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Operation Phantom Fury ~~~ Day 2 ~~~ Live thread
Various News Sources and Freepers | Nov 9 2004 | All of us

Posted on 11/09/2004 3:11:25 AM PST by Dog

This will be todays thread. Media is in full handwringing mode over some Iraqi unit showing up for the fight.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: fallujah; iraq
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To: insider_uk

They are terrorists not "insurgents." They are not objecting to the occupation of their country, because its not their country. First, most of the terrorists we are fighting now are not from Iraq - we killed quite of few of the local terrorists over the past year. Second, the country belongs to Iraq not the Muslim terrorists seeking to obtain control. Third, it is Iraq troops, under the control of the Iraq goverment that are attacking the terrorists - with the assistance of other countries. Thus, your main premise implying they are defending their country from foreign invasion is false and misleading.


81 posted on 11/09/2004 6:28:58 AM PST by Abogado
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To: Dog
Dog of War
82 posted on 11/09/2004 6:29:03 AM PST by day10 (Rules cannot substitute for character.)
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To: mewzilla

We have the hospital so there won't be any lies coming out about civilian casualties. That was a very smart move.


83 posted on 11/09/2004 6:29:41 AM PST by tiki (Won one against the Flipper)
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To: tiki

Indeed it was.


84 posted on 11/09/2004 6:31:09 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Dog
So over 090% of the Iraqis did NOT desert?!

The media isnt mentioning that all important tidbit much.

85 posted on 11/09/2004 6:34:13 AM PST by No Blue States ("May they go to hell!" the soldiers shouted, and Allawi replied: "To hell they will go.")
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To: insider_uk
But, to brand them all as terrorists, when they are clearly not, is wrong IMHO.

I agree, let's just call them dead.

Jammer
86 posted on 11/09/2004 6:43:54 AM PST by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: prairiebreeze
From your Belmont link:

"I got myself a real juicy target," shouted Sgt James Anyett, peering through the thermal sight of a Long Range Acquisition System (LRAS) mounted on one of Phantom's Humvees. "Prepare to copy that 89089226. Direction 202 degrees. Range 950 metres. I got five motherf****** in a building with weapons." A dozen loud booms rattle the sky and smoke rose as mortars rained down on the co-ordinates the sergeant had given. "Yeah," he yelled. "Battle Damage Assessment - nothing. Building's gone. I got my kills, I'm coming down. I just love my job."

These guys are into it. After having been held back and occasionally picked off by eids etc, they finally get to open a can and their enemies are paying the fiddler.

87 posted on 11/09/2004 6:45:42 AM PST by No Blue States ("May they go to hell!" the soldiers shouted, and Allawi replied: "To hell they will go.")
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To: MEG33
Very well said, Terrorists they are.


88 posted on 11/09/2004 6:49:09 AM PST by No Blue States ("May they go to hell!" the soldiers shouted, and Allawi replied: "To hell they will go.")
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To: hershey

I think it was a Kiowa...the pilot was able to land and is safe....if you hear differently, let me know.


89 posted on 11/09/2004 6:52:41 AM PST by mystery-ak (This military family thanks America for re-electing our CinC)
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To: insider_uk
They are rising in revolt against established authority.

Led by a Jordanian (actually, Palestinian) terrorist aligned with Osama Bin Laden?

Forces made up of as much as 30% foreigners?

I don't think they are either insurgents or resistance. I think you need to rethink your support for giving them some sort of noble appellation.

90 posted on 11/09/2004 7:04:19 AM PST by HiJinx (Support Our Troops ~ www.ProudPatriots.com)
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To: GOP_Proud
"I'm tired of the word "insurgents". They are "terrorists". It can't be prettied-up."

INSURGENT = 1 : a person who revolts against civil authority or an established government; especially : a rebel not recognized as a belligerent 2 : one who acts contrary to the policies and decisions of one's own political party

TERRORIST = 1 : the unlawful use or threat of violence esp. against the state or the public as a politically motivated means of attack or coercion 2 : violent and intimidating gang activity —ter·ror·ist / lower than cockroaches.

91 posted on 11/09/2004 7:04:20 AM PST by Gucho
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To: Dog

Greg Palcott (FoxNews embed) said last nite in Fallujah was 'shock and awe'.

While he was giving his live report about an hour ago, in the background were a few soldiers/Marines sleeping on the ground, getting some much needed rest.

Greg said they had operated on 2 hours sleep previously.

It is just after 6 PM in Bagdad now. Palcott on now reporting an 'eerie calm.' Night just falling. No pedestrians or vehicles on the streets.

Palcott called it 'hell and fury' last night during the 'shock and awe'.


92 posted on 11/09/2004 7:08:12 AM PST by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: Gucho; All

Greg Palcot....6pm Iraq time....calm...eery calm....we are getting ready for another tough mission tonight.......


93 posted on 11/09/2004 7:10:18 AM PST by mystery-ak (This military family thanks America for re-electing our CinC)
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To: All

"Loose lips sink ship" means we are not going to really know what is going on in Falluja until it is over.
We will get the bones they throw us but no where near the whole picture.
We & the Iraqi's have small units in the city that we will never hear about.
I see the media is up to it's old tricks,reporting U.S.casualities and not the terrorists killed or captured.
"Rumors can sink ships"


94 posted on 11/09/2004 7:12:48 AM PST by hubno (hub)
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To: prairiebreeze

You give a great and measured response to these "not terrorist" arguments. Thanks for your vigilance.


95 posted on 11/09/2004 7:16:25 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: Dog

"I got myself a real juicy target," shouted Sgt James Anyett, peering through the thermal sight of a Long Range Acquisition System (LRAS) mounted on one of Phantom's Humvees. "Prepare to copy that 89089226. Direction 202 degrees. Range 950 metres. I got five motherf****** in a building with weapons." A dozen loud booms rattle the sky and smoke rose as mortars rained down on the co-ordinates the sergeant had given. "Yeah," he yelled. "Battle Damage Assessment - nothing. Building's gone. I got my kills, I'm coming down. I just love my job."

ALL THE WAY


96 posted on 11/09/2004 7:18:54 AM PST by Gucho
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To: Gucho
How about:
Seditionist 1) Conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of a state. 2) Insurrection; rebellion.

When cast in that light, the non-violent pimps for Saddam (MMoore/ Scott Ritter/ Timothy McVeigh/ Etc) are cast in the same light.

97 posted on 11/09/2004 7:18:55 AM PST by TeleStraightShooter (Lurch planned to graft postVietnam policy on Iraq: Surrender and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: DollyCali

Marine Gunnery Sgt. Nick Popaditch, Cee-gar Man US Marine (Freeper)

98 posted on 11/09/2004 7:21:36 AM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: hershey

It is time to learn how to fight a real war rather than a shoot'em-up video game.

This battle has more aspects than simply killing the terrorists in Fallujah. You clearly have no concept of that. You may not like it, but the foolish method of "fire all the ammo you've got" only works in fantasy worlds, not in the real world of fighting a real war.


99 posted on 11/09/2004 7:21:43 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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Residents reported that a Saudi national known as Abu Waleed Saudi, a senior military aide to insurgent leader Abu Musab Zarqawi’s, was killed in fighting west of Fallujah.


100 posted on 11/09/2004 7:22:48 AM PST by No Blue States ("May they go to hell!" the soldiers shouted, and Allawi replied: "To hell they will go.")
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