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Rumsfeld, Hostettler Warn US Borders at Risk toTerrorism
CNN.com/Lou Dobbs Tonight ^ | Nov. 16, 2004 | Lou Dobbs

Posted on 11/16/2004 10:40:03 PM PST by AuntB

DOBBS: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is warning of the threat of terrorists entering this country through the same routes as those used by illegal aliens. Secretary Rumsfeld, traveling in South America, warned that enemies look for weaknesses and take advantage of them.

DONALD RUMSFELD: The risk is that some of these human-smuggling routes into our country from this hemisphere could be used just as easily for terrorists. ~snip~

REP. JOHN HOSTETTLER (R-IN), CHAIRMAN, SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION AND BORDER SECURITY: : Well, the House will not be taking up in a positive sense guest worker legislation. We know that this is a priority for some in Washington. It is not a priority for the House of Representatives. In fact, those of us in the House that deal closely with the immigration issue believe that we need to go the other way. And that is look at the issue of enforcement and strong enforcement of our immigration laws in order to keep not only more millions of illegal aliens out, but to do something about the 10 plus million that are here now.

HOSTETTLER: Oh, well, this is something that we have been concerned about for years. It is an issue that, as we look at the number of individuals crossing the southern border, referred to as OTMs, or other than Mexicans, that number is rising drastically, because others in the world realize that our southern border is porous. Our men and women in uniform and the Border Patrol are doing everything they can and then some to enforce and strengthen the border. There are just not enough of them. And this is something that there may be some disconnect within the administration..~snip~

(Excerpt) Read more at transcripts.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: activism; aliens; az; bordersecurity; breaking; bushamnesty; ca; canada; crime; culture; enforcement; foreign; immigrantlist; immigration; laws; mexico; news; rumsfeld; tx
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Secretary Rumsfeld also said the United States has to be, as he put it, smarter and quicker in securing our borders. The federal government's failure to secure those borders is leading individual states to take action. Arizona's Proposition 200, which limits state benefits for illegals, passed overwhelmingly two weeks ago. Now at least half a dozen other states are considering similar measures.
1 posted on 11/16/2004 10:40:04 PM PST by AuntB
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To: AuntB

God bless you Rummy...slap some sense into the idiots in D.C.!


2 posted on 11/16/2004 10:44:29 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: B4Ranch; blackie; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Joe Hadenuf; FITZ; Issaquahking; MissAmericanPie; ...

The initiative's founder says he's encouraged by Arizona's election results, a 12-point victory for Proposition 200.

MIKE SPENCE, PRESIDENT, CALIFORNIA REPUBLICAN ASSEMBLY: The elites in Arizona, you know, of both parties opposed Proposition 200, and yet the people still voted for it. I think we're going to have that same situation here in California.

CASEY WIAN, CNN: From ballot initiatives to petition drives, seven states are now considering limits on illegal alien benefits. Many are motivated by the failure of the federal government to control illegal immigration.

www.cnn.com/lou


3 posted on 11/16/2004 10:45:24 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: gubamyster; B4Ranch; NewRomeTacitus; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; Happy2BMe; EternalVigilance

Rumsfeld, Borders and Terrorism (((PING)))


4 posted on 11/16/2004 10:46:52 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: AuntB

Talk is cheap, we need immediate action...


5 posted on 11/16/2004 10:47:54 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: AuntB

"And this is something that there may be some disconnect within the administration..~"

Ya think? LOL Cheap labor for donors is more important than citizen safety..that's obvious. This President can talk and talk, but until he stops the border running, we simply are not safe. Period. I shudder to think how many are already in here because he refuses to close the borders to illegal traffic.


6 posted on 11/16/2004 10:51:23 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: AuntB

I Have been yelling about this till I'm RED in the FACE!!

Take the Class Fence 101 at the Jewish University in Isreal!!


7 posted on 11/16/2004 10:51:29 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Jack Black; Calpernia; janetgreen; DoughtyOne

www.cnn.com/lou

QUICK VOTE

Would you support legislation similar to Proposition 200 in your state?

Yes 79% 1667 votes

No 21% 445 votes

Total: 2112 votes


8 posted on 11/16/2004 10:51:35 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: AuntB
They're concerned about what they already knew, since local news media aren't being silent any more. See "Investigators: Terrorist Alley", several relevant articles and videos

http://www.kvoa.com/Global/category.asp?C=46414&nav=J7Nm:

9 posted on 11/16/2004 10:51:50 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: ApesForEvolution

Thanks, Apes, I didn't have the ping list.


10 posted on 11/16/2004 10:52:18 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: AuntB

I just threw some FReepers together off the top of my head...thanks for the article AuntB.


11 posted on 11/16/2004 10:53:35 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: AuntB

Yoo Hoo! Don? They're already here. Been here for years.


12 posted on 11/16/2004 10:54:57 PM PST by Bonaparte (twisting slowly, slowly in the wind...)
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To: FlyVet; ETERNAL WARMING

I'm stuck with CNN...anybody see Rumsfeld mention this on any other outlet? Just curious...

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DOBBS: And three million illegal aliens are estimated to be entering this country this year.

Secretary Rumsfeld also said the United States has to be, as he put it, smarter and quicker in securing our borders. The federal government's failure to secure those borders is leading individual states to take action. Arizona's Proposition 200, which limits state benefits for illegals, passed overwhelmingly two weeks ago. Now at least half a dozen other states are considering similar measures."


13 posted on 11/16/2004 10:56:19 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: AuntB

Could American politicians be waking up? Amazing!!


14 posted on 11/16/2004 10:57:07 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: FlyVet

Local news hasn't been quiet for years about a lot of it. Though often they fail to report that arrestees are illegal. As in the following article, I read 6 reports and this was the only one that mentioned it. I'd call this scum a terrorist...just isn't Arab, but this type could sure be recruited.


http://www.democratherald.com/articles/2003/04/09/news/oregon/state03.prt
Last modified Wednesday, April 9, 2003 1:42 PM PDT

Esparza pleads guilty to killing nun


KLAMATH FALLS (AP) - Maximiliano Silerio Esparza pleaded guilty Tuesday to charges that he raped two nuns and killed one of them as they walked and prayed on a bike path last September.
Esparza, 33, was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the murder of Sister Helen Lynn Chaska, 53. He got another 10 years for the attempted murder of the surviving nun, and 15 years for raping the women.

In return for his guilty plea, Esparza avoided a possible death sentence.
In a statement, Edwin Caleb, the Klamath County district attorney, said he offered the plea for several reasons, including the surviving nun's religious convictions. Caleb said he didn't want to force the nun to testify.
"The most obvious reason is the certainty that this monster will be in jail for the rest of his life and never get the opportunity to offend again," he said.
Police say Esparza rode a train from Portland to Klamath Falls about a week before the attack. He visited a strip bar and then attacked the nuns early on a Sunday morning as they prayed on the downtown bike path.
Esparza head-butted one of the nuns, then raped them both while controlling them with the rosary beads around their necks, police said.
Chaska - who went by the name Sister Helena Maria - was strangled by her own beads, according to an autopsy. She was a nun with the Bellevue, Wash., Immaculate Heart of Mary, a small order unaffiliated with the Roman Catholic Church.
Several months before the attack, Esparza was detained and let go by U.S. Border Patrol agents in New Mexico even though he had spent three years in California prisons and had once been deported.
The agents did turn up an old drug charge in Oregon, but Multnomah County passed on extraditing him. The warrant was apparently the only evidence of Esparza's criminal past that surfaced during the checks.
Once Oregon declined to extradite, Esparza was treated like any other undocumented Mexican and was dropped off at the border.




Copyright © 2004 Democrat-Herald


15 posted on 11/16/2004 11:01:31 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: Robert Drobot; Brad's Gramma; Republic; Jeff Head; Willie Green

"Secretary Rumsfeld also said the United States has to be, as he put it, smarter and quicker in securing our borders. The federal government's failure to secure those borders is leading individual states to take action. Arizona's Proposition 200, which limits state benefits for illegals, passed overwhelmingly two weeks ago. Now at least half a dozen other states are considering similar measures."

www.cnn.com/lou/transcripts


16 posted on 11/16/2004 11:03:46 PM PST by AuntB (Most provisional ballots are from voters not eligible to vote!!! Ask a poll worker!)
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To: AuntB
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is warning of the threat of terrorists entering this country through the same routes as those used by illegal aliens.

Rumsfeld must be some kind of racist.

Where's bayufraud?

17 posted on 11/16/2004 11:05:41 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: AuntB
"He visited a strip bar and then attacked the nuns early on a Sunday morning as they prayed on the downtown bike path."

(whistling) No correlation here, nope, not at all. (whistling and walking away)
18 posted on 11/16/2004 11:06:05 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: Joe Hadenuf; bayourod

Let's ping the rod, shall we?


19 posted on 11/16/2004 11:06:57 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: janetgreen
Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is warning of the threat of terrorists entering this country through the same routes as those used by illegal aliens.

How is this possible janet? Boy, these guys are on the cutting edge.

20 posted on 11/16/2004 11:07:01 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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