ... that's it. Auburn is the epitome. You couldn't possibly be unaware of the spectacle, even if you were trying to be unaware."

The orange-clad zealots, who are in their seats fully 30 minutes prior to kickoff, thunder through choreographed cheers. The band, which is saluted upon its arrival by the big house with a standing ovation, blares. The PA system, which continuously blasts the sounds of a growling tiger, pipes in songs by the Dixie Chicks and interviews with the Auburn coaches.

Before the game, there is the great Tiger Walk during which the Auburn players march along Donahue Street through thousands of people, some of whom weep, and into the stadium. After the game, there is the mass papering of famous Toomer's Corner downtown. And between all of that, a golden eagle circles the place before landing on the field to a deafening roar.

And us? Um, let's see. We can't fill 49,000 seats. We debate, ad nauseam, standing-vs.-sitting in the Dome. We give our tickets to takers at the door who had to be schooled in the art of courtliness. We regularly vacate the joint long before the final gun. We allow, in a good-idea-gone-bad, a bunch of vulgar louts planted in a thing called "The O-Zone" to chant expressions you'd never say in front of Mom at the dinner table.

In other words to compare our college football experience to that of Auburn (and a lot of other places) is to compare a skillet of beans to a plate of Chilean sea bass. And while that might sound harsh, it doesn't make the words any less true.

Believe me on this. Please. I have descended into college football's Grand Canyon. I have stood in its Alps. I have gazed at its ocean sunset. I have attended a game at Jordan-Hare Stadium in Auburn, Ala. And I've been changed forever.

Bud Poliquin is a columnist for The Post-Standard


31 posted on 11/18/2004 8:53:25 PM PST by au eagle
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To: BoBToMatoE

Round the bowl, down the bowl, Role, Tide, Role!


32 posted on 11/18/2004 8:55:50 PM PST by loftyheights (Lutheran Loft)
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To: LowOiL
Toomers Corner.... What great memories! Anybody old enough to remember Sani-Flush or Kopper Kettle?

Auburn - Alabama game has to be one of the top sporting events in the country!
33 posted on 11/18/2004 9:09:01 PM PST by martinidon (Bush won sKerry lost and Soro's is out 100 plus million for nothing!)
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To: martinidon

I'm old enough to remember the Sani-Flush and was in Auburn when the Kopper Kettle blew. If you have not been to Auburn lately, you'd be so surprised at all the changes in and around town.


34 posted on 11/18/2004 9:14:45 PM PST by au eagle
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To: au eagle
I was there too. We lived in Auburn from 1977 to 1987. I was on the 10 year plan! We were trailer park trash as most students were living off wire road in Stonegate Trailer park. Living on the west coast keeps me away from the loveliest plains! My last trip to Auburn was 1998 or 97 for the Auburn-Arkansa game (I think we lost )
35 posted on 11/18/2004 9:22:48 PM PST by martinidon (Bush won sKerry lost and Soro's is out 100 plus million for nothing!)
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To: martinidon
That would have been '98 as Arkansas travels to AU during the even years. I don't think I could abide living that far away. We have been to all the games this year except Miss. State and will be in Tuska-loser Saturday. Cautious optimism for Saturday's game, but what the hey, 38-3, Auburn. BTW, boyfriend, now husband lived at Gentilly Trailer Park. We have just started doing the motor home thing for the games, so I guess we've come full circle!
36 posted on 11/18/2004 9:35:05 PM PST by au eagle
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To: Rhetorical pi2

That was profound.

I am happy to see somebody else who like College Football as much as I do.


37 posted on 11/18/2004 9:59:09 PM PST by ArmyBratproud (Ashcroft and Evans served us well....Can't Thank them enough)
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To: martinidon

From SouthernPigskin.com

Articles: B.J. Bennett

Previewing Rivalry Week
By B.J. Bennett
Posted: November 15, 2004

A look at the top four southern rivalries this weekend has to offer.

Rivalries divide states, they divide stadiums, and in the south, they divide families.

Ain't it lovely?

Auburn at Alabama
Recent history suggests than the Crimson Tide will have a hard time upending their in state rivals this Saturday at Bryant-Denny Stadium. Not only are the teams entering this weekend on two seemingly different tracks – Alabama has lost three of their last five, while Auburn is undefeated and hasn’t been played within two touchdowns since September 18th, but Alabama hasn’t had much success against the Tigers in Tuscaloosa. The Tide have managed just seven total points, one touchdown in 2002 and a zero points in 2000, in their last two home meetings. In fact, Alabama has never defeated Auburn on their home field as the Tigers hold a rather stunning 4-0 series edge in the mid-west part of the state. That said, this is the Iron Bowl, and making predictions can be risky at best. Despite the series record, playing 'Bama in a true road game will be a difficult task for the 3rd ranked Tigers, who come to town with a huge bullseye on their back. For the first time in years, the Tide come into this game playing for postseason slotting; such motivation will definitley make a difference. Quarterback Spencer Pennington has yet to find his groove, but the rushing combination of now-injured Ray Hudson, Kenneth Darby and Aaron Johns have, so much so that the Tide, not Carnell Williams, Ronnie Brown and Auburn, lead the SEC in rushing with 215 yards per game. Both defenses are two of the nation's best - combined they have held 13 opponents to two touchdowns or less. This clash will have old-school feel, as physical, smash-mouth football will be the overriding theme and big plays will likely be few and far between.

Fun Stat – Alabama and Auburn rank 1-2 in the conference in rushing offense and 2-1 in the conference in total defense.
Who To Watch – Auburn: QB Jason Campbell, RB Carnell Williams, RB Ronnie Brown, CB Carlos Rogers, SS Junior Rosegreen; Alabama: RB Ken Darby, DL Jeremy Clark, LB Cornelius Wortham, LB Demeco Ryans, S Roman Harper.
Final Thought – With points likely coming at a premium for both squads, this game will come down to who makes and who doesn’t make costly turnovers.



38 posted on 11/18/2004 10:14:33 PM PST by ArmyBratproud (Ashcroft and Evans served us well....Can't Thank them enough)
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To: LowOiL

no time for football, Half Life 2 is out!!!!


39 posted on 11/18/2004 10:40:17 PM PST by Texaggie79 (Did I just say that?)
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To: TheBigB; All
Bama fans may enjoy this.... I believe it happened in Athens...
40 posted on 11/19/2004 12:18:31 AM PST by ArmyBratproud (Ashcroft and Evans served us well....Can't Thank them enough)
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