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Bill to Screen, Medicate Kids May Hit Senate This Week
The New Standard ^ | 11/15/04 | Christopher Getzan

Posted on 11/17/2004 10:38:33 PM PST by VIDADDICT

Nov 15 - Funding for a controversial Bush administration plan to submit the nation's school children to mental health testing and drug treatment may end up reaching the Senate floor this week, as GOP congressional leaders look to clear the legislative slate in order to set the table for George W. Bush's second term.

The plan, called the New Freedom Initiative (NFI), is the keystone of a package of initiatives by the President's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, a group of doctors and mental health care professionals established by the Bush Administration in 2002.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: banglist; govwatch; homeschoollist; homosexualagenda; mentalhealth; privacy; wodlist
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yes I'd agree, but as you can see, Meathead isn't the only problem. When our side wins elections, they implement, or at least try to, this kind of stuff. It's extremely frustrating to say the least.


21 posted on 11/18/2004 12:39:20 AM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: kingu
Not only is it racist, but it's sexist.

These sedation programs are primarily aimed at young boys.

Congress, keep your hands off our children.

22 posted on 11/18/2004 12:53:18 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: DoughtyOne
LOL. Sedate Congress!

Works for me.

23 posted on 11/18/2004 12:54:15 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: 2Jedismom

one more for your homeschool list


24 posted on 11/18/2004 2:28:11 AM PST by freepatriot32 (http://chonlalonde.blogspot.com)
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To: DoughtyOne
It pointed to a program begun during George Bush's governorship of Texas called the Texas Medication Algorithm Project (TMAP), which set a standard operating procedure within a flow chart allowing psychiatrists to identify and medicate possible conditions.

One of the reasons I didn't vote for President Bush.

25 posted on 11/18/2004 3:45:15 AM PST by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: All

This is a very, very bad idea. Good parents will get caught up in the CPS system and will be treated like criminals.

Eight years ago my now 21 year old daughter was suffering from teenaged angst. Since her older sister had been diagnosed with clinical depression, I did what I thought was the responsible thing, and had her see a doctor.

We had great insurance at the time, so the doc decided that my daughter needed to not only be medicated, but also hospitalized.

My daughter told a hospital doc that she didn't "like" being at home, so CPS got involved. It was a nightmare of epic proportions. I was sujected to home visits by a 21 year old "advocate" who knew as much about parenting as I do about brain surgery.


26 posted on 11/18/2004 4:16:25 AM PST by LuLuLuLu (Loud pipes save lives.)
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To: VIDADDICT
the President's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health

This Ministry of Health.

27 posted on 11/18/2004 4:24:54 AM PST by montag813
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To: VIDADDICT

This nonsense is getting tiresome. In the last regular session of the IL General Assembly there was a similar bill proposed. When I found out about it I started writing, phoning and faxing like crazy. The Bill was subsequently defeated, and naturally there was more to it than met the eye. The Bill was originally written and sponsored by my Sate Rep and when I talked to her she was 100% embarrassed and as she explained 'her bill' was hijacked by 'do-gooders' and turned it into an abomination.

Well upon seeing 'her final bill' my State Rep NOW worked like crazy to DEFEAT the Bill she wrote, which she did.

And when I talked to her, I asked if she didn't foresee the potential for danger and abuse of having 'the state' being able to classify almost anyone 'mentally ill'. And that by being classified 'mentally ill' didn't she understand that said mom and or child could then never legally own a firearm as one is never 'cured' of a mental illness. Not to mention that 'the state' could also then order removal of ALL firearms from the household, even if the father/husband wasn't 'mentally ill'.

She said, "Oh, I never thought of that. But you're right, that would affect these peoples 2nd Amendment rights."

So this is more than a mental health issue, this is a Gun Rights issue. It's an attempted end run around the 2nd Amendment - period. Mentally 'ill' people cannot legally own guns (Not in IL anyway). So if 'they' can't outlaw guns, they'll just 'outlaw' the people!

28 posted on 11/18/2004 5:37:41 AM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Wise words! I don't regret homeschooling a bit. If I'd thought ahead to know I'd have to teach algebra I might have had second thoughts.LOL


29 posted on 11/18/2004 5:42:12 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org Violations of Florida Statutes ongoing!)
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To: DoughtyOne

I like your idea. Let's screen them all!


30 posted on 11/18/2004 5:45:47 AM PST by msjhall
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To: VIDADDICT

Scary stuff. Dr. Laura's on a mission with this one, she's been on it all week. BTTT


31 posted on 11/18/2004 5:53:42 AM PST by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: DoughtyOne

These socialists understand very well what both Hitler & Mao understood.......give us your youth & we will prevail.

Why doesn't Bush understand this?

What in God's name is wrong with Dennis Hastert, Tom Delay, & the rest?

What am I missing here?


32 posted on 11/18/2004 5:56:19 AM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: freepatriot32

"one more for your homeschool list"

Oooh. I Didn't even think about the implications for forcing this testing upon homeschoolers.


33 posted on 11/18/2004 6:23:45 AM PST by Rebelbase (Indiscriminate reprisals strengthen the terrorists. Targeted ones weaken them. Aim is everything.)
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To: VIDADDICT

What is this crap? Do we have a tally of what Senators support this and which ones don't?


34 posted on 11/18/2004 6:33:51 AM PST by RockinRight (The Left's train of thought has derailed.)
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To: VIDADDICT

This is the first I've heard of this. What is this about? A group of nuts will screen public school children to see it they need to be medicated and then, if the parents don't comply, what happens? My personal experience with meeting some boys who have been medicated (because they are BOYS) is that they are virtually lobotomized. It's horrible.


35 posted on 11/18/2004 6:53:20 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: VIDADDICT
Thanks for posting this. I just heard on our small local radio station the vote in the House is today. We little towns tend to call and tell our Representatives what we think. Local talk regarding what this Bill could/would lead to is scary. Why do Legislators fell they Have to go create legislation? Any legislation. It doesn't matter what legislation. This entire country is drowning in legislation.
36 posted on 11/18/2004 7:04:40 AM PST by momf ( Immigrant =came the correct way; IIlegal = criminal)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING

Those lefties wanted to take my kid and put him on ritalin.
Instead I held him back a grade and he is now in HS getting straight A's.


37 posted on 11/18/2004 7:07:25 AM PST by visualops (Freedom is worth fighting for, dying for and standing for: the advance of freedom leads to peace-GWB)
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To: DoughtyOne
Someone has gotten to the President and in a well meaning effort, he is evidently intent on signing on to this tripe.

They got to him before he was president. Google TMAP (Texas Medication Algorithm Project). This is another brainchild of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation.

38 posted on 11/18/2004 7:10:24 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: bang_list; VIDADDICT; Condor51
Hey gunnies, take a look at Post #28. We need to get on the stick (or, more accurately, the telephone) about this one. There's no better way to take away someone's guns than to have them adjudicated as mentally incompetent or labeled as "dangerous to society."

Aside from the fact that this is a backdoor means of instituting gun control/confiscation, taking this bill down is critical if we are ever going to preserve our parental rights. Insidiously, this bill also sets the stage for the mental testing (and potential drugging) of every single person in the nation.

39 posted on 11/18/2004 8:37:34 AM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: DoughtyOne

"I'm about to the place where I think our elected offials are the ones who need to be screened."

Bump that!


40 posted on 11/18/2004 9:20:55 AM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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