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ACLU threatens to file lawsuit over abstinence program
. New Orleans Times-Picayune ^ | November 18, 2004 | Keith O'Brien

Posted on 11/18/2004 7:30:33 PM PST by Graybeard58

Despite settlement, Web site cites God

In a six-page letter made public Wednesday, the American Civil Liberties Union says a state program promoting sexual abstinence has violated a 2002 court settlement by invoking the name of God and quoting biblical passages on the program's taxpayer-funded Web site.

If changes aren't made to the site in 30 days, the ACLU said it will have no choice but to take the Governor's Program on Abstinence back into federal court. Meanwhile, the site, AbstinenceEdu.com, remained up and running, telling teens, among other things, that God is standing beside them as they choose abstinence and offering personal testimonials, including one from a girl who said

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: abstinence; aclu; antifamily; brainwashing; christophobia; doublestandard; indoctrination; itsjustsex; lawsuit; okaywithislamicstudy; permissivesociety; promiscuity; religion; religiousintolerance; seduction; sex; sexeducation; sexpositiveagenda; sexualizingchildren; teens; teensex
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To: Right in Wisconsin
better yet American Christian Liberties Union!

Or we could all join coalitions already in place. Not sure who they are or where they are located, but the ACLO is not backing abstinence because they want the age of sexual concent dropped, saying kids are free to do as they wish, and sexual experimentation is healthy.
21 posted on 11/18/2004 8:12:04 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: Graybeard58

I think that since the ACLU is federally funded with our tax dollars, that tax paying Christians should have the option of telling the ACLU what they can and cannot do or say. Then we can have the GOP run Gov't to drop the ACLU from the list of Federally funded organizations because of their biases against a large segment of the tax paying public.


22 posted on 11/18/2004 8:13:23 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
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To: goldstategop
uh huh, but that doesn't stop anything. We DO need a Christian hate crimes fighter! We do still have freedom of religion and freedom of speech, unless we allow the ACLU to take it away.
23 posted on 11/18/2004 8:15:51 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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To: Right in Wisconsin
I always thought it was the Atheist Communist Lovers Union.
24 posted on 11/18/2004 8:20:30 PM PST by Ronin (When the fox gnaws....SMILE!)
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To: All

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/111804/new_aclu001.shtml

here is a link that does not require registration


25 posted on 11/18/2004 8:39:53 PM PST by Ellesu
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To: Graybeard58

I knew that! I may be old but I'm not dumb. It was a joke. Get it? You're zip code reads to be June 15, 1954. I was REALLY born on June 12, 1898.


26 posted on 11/18/2004 8:43:47 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: Graybeard58

See post #26.


27 posted on 11/18/2004 8:46:45 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: Norman Bates
Can we get bumper stickers of that? Click here.
28 posted on 11/18/2004 8:54:00 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Graybeard58

Why haven't we thrown the UN and ACLU out of our country yet? We can't rely on our troops for everything. If we don't start cleaning our house, it will get overrun with rats soon. They just keep chipping away at our foundation.


29 posted on 11/18/2004 8:57:03 PM PST by Proud Conservative2 (We have to be held accountable for our actions.)
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To: Norman Bates
This one's good too.


30 posted on 11/18/2004 8:58:58 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: whereasandsoforth
It occured to me too late....If you think you are old just remember I am 9 years older than you.
31 posted on 11/18/2004 9:12:07 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Coulter/Ingraham - '08.)
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To: Graybeard58

Anti-American CommuNazis Loving Union at it again. I hope they are branded as a terrorist organization like Al-Qaeda, FARC, PLO, and all those radical environmentalists.


32 posted on 11/18/2004 9:20:10 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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To: Graybeard58

I guess so. You have out-lived a lot of people. I read the obits. Any day after fifty is just gravy. Sleep tight.


33 posted on 11/18/2004 9:21:41 PM PST by whereasandsoforth
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To: Graybeard58

Message to Al Quida:

For your next target, might I recommend the ACLU Headquarters building? There is a whole pile of Godless Infidels hanging out in there.


34 posted on 11/19/2004 1:33:56 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: Graybeard58

Who is funding these ACLU barbarians?


35 posted on 11/19/2004 1:35:42 AM PST by dennisw (G_D - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: dennisw
Who is funding these ACLU barbarians?

I think they are privately funded by members.

The poster in reply #22 seems to think they are tax payer funded.

36 posted on 11/19/2004 2:35:55 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Coulter/Ingraham - '08.)
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To: gidget7

I think the Christian right is quite powerful as it is. But, I do agree, the ACLU needs to be stopped. I think they are an arm of evil and actually hurt civil liberties by insisting on the removal of moral barriers.


37 posted on 11/19/2004 8:14:05 AM PST by Right in Wisconsin
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To: Graybeard58; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ..

Friday, November 19, 2004

The American Civil Liberties Union has threatened to sue the state of Louisiana because a state website promoting abstinence mentions God.

In a six-page letter, the ACLU claims the state abstinence program has violated a 2002 court settlement by invoking the name of God and quoting biblical passages on the program's taxpayer-funded website, reported the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

The legal group says it will take the Governor's Program on Abstinence back to federal court in 30 days if religious references are not removed from the site. Even so, the site, AbstinenceEdu.com, continues to mention God, with one personal testimony from a girl who said she thanked God after she chose not to have sex.

"We've been monitoring the website for a while," Joe Cook, the executive director of the Louisiana ACLU, told the New Orleans paper. "We thoroughly researched it, and we made the determination that the GPA had not only failed to correct the errors of its ways, as pointed out two years ago in the settlement, but in fact had gone out of its way to use taxpayer money to layer religious content upon religious content."

A spokesperson for Gov. Kathleen Blanco's office, Roderick Hawkins, said the website was being reviewed.

"Our concern is that the site comply with the agreement and the settlement of 2002," Hawkins told the paper. "That's what we're doing right now – making sure the site complies."

On the site's message board, one teenager poster mentioned God in her testimony:

"Virginity is something very special which we have been given by God and we can only have it once. When you give it to someone It'll be gone and you can never get it back no matter how rich you are. I'm so thankful to God for being with me and giving me the wise choice – to abstain. I'm 15 and so proud to be a virgin and I won't be sorry for that. I think one day my future husband'll be very happy for the decision which I made and he'll respect, trust me and feel secure with me."

AbstinenceEdu.com and the governor's program is financed with federal money.

For anyone living in LA, if you happen to run into Joe Cook and he sneezes - DO NOT SAY "GOD BLESS YOU". Just ignore him, perhaps he'll "get the message".

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


38 posted on 11/19/2004 9:54:19 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: Graybeard58
Apparently they make a lot of their money by filing cases like the ones against public displays of the ten commandments. Or like the boy scout case in san diego where the city council rolled over and handed them around $1 million.

You know there are these Ten Commandment monuments everywhere. And they’re probably 10,000 monuments or plaques that are in public buildings or public parks around the country. There’s a pot of gold sitting under each one, which the ACLU is going after.

There is a court law passed during Watergate era that allows them to collect attorneys’ fees for these cases for these Ten Commandment and pledge cases, and because they’re claiming they have a civil right not to see the Ten Commandments, a civil right not to hear the word “God” in the pledge of allegiance.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1283616/posts?page=7#7

39 posted on 11/19/2004 10:12:47 AM PST by tuesday afternoon (Everything happens for a reason. - 40 and 43)
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To: Graybeard58

Well Start with the FORD DOUNDATION. A left wing Socialist Propaganda outfit in NY. The head of the ACKU is a Homosexual Spanish Immigrant. Check it out, facinating

http://www.fordfound.org/

http://www.hoovers.com/free/co/factsheet.xhtml?COID=40154

http://www.etherzone.com/2002/jach041802.shtml


40 posted on 11/19/2004 10:57:48 AM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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