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Silenced priest warns of gay crisis
Washington Times ^ | November 15, 2004 | Julia Duin

Posted on 11/15/2004 5:28:41 AM PST by A. Pole

Starting today, 290 of the nation's Catholic bishops will meet at the Capitol Hyatt for their yearly business meeting[...]

Although it's been less than a year since the church revealed that there were 10,667 cases of abuse committed by 4,392 priests in a 50-year period, the message at the meeting will be that the crisis is under control.

But it's far from over, says a local Catholic priest who says the true source of the crisis is a priesthood that is "honeycombed" with homosexual clerics, especially in the Diocese of Arlington.

However, attempts by the Rev. James Haley, 48, to persuade his bishop of the problem have backfired. After hearing from the priest about numerous instances of homosexual activity among diocesan clergy, Arlington Bishop Paul Loverde ordered the priest silenced Oct. 23, 2001. This "precept of silence" — usually only employed during church trial proceedings — is rarely used to silence a whistleblower.

Thus, in the past three years, Father Haley's case, which also involves accusations of sexual misconduct against him, has become a cause celebre among many Catholics in the Diocese of Arlington.

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Father Haley says his only crime is his insistence that homosexual priests, not solely pedophiles, are at the root of the sexual-abuse crisis. The Catholic priesthood is demoralized, he says, by groups of homosexual clerics who control who gets admitted to seminary, which men get nominated for bishop and which priests get the plum parishes.

Based on his 17 years in the priesthood, he estimates that 60 percent of the Diocese of Arlington's 127 diocesan priests are homosexuals, which is high compared with national estimates of 30 percent to 50 percent from other authorities on the priesthood. [...]

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


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KEYWORDS: church; gay; homosexual; homosexuality; homosexualpriests; priests
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To: A. Pole
Goodbye, Good Men
41 posted on 11/15/2004 12:26:04 PM PST by SC DOC
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To: Noachian

Late to the thread on my part, but there are most definitely homosexuals in nun circles. There are some extremely pious and devout orders, but others are WAY WAY out there....

This is a top-to-bottom problem. It's the fruit of "tolerance" gone FUBAR.


42 posted on 11/15/2004 12:47:26 PM PST by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: Noachian

There was a book out several years ago called "Lesbian Nuns" in which current and former nuns discussed the reasons for going into the convent (felt more comfortable around only women) and their introduction to lesbianism by other nuns. Scary book!


43 posted on 11/15/2004 1:13:54 PM PST by reaganaut (Red state girl in a Blue state world (Socialist Republic of California))
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To: Eepsy
Also, psychologists got into the seminaries starting in the sixties and started to push out candidates who actually had a commitment to celibacy

Interesting point!

44 posted on 11/15/2004 6:17:39 PM PST by A. Pole (Col.Guano: I think General Ripper found out about your preversion, and your [...]mutiny of preverts.)
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To: Savage Beast
As part of the soul-searching--so to speak--maybe it's time to rethink the practice of celibacy.

Episcopalian priests can be married. Still the promotion of pederasty became the core of Episcopalian doctrine.

45 posted on 11/15/2004 6:22:25 PM PST by A. Pole (Col.Guano: I think General Ripper found out about your preversion, and your [...]mutiny of preverts.)
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To: A. Pole

A FUDGE PACKER CRISIS????? Perish the thought!


46 posted on 11/15/2004 6:49:51 PM PST by winker
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To: Robert Drobot
There are Bishops who are quietly making changes at the Seminaries in which their priests are training. They are not announcing these changes, probably since most regular Catholics didn't know anything was different from the 50's and 60's, so why make a big deal of it?

The liberal feminist nuns are retiring and dying out; their orders are not getting new vocations, so there are fewer of them to sit on Boards of Review to winnow out faithful Catholic young men who wanted to be priests, but whose 'outmoded ideas', like celibacy, and devotions, didn't fit their modernist agenda. I know of one Seminary in the South that had gotten so bad that the new younger Bishop wouldn't even send his candidates there until he'd had a chance to make some changes.

Unless the Bishops demand change, the Seminaries won't change.

47 posted on 11/15/2004 6:56:45 PM PST by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we are Americans!!!!)
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To: A. Pole
[ Although it's been less than a year since the church revealed that there were 10,667 cases of abuse committed by 4,392 priests in a 50-year period, the message at the meeting will be that the crisis is under control. ]

And thats the ones that know about..
Wonder why the rest of the world has no known queer priesthood problems.. are they ALL here. in the U.S.?..

48 posted on 11/15/2004 7:06:54 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: SuziQ; Canticle_of_Deborah; Land of the Irish; ultima ratio; Maximilian; Viva Christo Rey; ...
To: SuziQ All Others: FYI Unless the Bishops demand change, the Seminaries won't change.

It is this fact that is so distressing.

Well advised of the abominations permitted and encouraged to drive aways men who would otherwise become holy priests, the Vatican pretends to address puff and fluff fanfare.

In point of fact, degenerate sodomite dementia continues its evil grip on the Roman Catholic Church in America, while a Pope in Rome remains focused on the single greatest priority of his pontificate - his image.

This wannabe actor has dedicated his reign to achieve one totally consuming narcissistic indulgence - celebrity - using a public embrace of pagans, heretics, his benign ecumenical encouragement of false worship on consecrated ground, and his notorious association with one of the greatest murdering terrorist muslims in human history, Mohammed Abdel Rahman Abdel Raouf Arafat Al Qudua Al Husseini, aka: Yasser Arafat.

This is the real reason American bishops - and bishops throughout the world - are running amuck, doing whatever they damn well please, AND saying what they damn well please.

It's a Roman Catholic version of the Charlie Manson 'family', with 'christian' warlocks from hell gleefully desecrating the Holy Eucharist, Sacred Dogma and Latin Tradition. Embracing sodomites, lesbians, murder of the unborn, and denial of the Resurrection are hallmark of the ecumenical 'we all pray to the same god' new church.

49 posted on 11/16/2004 3:18:17 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Robert Drobot

Excuse my poor writing. The subject puts me on a short fuse.


50 posted on 11/16/2004 3:21:38 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: FrankWild
We Traditionalists are actually helped by this decline.

The Latin Roman Catholic Church remains the One True Faith residing within His Most Sacred Heart. It is both the holy receptacle and defender of His Sacred Dogma, forever and ever.

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

52 posted on 11/16/2004 6:08:14 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Robert Drobot
In point of fact, degenerate sodomite dementia continues its evil grip on the Roman Catholic Church in America, while a Pope in Rome remains focused on the single greatest priority of his pontificate - his image.

I believe you couldn't be more wrong about the Pope. And there is not an evil grip by homosexuals on the entire Roman Catholic Church in America. There are some Seminaries who went over the falls, but are now being pulled back back by new Bishops. Many Bishops, in the late 60s and the 70s were enthralled by the new 'Spirit of Vatican II", and allowed the liberals in their Dioceses to go too far. In this climate, and in the spirit of diversity, they also allowed feminists to have a say in who became priests. This allowed some homosexuals to get into the priesthood, but they are not the majority of all priests in this country. I don't believe I've ever known a priest who was homosexual, or even seemed to be, and I've known quite a few priests having lived in five different states and attended at least 8 different parishes in various towns within them.

53 posted on 11/16/2004 7:16:43 AM PST by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we are Americans!!!!)
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To: SuziQ

You impress me as being very sincere, and I want to thank you for your comments.


54 posted on 11/16/2004 7:22:44 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: SuziQ
> I believe you couldn't be more wrong about the Pope

Robert Drobot has it exactly right. Here's a website that will tell you everything you need to know about the current pope and his ecumaniacal new religion:
http://www.novusordowatch.org/archive.htm

55 posted on 11/17/2004 7:45:26 PM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: 2banana
And only 3-5% of the population is gay - so why are gays targeting the priesthood? Easy pickings? Easy access to boys? A safe place in which to control?

Remember the Village People? "In the Navy", "YMCA" ... the construction worker? The cop?

They go where the MEN (males) are. Priests are males with very little female interaction.

56 posted on 11/17/2004 7:48:52 PM PST by BunnySlippers (George W. Bush is our president ... Get over it!)
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