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Wounded Of Fallujah Are Pressed To Inform
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 11-16-2004 | Toby Harnden

Posted on 11/15/2004 6:25:56 PM PST by blam

Wounded of Fallujah are pressed to inform

By Toby Harnden in Fallujah
(Filed: 16/11/2004)

The new patients at the field aid station screamed out in agony as they were gently laid on stretchers. Fresh from the battlefield, flies swarmed around their infected wounds. US army medics barked out orders beside the makeshift triage beds.

But the four men being treated were not American soldiers. Blindfolded, stripped to the waist, the tags tied to their stretchers identified them as "EPWs" - enemy prisoners of war.

Disorientated and perhaps bewildered, they were surrounded by doctors and US interrogators with their translators, seeking to gain intelligence that might be of use in the battle for Fallujah.

The four were all foreigners - three Jordanians and a Sudanese. "These were the guys shooting RPGs [Rocket Propelled Grenades] at us," said a burly military intelligence NCO.

"They came out of their holes and just surrendered. We can't get any straight stories. They all say they came to work."

This was the same field aid station where a mortally injured lieutenant had been brought just 24 hours before. Suffering from a direct hit to the abdomen with an RPG, he died shortly after being evacuated to the Bravo Surgical hospital at Camp Fallujah.

Prisoner 14/3 cried out as his shattered left leg was bandaged. It had been broken several days earlier and doctors said it might have to be amputated.

He said his name was Abbas Yousef, an 18-year-old Jordanian. "I was brought to Baghdad in a truck to work in a hotel," he said when asked why he had been fighting the Americans.

"The mujahadin asked me what I was doing here. They forced me to fight. They wouldn't let me call anyone for help. I wanted to go back Jordan." He said a "man from Tunis" had been in charge of him. "I was paid $100 a month and given food and supplies."

Asked about Omar Hadid, an alleged leader of foreign fighters in the city, he at first said that he was dead, then changed his story. "What do you want? I can help you. I will tell you everything you want. I can get you any information you want."

Prisoner 14/5's story was equally incoherent. Suffering from a gun shot wound to the shoulder, he said he was Mohammed Khalid, a Sudanese who had been living in Saudi Arabia.

"I know nothing about Iraq," he shouted as a medic pressed a dressing on his arm. He came to work in a petrol station, he insisted. Between moans he said he was in Fallujah to find work but had been stranded when his money and passport had been stolen. "They're all liars," said the military intelligence NCO.

Lt Gregory McCrum, the Task Force 2-2 medical officer, said treating prisoners showed US forces had "a higher moral compass" than the insurgents. In addition, fighters could provide valuable intelligence if captured rather than killed.

"I have a sense of animosity against these individuals due to the fact they've taken up arms against us. But by the same token it's important to get them better so they can contribute information that might be able to save the life of an American."

Beside the aid station, battle-weary Task Force 2-2 soldiers debated whether prisoners should be helped. "They made a mistake not shooting those guys," said one.

"We can't do that, dude," another said angrily. "That would make us barbarians. We're Americans. They'll go to Guantanamo and have a nice stay at our facility there."

•The Black Watch could be returning home earlier than expected as the American assault on Fallujah winds down.

The 850-man battle group will take a week to withdraw to before they can be flown back to their headquarters in Warminister, Wilts.

The Black Watch weren't scheduled to leave until Dec 3 when a 30-day mission to secure the rear of the US advance comes to an end.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fallujah; inform; iraq; pressed; wounded
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1 posted on 11/15/2004 6:25:56 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

This article will be found in section D, page 42 just below an ad for condoms in tomorrow's obsolete media (newspapers).


2 posted on 11/15/2004 6:28:54 PM PST by Rokke
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To: blam
Wounded of Fallujah are pressed to inform

Well boo frikkin' hoo.

3 posted on 11/15/2004 6:30:17 PM PST by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: blam

Get a scopalamine drip, stat!


4 posted on 11/15/2004 6:31:54 PM PST by Army Air Corps (The battle cry of the Pajamahadeen: "FR akbar!")
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To: blam

Hmmmm, why not announce to the press that the interogated prisoners had told the US everything that was needed to know; then release the prisioners to go on their merry way.

I'm sure their 'patriots in arms' would do things that we can only begin to imagine.


5 posted on 11/15/2004 6:34:29 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: Army Air Corps
Get a scopalamine drip, stat!

Forget that. Get a brand new Sears Die Hard, some jumper cables and a bucket of water.

6 posted on 11/15/2004 6:35:39 PM PST by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: blam
Just as an aside, this occurred in what some of us would call a MASH hospital, used during Korea and Vietnam. Invented for the Army by Michael DeBakey, one of those stupid red staters and now one of the premier heart doctors in America.
7 posted on 11/15/2004 6:37:10 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (May God Bless the President)
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To: blam
"They're all liars," said the military intelligence NCO.

It's a "cultural" thing, like Arab TV.

8 posted on 11/15/2004 6:37:40 PM PST by Mister Baredog ((DO IT NOW, if you haven't put up a flag on your FR homepage yet,PLEASE))
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To: blam

The Geneva convention doesn't apply to foreign fighters does it?


9 posted on 11/15/2004 6:38:10 PM PST by freakboy
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Forget that. Get a brand new Sears Die Hard, some jumper cables and a bucket of water.

Right you are !!
10 posted on 11/15/2004 6:41:44 PM PST by indexpatient (Thank you for flushing the johns Nov. 2 they were full of s@#$)
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To: Army Air Corps
Get a scopalamine drip, stat!

Scop costs money.

Just twist the ends of the broken bones-works just as well, and it's free.

11 posted on 11/15/2004 6:43:29 PM PST by Jim Noble (FR Iraq policy debate begins 11/3/04. Pass the word.)
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To: blam

I am just sure that Fallujah is a mecca for unemployed young Arab men who want jobs as hotel workers (oh, that tourist trade is a boomin'!) and gas station attendants.


12 posted on 11/15/2004 6:48:05 PM PST by GretchenM
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To: indexpatient

Don't forget the telephone windup box.


13 posted on 11/15/2004 6:49:20 PM PST by NY Attitude
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To: Jim Noble

You are sick and twisted - I like that in a person!

I wonder if anyone has given thought to sprinkling lye or alum in the wounds. Also, a proctology exam with a 20,000 cattle prod might open some mouths...


14 posted on 11/15/2004 6:53:48 PM PST by Army Air Corps (The battle cry of the Pajamahadeen: "FR akbar!")
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To: Jim Noble

Boiling bacon grease poured in wounds is supposed to be a pretty powerful truth serum for Muslims, not that I'm advocating it, mind you . . .


15 posted on 11/15/2004 6:54:57 PM PST by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: blam

Oh hell.


16 posted on 11/15/2004 6:57:02 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree; Army Air Corps

Heck, I thought all we had to get was some Fruit of the Loom.


17 posted on 11/15/2004 6:57:16 PM PST by eyespysomething (12 days out, and the Dems still don't get it.)
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To: blam
"...taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power"

Hey, send John Kerry over there! He's an expert at this since he saw so much of it in 'Nam!

19 posted on 11/15/2004 6:59:20 PM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: indexpatient

It'd be good to have some salt for the water - much better conduction.


20 posted on 11/15/2004 7:00:11 PM PST by Paladin2 (SeeBS News - We Decide, We Create, We Report - In that order! - ABC - Already Been Caught)
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