Bill to Screen, Medicate Kids May Hit Senate This Week

The New Standard ^ | 11/15/04 | Christopher Getzan

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Nov 15 - Funding for a controversial Bush administration plan to submit the nation's school children to mental health testing and drug treatment may end up reaching the Senate floor this week, as GOP congressional leaders look to clear the legislative slate in order to set the table for George W. Bush's second term.

The plan, called the New Freedom Initiative (NFI), is the keystone of a package of initiatives by the President's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health, a group of doctors and mental health care professionals established by the Bush Administration in 2002.

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Call to action. Senate to vote on funding for this hair brained sceme this week. See other links below as well. http://capwiz.com/liberty/issues/alert/?alertid=6664601&type=CO

http://www.drlaura.com/action/index.html?mode=view&tile=1&id=8317

This is the first time I've posted a new thread, I hope I din't screw something up.. Thanks Freepers

[c-b 1]

Looks good to me, thanks for the info.

[kingu]

Gee, my senators will be voting against this, or so the office hacks claimed. Then again, I live in California, which means I've got big D's... The local schools have already tried these programs; they don't work for most schools. Might work in the inner cities, until some court decides it's racist. More fodder to push up the national debt.

Mr. President: JUST SAY NO!

[DoughtyOne]

You know, I'm about to the place where I think our elected offials are the ones who need to be screened. If they show any inclination to support bills like this, medicate the f'n hell out of them. Do it for four years if that's what it takes. Good Lord, the lunatics are running the asylum.

[nunya bidness]

Good Lord, the lunatics are running the asylum.

Nothing a little soma won't cure.

[Brad’s Gramma]

Dr. Laura's been talking about (AGAINST!) this for a couple of days now.

Thanks for the thread!

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"I'm about to the place where I think our elected offials are the ones who need to be screened."

And start with this administration...it's their brainchild.

[DoughtyOne]

I don't know anymore. I'm fairly well convinced there isn't a cure.

[nunya bidness]

I don't know anymore. I'm fairly well convinced there isn't a cure.

Sure there is. And you get the added choice of a blue or red pill.

[DoughtyOne]

Imagine every six to nine year old child in the nation being queried as to their mental health. The kid, having a bad day says a few not so proper things, and voyola, he's medicated. His parents may or may not be told. If they are and they object, they will be public enemy number one.

Someone has fed someone a pile of 'sh-t' two miles high, and they not only ate it, they're recommending it to everyone.

This is just assinine to the max.

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"It doesn't have the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for a political purpose; it's the Orwellian goal of drugging the populace for an economic purpose." --

Yes..more of Bush's payoffs to the Drug Cartel in American politics curtesy of taxpayer pockets, just like that supposed "benefit" to Senior citizens that costs them more than the expensive drugs they were paying for.

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The kid, having a bad day says a few not so proper things, and voyola, he's medicated.

I'm concerned about the Leftist maniacs doing the testing. Teachers today, with rare exception are certifiable. Thank God I no longer have school age children.

Parents...you need to make the sacrifice and homeschool your children, even if it means living in a trailer to do it.

[DoughtyOne]

Yeah, but are they going to carry my body off on some beastly looking thing while the oracale waxes rhapsodic about the nature of bliss? Heh heh heh...

Perhaps the best way to win the game is not to play.

[DoughtyOne]

As well you should be. IMO, home schooling is the ONLY way to go. If I had young children again, there isn't one chance out of 7 billion, I'd let them participate in public schooling.

[Hetty_Fauxvert]

I just emailed my senator. I can't believe they thought this was a good idea ... amongst other issues, the kid gets a label of "mentally unfit" which will follow him/her for the rest of his/her life -- making it hard to get insurance, get into some lines of work, etc. Good grief. Just a stupid idea all around.

[HiTech RedNeck]

"New FREEDOM Initiative"? Someone please tell me this was from the Onion.

[RedQuill]

Now I'm suspiscious of gov't powergrabs even when "my guys" are in the majority (like now). But I'd like to get some more info on this bill from a source other than a university "journalist in Boulder writing for a civil liberty fishwrapper before I dig a fallout shelter to defend myself from Pfizer. That said, I wouldn't feel comfortable sending a child into most public schools.

[garandgal]

This is just assinine to the max.

Having participated in a rather lengthy thread about this very issue months ago, I can tell you that the "usual suspects" will be along shortly to defend it.

It's horrifying; and if it was such a fantastic idea, why wasn't it featured in the campaign??

I think we all know that answer to that. I tend to be the type of person to look for the nefarious underlying reason behind ideas, proposals, etc. What is up with this?

[DoughtyOne]

You would have to go and ask 'the question' of the thread wouldn't you.

What is up with this?

In a world where academics must continually convince themselves that they are relevent, there must always be new breaking ground where others have not tread before.  Unfortunately, children have become the focus of the left.  Some think they are simply trying to endear women to their camp with these efforts.  I believe it goes beyond this.  The left wants to control children.  They've not been very secretive how important this is for them.

You can't get much more leftist than Rob Reiner.  Meathead has been convinced by the shrink-wrapped devotees, that children need to be in a regimented government program from two years of age, possible as young as six months.  When hawking a cigarette tax to raise five million dollars to start his new program about five years ago, Reiner made it clear that he wants to prevent parents from screwing up young children's minds before they are handed off to the government schools at the ripe old age of five.

The childcare industry has been swamped by devotees of Dr. Spock.  This should scare the hell out of everyone.  Even Dr. Spock said, "I have raised a generation of idiots.", but the socialists that train and license daycare employees, continue to sell Spock's acknowledged flawded logic.  I mention this, because this wave of protecting the children, perfecting their training and taking the responsibility out of the hands of parents, runs rampant through the infant, primary and secondary education system today.

99% of all books on child rearing discard any form of discipline whatsoever.  As long as Ackmed feels good about himself, all is blissful on the moral relativist front.  You should never say no to your child.  You should never tell your children that there is good and bad in the world.  Good and bad are relative terms.  There is no such thing in the moral relativist's world.  In this culture, just imagine if you should teach your child that homosexuality is even slightly morally negative.  Morality?  That does not compute with these folks.  Sensory overload.  Into this climate emerges fertile ground for complete mind control.  From the earliest stages of self-awareness, these children will subjected to leftist propaganda the levels of which this world has never seen before.

As a parent, not you I or anyone is fit to raise children according to these people.  Only the people who have spent between four and eight years being indoctrinated into the mind-meld of the leftist socialist universities, are capable of seeing what we are not.  Six thousand years of parenting aside, these people are convinced that you are a threat to this nation's future, if you think you are going to influence your chilld's upbringing.

Into this vast moral void, comes the liberal activist in search of a plan to ensure 'progressive' (note, we mustn't acknowledge these are socialist) policies.  What better way to lock in their positioin, than to create a program that society cannot live without?  And what better program, than a program that evaluates each child, so that they are each individually adjusted to the exact degree necessary?

Remember the old days when you'd take your car into a repair shop, and they'd give you a list of things you 'must do' or your car wouldn't be safe.  This is sortof a twisted version of the same thing.  We've got your child up on the rack, and look here.  See the rust.  If you don't fix that it will lead to major problems.  You can either pay a little now, or pay us big time later.  In truth, your kid is just fine.  You know it.  I know it.  Just about everyone knows it.  These folks must make sure the numbers they are helping look big and impressive.

These folks envision a time five to ten years from now when they'll be medicating and continually evaluating tens of millions of children across the United States.  In that envirionment, who could extricate them from education?  That's exactly what they are shooting for.

Someone has gotten to the President and in a well meaning effort, he is evidently intent on signing on to this tripe.  I've been very reticent to play the 'not playing with a full deck card' when referencing Bush, but if he is going to support stuff like this, my avoiding that isn't going to do him a lick of good.  He's his own worst enemy when he supports things like this.  There simply isn't any defense for it if your at all rational.

That's my take.

[HiTech RedNeck]

You can't get much more leftist than Rob Reiner. Meathead has been convinced by the shrink-wrapped devotees, that children need to be in a regimented government program from two years of age, possible as young as six months. When hawking a cigarette tax to raise five million dollars to start his new program about five years ago, Reiner made it clear that he wants to prevent parents from screwing up young children's minds before they are handed off to the government schools at the ripe old age of five.

Meathead should just emigrate to Cuba. He'd be so happy with Fidel's system.