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ADMIRAL VAN ORDEN TELLS IT LIKE IT IS - PARDON ME WHILE I GLOAT
Private Email | NOVEMBER 6, 2004 | ADMIRAL DICK VAN ORDEN

Posted on 11/06/2004 2:13:49 PM PST by CHARLITE

From a retired US Navy Admiral

PARDON ME WHILE I GLOAT

by Dick Van Orden

I am not normally a cheerful loser or a gracious winner. Whether its tiddly-winks or war at sea, I want to win, win, win! In fact, I hate to lose and when I win I sometimes want to rub the loser's nose in his defeat. After a sleepless night I feel just rotten enough that the past six months of lies and innuendos from the Kerry camp have it all come home to make me more vindictive than usual. As a result, I want to gloat. Here's why:

I am happy that the sound common sense of a majority of America's voters resulted in a solid victory for a true patriot-and in the humiliating defeat of a lying traitor. There was no doubt in my mind that Bush's truthfulness and forthrightness would prevail against the lies and half-truths of Kerry and his supporters, and I am pleased that a majority of good folks saw the light and pushed the Bush/ Cheney button for justice and for increasing support for the nation's bright future.

I am pleased that the left-leaning media-newspapers, radio, TV and newsmagazines-got their bell rung, but good. Now we are assured that these self-appointed "opinion makers" cannot pull the wool over the eyes of most of us, no matter how hard they twist the facts. Their early reporting of the "leaked" fraudulent exit polls, and their sponsorship of other badly skewed voter polls were designed to mislead voters, in which they failed-miserably. And Dan Rather deserves a special place in hell.

I am delighted that the fat, disgusting a-hole, Michael Moore did not achieve the success that he wished for and that he was repulsed by so many intelligent Americans. May his soul burn in hell.

I hope the Hollywood friends of Michael Moore-especially Barbara Streisand, Whoopi Goldberg, P-Diddler, and their friends-are roasting in the hell of their own making. It seems to me that they all offered to depart the U.S. if Bush won the first time, which they did not do. The time is now doubly ripe for their exit.

I am blissful that all the treasure and invective of George Soros devoted to defeating George Bush went for naught. I only wish for a financial future of similar poor decisions by Soros; I want to see him as bankrupt in bank account as he is in patriotism.

I find it particularly satisfying that the high ranking military suck-ups whose lack of integrity led them to desert their commander-in-chief and follow a lying cheat, even though they knew, or should have known, that his dismissal from the Navy was "less than honorable," as detailed in the military record that he refused to release. It is sad that such Navy types as Bill Crowe, Stan Turner, and even Jimmy Carter would be in that group. It is obvious that their motivation was the hope of a cushy job when their new-found knight in shining armor moved into the White House. Even their strategy was flawed, for Kerry is, and always has been, anti-military; he only used his military service-and those military "advisors"-for personal political gain. He would never have offered that cushy job, once he had used them, just as he never voted for the needed armament that they and their shipmates and their Marine Corps, Army, and Air Force brothers-in-arms needed so badly.

I am thrilled that the whiners who have complained bitterly about the "stolen" 2000 Presidential election must leave that fallacy in the past and now try to find something else to whine about-maybe they can even develop a fantasy that the four million vote plurality was a miscount, and continue their whining as they slink away into their caves.

It pleases me that Kofi Annan and the other United Nations sycophants failed miserably when they tried so hard to influence this election to ensure that a more pliable President Kerry would be elected. I hope they will now realize that either they clean up the bureaucratic, corrupt, do-nothing UN, or they will be short of funds when the Bush-led US decreases-or ends-its support.

I am overjoyed at the failure of Osama bin Laden's carefully timed video of invective against the US and its President in hopes of using Islamic scare tactics on the American people. Bin Laden's aim was to entice our voters to elect a new President who will not be as robust in his pursuit of terrorists and more willing to "negotiate" with Islamic Fundamentalists. He did not understand that Americans are not so panicky as the French, fearful as the Spanish, or unthinking as the English. (As for the Germans, they should know better; we have defeated them in battle often enough to convince them of the rightness of our ways.) I hope Osama dies in a blast from a bunker-buster before he gets a chance to make another video or another attack on our nation.

The blatant attempts of European nations and the EU to cause our President discomfort in his efforts to bring peace to the world make me glad that they are so disappointed with the election results. My joy is unbounded at the chagrin of the French and German and other anti-Bush, anti-American nations (including the people of the UK-but not their loyal and faithful government led by Prime Minister, Tony Blair). Now let those U.S.-sheltered Europeans worry about the end of American financial and military assistance when they have problems. Let them beg for American military aid and other handouts that have helped to sustain their economies. And let them perish in their own sweat when we remove out troops from Germany, the Balkans, and other trouble spots where we have pulled their chestnuts out of the fire.

I relish the hope that Islamic fundamentalists will now understand the election result as a blow from which they cannot recover. It fills me with joy that their dreams of world domination will be shattered by Bush's and the American nation's resolve to see them defeated and sent to join their Allah-without the 72 virgins waiting for them.

It pleases me more than I can say that the Senate Minority Leader, Thomas Daschle lost his seat. As the leading obstructionist for the Democrat party, he was primarily responsible for withholding approval of many Bush appointments to Federal judgeships, high-level positions, and other necessary personnel. Good riddance.

The demise of the junk-yard dog, loudmouth James Carville, also brings me great happiness. That happiness is further enhanced by the victory of the first Republican to win a Senate seat in Louisiana, Carville's home state.

I am delighted with the success of John O'Neil and his Swift Boat Vets-and with those thousands of non-Swifties who joined with them-on their forthright revelation of the truth of Kerry's service in Vietnam. They took a truthful but difficult position and made an impact-good and honorable Navy men all. Bush gets gentlemanly credit for not using them and their data in his campaign to demean Kerry, but the word was out that they spoke the truth. I maintain that they were the MVPs of this election; their testimony turned the tide against Kerry, and he never recovered.

And, finally, I must express my unbounded gratification at the defeat of Senator Kerry, a worthless Senator, anti-military extremist, lying self-promoter, and former Naval officer who disgraced us all. His traitorous collusion with the enemy is second only to that of Jane Fonda. He should have been court-martialed for giving aid and comfort to the enemy in time of war. His dishonorable quest for medals and a quick return to the US, where he turned against his shipmates and lied about their actions resulted in a less than honorable separation from the Navy. Jimmy Carter's amnesty allowed him to file for, and get, an honorable discharge 18 years after he left the service. He should have received a court martial.

While my thoughts may seem to be mean-spirited, do not be confused-they really are mean-spirited, as I mean them to be. I have suffered the tortures of the damned over the past year as I heard and read the lies and nasty remarks from politicians, citizens, and media "experts" about our President. I have barely tolerated the feeble but divisive attempts of foreign and domestic peaceniks to build a case against our war on the Islamic fundamentalists, who use terrorism as a weapon against us in order to intimidate out citizens and drive some of our gutless politicians to seek "negotiations" to avoid "confrontations" with those who seek to kill our citizens.

Most of all, I have seethed with anger at those who shamefully derided out military, blissfully reporting on their failures and neglecting their successes. They triumphantly celebrated our difficulties by running daily body counts of our own heroic men killed in battle with the enemy, even publishing their pictures in papers and on TV as if to mock the President who sent them to defend our nation. I have only disgust for such tactics. And those are the very same people who now plead for "united actions" in the House and Senate, now that they are in a steadily declining minority. I would advise our President to "watch your six" because these are really enemies and they are not to be trusted.

Four more years! How sweet it is!


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004elections; continuetopray; defeat; georgewbush; gloat; johnkerry; kerrydefeat; loser; praisegod; prayforgwandall; prayforourtroops; results; victory; winner
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To: CHARLITE

Bump for a great read!

I still want to hear more about kerry's less-than-honorable discharge.


21 posted on 11/06/2004 2:46:21 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: CHARLITE

Absolutely wonderful, Admiral. You said it much, much better than I could. I have felt a seething anger at these evil people for over a year now. They declared jhad against our President all this time with very few to defend him. The GOP were shameful because most of them just curled up in a fetal position and let it happen.

President Bush and his guys, mainly Karl Rove, were in their Foxholes planning their all out assault for November 3, 2004 on these blowhards. Just to see the "media" elites and liberals faces was priceless, especially Dan Rather.

How sweet it is!!!!!


23 posted on 11/06/2004 2:47:55 PM PST by nightowl
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To: CHARLITE

Excellent, kudos to the Admiral. I sent this to all Liberal friends and family who simply don't "get it". Sums up exactly how I feel and I would venture to say how all Bush Supporters feel.


24 posted on 11/06/2004 2:51:41 PM PST by Retired Army Special Forces
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To: CHARLITE
Thank you for your service, Admiral.

Great read! Carry on...

25 posted on 11/06/2004 2:51:45 PM PST by libsrscum (An Army of 59 Million.)
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To: CHARLITE
Barbra Streisand's world on November 1, 2004

Barbra Streisand's world after November 2, 2004

26 posted on 11/06/2004 2:51:50 PM PST by NewLand (God Bless America and God Bless President Bush!)
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To: CHARLITE

"While my thoughts may seem to be mean-spirited, do not be confused-they really are mean-spirited, as I mean them to be."

GOOD ATTITUDE!


27 posted on 11/06/2004 2:53:36 PM PST by jocon307 (Maintain the mandate!)
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To: CHARLITE

The Admiral sums it up for me.


28 posted on 11/06/2004 2:55:32 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: CHARLITE

From an old Navy guy about 12 notches lower, I can only say to you Admiral - you have expressed it so well and thank you - we can still have faith in "ordinary Americans."


29 posted on 11/06/2004 3:00:18 PM PST by matchwood
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To: CHARLITE

The Admiral speaks for a lot of people....


30 posted on 11/06/2004 3:01:38 PM PST by mystery-ak (This military family thanks America for re-electing our CinC)
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To: CHARLITE
It is sad that such Navy types as Bill Crowe, Stan Turner, and even Jimmy Carter would be in that group.

It was of no surprise to me to see Jimmy Carter among that group. Now that the election is over, I hope to never see that b*stard Jimmy Carter again.

31 posted on 11/06/2004 3:01:54 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (Fraud is the lifeblood of the Democratic Party)
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To: CHARLITE; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
ATTENTION ON DECK!

ADMIRAL VAN ORDEN ARRIVING.

32 posted on 11/06/2004 3:04:37 PM PST by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: CHARLITE

likewise!!


33 posted on 11/06/2004 3:05:35 PM PST by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: CHARLITE

Sorry, Charlite, but I can't find this article anywhere on the web. News searches and general searches don't bring it up. I also checked Snopes to see if it's an urban legend, but they have no data on it one way or the other. I'd love to see an original myself...


34 posted on 11/06/2004 3:05:38 PM PST by DocFarmer
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To: CHARLITE

Excuse my cynicism, but did we hear anything from the Admiral BEFORE the election?


35 posted on 11/06/2004 3:07:23 PM PST by Mach9 (.)
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To: CHARLITE; tutstar

Thank you, sir


36 posted on 11/06/2004 3:09:08 PM PST by Nightshift (Ignorance on your part, doesn't require a reply on my part.)
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To: NewLand

I've been wondering what her house looked like. How about putting a For Sale post on top of this, with a note saying current owner relocating to Iran and publishing on FR.Thanks.


37 posted on 11/06/2004 3:09:24 PM PST by hardworking
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To: CHARLITE

Well said. I'm also thrilled....of the defeat of the rats!!!


38 posted on 11/06/2004 3:11:41 PM PST by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: The Sailor; grace522; kjfine; Old Sarge; USAF_TSgt; darkwing104; txradioguy; Long Cut; ...

"...I am happy that the sound common sense of a majority of America's voters resulted in a solid victory for a true patriot-and in the humiliating defeat of a lying traitor. There was no doubt in my mind that Bush's truthfulness and forthrightness would prevail against the lies and half-truths of Kerry and his supporters, and I am pleased that a majority of good folks saw the light and pushed the Bush/ Cheney button for justice and for increasing support for the nation's bright future.


I am pleased that the left-leaning media-newspapers, radio, TV and newsmagazines-got their bell rung, but good. Now we are assured that these self-appointed "opinion makers" cannot pull the wool over the eyes of most of us, no matter how hard they twist the facts. Their early reporting of the "leaked" fraudulent exit polls, and their sponsorship of other badly skewed voter polls were designed to mislead voters, in which they failed-miserably. And Dan Rather deserves a special place in hell..."

I VOW to the 58,000 + names on
The Viet Nam Wall who never came home

"I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to expose Hanoi Kerry once and for all."

MSM still refuses to tell the real story about Hanoi Kerry!

ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
is part of THE cover up of the election.

Do you wonder why the Left whines about the election results?

They still think Hanoi Kerry is a "war hero"

They don't know what a traitor he is!

And I don't know about you but
I'm sick and tired of the Right media saying
"what an honorable man Senator Kerry is"

Why isn't the Right all over Hanoi Kerry
to be impeached from the US Senate?

Timeline of John Kerry

http://www.archive-news.net/Kerry/JK_timeline.html

Hanoi Approved of Role Played By Kerry and VVAW

http://www.nysun.com/article/3756

Ex-Navy sec to Kerry: Open up your records

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41230

NY Sun 11/01/04

Kerry's Discharge Is Questioned by An Ex-JAG Officer

http://www.nysun.com/article/4040

"There is overwhelming evidence that the Navy gave John Kerry either a dishonorable discharge
or an undesirable discharge – which is the equivalent of a dishonorable discharge
without the felony conviction – and that, as a result of such discharge,
he was stripped of all of his famous but questionable Navy awards and medals.

And the kicker? The evidence is on his website!"

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41200

The whole 42:09 Stolen Honor online FREE right now! E-mail it NOW!

Stolen Honor nails Kerry and the VVAW
and how they lied at Winter Soldier.
And how Kerry lied to the US Senate in 1971
And how Kerry and his pack of liars caused our POW's to suffer!

Kerry and the DNC cannot stop
EVERYONE on the internet from seeing this!

http://stolenhonor.com/documentary/watch-video.asp


Free online version of
John Kerry and the VVAW
"The New Soldier"
Banned by the DNC!
You can read it online right now.
http://ejsmithweb.com/fr/newsoldier/




Hey Hanoi Kerry

The BEST is yet to come from Viet Nam Vets!

WAIT till America knows the REAL truth about you!

Your "honorable discharge" is as phony
as your Purple Hearts and your other phony medals!

You and the MSM are traitors to the American public!

Go to France you scum! And take the MSM with you!

THEN the MSM can't try and "fix" another
election with their phony polls.




Yes, Nov 2 was a great battle victory!
But the war is NOT over.
I've seen on TV and heard on the Radio
attacks about Swift Boat Vets AFTER the election.
And what liars they are.
So closure is NOT going to happen for Viet Nam Vets, yet.
Time to expose Hanoi Kerry in the MSM once and for all!
Then Viet Nam Vets will FINALLY be vindicated.
THEN it will be over!

DON'T LET THIS STORY DIE!

ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
made sure you knew about the Bush phony National Guard documents.

Q) Why did
ABC, AP, CBS, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, NBC, NY Times
NOT ask Kerry about why he wouldn't sign Form 180?

A) Because they are AFRAID of the REAL story!

Q) Why does the Senate allow a traitor in their midst?

A) Ask YOUR Senator!




EXPOSE HANOI KERRY!

Distribute these url's!

http://tonkin.spymac.net/hanoikerry1.html

There is a backup site
if the 1st url is unavailable.

http://stophanoikerry.150m.com/




39 posted on 11/06/2004 3:17:26 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry lied in 1971 and still lies today! But hey, I'm just a "war criminal")
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To: CHARLITE; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; BykrBayb; LakeLady; bridgemanusa; Darksheare; Dr Snide; ...

I am looking forward to reading what he really thinks...LOL

The Admiral tells it like it is! God bless our brave military, and send them our hope, and let them know that we support them each and every one.


40 posted on 11/06/2004 3:19:37 PM PST by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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