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With Rice At The Helm
WASHINGTON TIMES.COM ^ | NOVEMBER 16, 2004 | JOEL MOWBRAY

Posted on 11/17/2004 7:02:37 PM PST by CHARLITE

In naming Condoleezza Rice as his pick for secretary of state, President Bush is sending his most loyal adviser to his most disloyal agency: The State Department. But no matter what changes she makes -- and many are needed -- the bureaucracy is entrenched almost to the point of being impenetrable, meaning real reform could well prove illusory.

Miss Rice will soon take the reins of a massive 47,000-person operation that is literally sprawled out across the world. It is an insular institution that operates in a remarkably similar way from one administration to the next, typically viewing presidents, as one Foreign Service officer puts it, as the "summer help."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: bureaucracy; condolezzarice; foreignpolicy; georgeschultz; mowbray; presidentbush; secofstate; statedept; unitedstates

1 posted on 11/17/2004 7:02:38 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Is it necessary to excerpt The Washington times?


2 posted on 11/17/2004 7:04:40 PM PST by doc11355
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To: CHARLITE

How about this scenario: Rice does a bang-up job at State, after the 2006 elections, Cheney retires, Rice steps in as VEEP, and sets herself up for Presidential run in 2008. Who better to carry on the Bush legacy?


3 posted on 11/17/2004 7:05:32 PM PST by paul in cape
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To: CHARLITE; Chieftain

Thank God we have Condi Rice now!!!!
She speaks Russian and is an expert there....and fox news just broke the news that Russia has two nuclear weapons that we were not expecting them to have.

So shut the f....k up and just ratify her you morons in the Senate!!!!


4 posted on 11/17/2004 7:09:27 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (MOVE THE UN TO PARIS..NOW!)
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To: paul in cape

good idea!!!!!


5 posted on 11/17/2004 7:10:03 PM PST by camas
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To: CHARLITE

Yea, there are 47,000 people in the State Department and a lot of them do not believe in the sovereignty of their own country. Those kind are a disgrace and out to be thrown out of government service for their disloyalty to the United States. They'll kiss the ass of a foreign tyrant and slap a citizen of their own country and call that "diplomacy."


6 posted on 11/17/2004 7:13:51 PM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: camas

If Not-So-Bright Albright, could do it, so can Condi, and do it much better.


7 posted on 11/17/2004 7:14:45 PM PST by sarasotarepublican (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: CHARLITE
Miss Rice

That's Doctor or Provost Rice to you, ink breath. And soon, Secretary Rice

8 posted on 11/17/2004 7:15:38 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: CHARLITE
Her biggest problem will be identifying all the employees of the State Department who see their primary function as satisfying the wishes of the UN!

Some may even be receiving support from the OIL_FOR_FOOD program!
9 posted on 11/17/2004 7:19:21 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: doc11355

Yep.


10 posted on 11/17/2004 7:20:17 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: CHARLITE

When the communists ran the state Dept it ran rather well.


11 posted on 11/17/2004 7:21:29 PM PST by cynicom (<p)
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To: CHARLITE

Sounds like the Times is worried about their "anonymous officials" at State.


12 posted on 11/17/2004 7:22:52 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: paul in cape
How about this scenario: Rice does a bang-up job at State, after the 2006 elections, Cheney retires, Rice steps in as VEEP, and sets herself up for Presidential run in 2008. Who better to carry on the Bush legacy.

NO ONE would have a better chance to beat Hillary than Condi Rice For President. And she will take away women votes and black votes from the demorats FOREVER!
13 posted on 11/17/2004 7:30:16 PM PST by factmart
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To: CWOJackson

Doctor Rice is so qualified it scares the left to death.
She will have a lasting imprint on the State Department and that is why she is being put there.
The latest Condi bashing from the left in the form of cartoons etc is nothing short of racist


14 posted on 11/17/2004 7:34:07 PM PST by weston
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To: weston

Not just the left...well not just the traditional left. Two days ago pat buchanan was trashing her and her abilities. This from a man who considered Arafat a great man. Some people still believe he's conservative.


15 posted on 11/17/2004 7:36:56 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: paul in cape

At Sec State Condi will be well up the succession ladder. VP Cheney, Speaker of House Hastert, Pres. pro tempore of Senate (?Warner). Isn't Sec State next on the list?


16 posted on 11/17/2004 7:41:11 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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To: CWOJackson

Pat hates Bush, so no surprise.
Pat Buchanen has been a huge disappointment


17 posted on 11/17/2004 7:47:18 PM PST by weston
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To: CHARLITE

I would like to see Newt Gingrich as Condi's Admin Assistant. Newt did agreat indepth study of the Foggybottom and their was alsoa lady, who's name escapes me at the moment that sat on the panel with him. I believe she was with some think tank.

With Newt and the Mystery Lady !! as the Admin Assistants, working with Condi, they could really do some attitude checks at the old Foggybottom and get rid of a lot of the liberal croakers.

This would also allow Condi to concentrate on the Foreign Policy knowing her back was covered. Knowing the changes at Foggybottom for the projection of the President's foreign policy were being made. That would be a great team I think.


18 posted on 11/17/2004 8:20:18 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: JohnBovenmyer

Order of Presidential Succession

According to the Presidential Succession Act of 1792, the Senate president pro tempore1 was next in line after the vice president to succeed to the presidency, followed by the Speaker of the House.

In 1886, however, Congress changed the order of presidential succession, replacing the president pro tempore and the Speaker with the cabinet officers. Proponents of this change argued that the congressional leaders lacked executive experience, and none had served as president, while six former secretaries of state had later been elected to that office.

The Presidential Succession Act of 1947, signed by President Harry Truman, changed the order again to what it is today. The cabinet members are ordered in the line of succession according to the date their offices were established.

Prior to the ratification of the 25th Amendment in 1967, there was no provision for filling a vacancy in the vice presidency. When a president died in office, the vice president succeeded him, and the vice presidency then remained vacant. The first vice president to take office under the new procedure was Gerald Ford, who was nominated by Nixon on Oct. 12, 1973, and confirmed by Congress the following Dec. 6.

NOTE: An official cannot succeed to the Presidency unless that person meets the Constitutional requirements.
1. The president pro tempore presides over the Senate when the vice president is absent. By tradition the position is held by the senior member of the majority party.
2. May move to number 8 on the list pending legislation.

See also:


19 posted on 11/17/2004 10:06:18 PM PST by ThePythonicCow (Welcome home, Vietnam Vets.)
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To: CHARLITE

...typical of those it produces... sKerry's father was a career State Dept employee, and was a socialist who indoctrinated his son to his views.

John F sKerry's views mirror those of the majority at State.


20 posted on 11/18/2004 8:02:43 AM PST by oldngray
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