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The C.I.A. Versus Bush
NY Times ^ | November 13, 2004 | David Brooks

Posted on 11/12/2004 11:50:15 PM PST by Dick Holmes

The C.I.A. Versus Bush

By DAVID BROOKS

Now that he's been returned to office, President Bush is going to have to differentiate between his opponents and his enemies. His opponents are found in the Democratic Party. His enemies are in certain offices of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Over the past several months, as much of official Washington looked on wide-eyed and agog, many in the C.I.A. bureaucracy have waged an unabashed effort to undermine the current administration.

At the height of the campaign, C.I.A. officials, who are supposed to serve the president and stay out of politics and policy, served up leak after leak to discredit the president's Iraq policy. There were leaks of prewar intelligence estimates, leaks of interagency memos. In mid-September, somebody leaked a C.I.A. report predicting a gloomy or apocalyptic future for the region. Later that month, a senior C.I.A. official, Paul Pillar, reportedly made comments saying he had long felt the decision to go to war would heighten anti-American animosity in the Arab world.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cia; civilwar; davidbrooks; goss; reform; scheuer
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Heads will roll.
1 posted on 11/12/2004 11:50:16 PM PST by Dick Holmes
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To: Dick Holmes

The NY Times let this article go to print?!

2 posted on 11/12/2004 11:52:02 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Dick Holmes
His opponents are found in the Democratic Party. His enemies are in certain offices of the Central Intelligence Agency.

No, they are one in the same.

3 posted on 11/12/2004 11:52:25 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: Dick Holmes

Oh, nevermind...it's their normal Saturday good news for Bush is buried here article...

4 posted on 11/12/2004 11:52:42 PM PST by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
The NY Times let this article go to print?!

Yeah, they let Brooks and Safire have a little space on the op ed page, as camouflage for the prostrate left-leaning posture of the rest!

5 posted on 11/12/2004 11:55:39 PM PST by Dick Holmes
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To: Dick Holmes

Simple solution...make Gen. Tommy Franks the new director.


6 posted on 11/12/2004 11:58:01 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: Dick Holmes

NY Times wrote this? Shazaam.


7 posted on 11/13/2004 12:04:05 AM PST by sully777 (Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
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To: sully777

This is sickening and infuriating. At a time when this nation is under attack by vicious terrorists the information outlined by NYT is treasonous.

President Bush should summarily terminate people from the agency in droves.

We heard all that Jersey Girl 911 committee craptrapola for months and we heard all that Abu Ghraib trash. It's now time to hear more about the treason within the CIA and decimate the organization.

It's now obvious that Valerie Plame was part of the political groups out to destroy the administration.


8 posted on 11/13/2004 12:08:51 AM PST by putupjob
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To: Dick Holmes
Heads will roll.

Heads are rolling

9 posted on 11/13/2004 12:11:23 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Allan; Shermy

Ping.


10 posted on 11/13/2004 12:16:00 AM PST by Mitchell
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To: okie01

One of Bush's biggest mistakes was keeping Clinton's CIA director around for so long. Enemy Within...


11 posted on 11/13/2004 12:17:45 AM PST by ambrose
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To: Dick Holmes

Time to clean out another nest of domestic institutional leftists.


12 posted on 11/13/2004 12:26:24 AM PST by clee1 (Islam is a deadly plague; liberalism is the AIDS virus that prevents us from defending ourselves.)
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To: ambrose

Yes, this is going to be one of the greatest dividends of his victory. FINALLY we may see a weeding out of the Clinton slime that managed to cling to their jobs.

Boy have they disgraced themselves in this past election!


13 posted on 11/13/2004 12:28:12 AM PST by EaglesUpForever
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To: ambrose
One of Bush's biggest mistakes was keeping Clinton's CIA director around for so long. Enemy Within...

As it develops, I believe the rot goes much deeper than merely the Director. There's probably a whole level of management that needs to be vaporized.

That's not to say that having his own man at CIA from the outset wouldn't have been a good idea. The housecleaning could've started much earlier, then.

Interesting that, in the link, the WaPo was able to get the story leaked thru three different sources. Proves the need , and illuminates the targets for, the personnel manager with the attache case full of grenades. Just go office (BOOM) to office (BOOM)...

Here's hoping Goss is that brutal.

14 posted on 11/13/2004 12:35:10 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Dick Holmes
The Clinton legacy. I swear the whole government is infiltrated with subversives from the 60's.
15 posted on 11/13/2004 12:53:11 AM PST by John Lenin
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To: okie01

Thanks for the link.

Lots of fun.


16 posted on 11/13/2004 12:53:25 AM PST by patriciaruth (They are all Mike Spanns)
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To: ambrose

"One of Bush's biggest mistakes was keeping Clinton's CIA director around for so long."

Yes, especially when 9/11 gave him such a good reason to get rid of him.

Well, one thing I read Bush quoted as saying was that he was surprised at what a mean, partisan town DC was, that he hadn't really expected that.

Maybe this time he takes the gloves off, unfortunately he seems determined to use his political capital to put Spector in the chairman's seat at Judiciary and to have an amnesty for illegals. I would suggest he thinks long and hard about both those things if he cares about "party building".


17 posted on 11/13/2004 1:01:14 AM PST by jocon307 (Maintain the mandate!)
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To: Dick Holmes
The CIA bet on Kerry wining but that was still a bad bet. If Bush won heads would have to roll. On the other hand if Kerry won heads would need to roll as well. If they were successful in helping elect Kerry there is no reason they can't turn on him as well with one success under their belt. The only thing Kerry would have is a little more time to stomp out the mutiny. He'd probably have a little more flexibility in cutting off the head of the snake. Of course that assumes that he and his administration aren't totally incompetent.
18 posted on 11/13/2004 1:07:05 AM PST by airedale ( XZ)
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To: clee1

Foggy Bottom has that reputation too. Colin Powell notwithstanding, will serve if his opinion is valued, leans more left than right from my point of view. So does Pres. Bush need a left leaner in some cabinet posts in order to be balanced?


19 posted on 11/13/2004 1:46:28 AM PST by carumba
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To: carumba; All

Ah, yes. Our wonderful CIA ....

I'd encourage anybody to read Robert Baer's two books. He was the last Arab speaking agent in the Middle East, before he was pulled back to Washington for politically correct reasons.

In his first book "See No Evil", he gives a lucid and concise account of how the CIA was gutted in the Clinton era.

It seems that the guys and gals LEFT in the CIA were mostly the politically correct agents and chiefs.

Folks, these people have spent the last 10-15 years of so sitting around the beltway, sipping latte and playing computer games with high tech equipment. OH, and yes ... coming to conclusions based on LOGICAL DEDUCTION as opposed to honest real life data.

While I don't really BLAME anyone for 9/11 except murdering Islamofascists ... you know, it WAS the CIA's job to warn and prevent things like that.

It's no surprise that the bureau chiefs left after the Clintonista purge are liberal weenies.

Fortunately, the armed forces special agents, and our FBI seem to have taken up the slack.

I WAS hoping that things at the CIA were shaken down after 9/11. They're overdue ...


20 posted on 11/13/2004 3:31:28 AM PST by Tilly (I'm not paid to be stressed!!!)
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