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Proposition 71, which passed 59 percent to 41 percent Tuesday, will have the state borrow $3 billion to fund stem cell research. It establishes the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine, which will be managed by a 29-member board to be appointed over the next month.

The board, in turn, will appoint two committee to approve grants. One committee will approve money for research, while the other will be in charge of doling out funds to build new labs and other facilities.

1 posted on 11/05/2004 4:10:09 PM PST by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

The first sales recruit on the SNAKE OIL WAGON.


2 posted on 11/05/2004 4:11:16 PM PST by pypo (I support our troops' Commander-in-Chief)
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To: NormsRevenge

more california insanity.....ahnold sure blew this one


4 posted on 11/05/2004 4:15:25 PM PST by kingattax
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To: NormsRevenge

How many people will be on each commitee? sounds like this will be admin heavy... most government jobs are. and very little of this debt passed onto Californians will go to stem cell research


5 posted on 11/05/2004 4:17:01 PM PST by JoanneSD
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To: NormsRevenge
LOL

Can you say "boondoggle"?

The amazing thing is that 99% of the morons who voted for this don't know jack squat about what "stem-cell research" is. They have no good reason to believe that it is useful, or has potential, or anything. They have vague foggy idiotic notions that it would have saved Christopher Reeve's life or something. ALL they REALLY know about it is that Bush doesn't want it.

And that's all they needed to know! "If Bush doesn't want it, let's fund it with 6 billion dollars we can't afford!" It's amazing.

Just think of the reverse-psychology opportunities here... ;-)

6 posted on 11/05/2004 4:17:47 PM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: NormsRevenge

The majority of voters pissed away 6 Billion dollars (30 year payback) on these bonds to fund bureaucratic bank accounts....nothing else.


7 posted on 11/05/2004 4:18:28 PM PST by afnamvet ( Jet Noise...The Sound of Freedom!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dr. Josef Mengele would be proud. He could only wish he had a $3 billion ($6 billion w/interest) budget to experiment on cloned human embryos.


8 posted on 11/05/2004 4:20:05 PM PST by Drago
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To: NormsRevenge

The leftists hit another mother-load.

Can't spend us into the poor house fast enough.


9 posted on 11/05/2004 4:22:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: NormsRevenge; Mr. Silverback
The Institute for Regenerative Medicine


I am having waking nightmares - this is reminding me of Charles Colson's book... Gideon's Torch., written in 1995.

In his FICTIONAL book - he called them "Regeneration Centers", funded by the government and Hollywood. In many book reviews - it was called "COLSON'S FANTASY...an ANTI-WOMAN TURNER DIARY FOR THE 90'S."...

It may have been sold as fiction, it may have been called fantasy... but it has all come to pass.

I'm going to get it out and read it again.

10 posted on 11/05/2004 4:26:18 PM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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Dr. Mengele, your staff is waiting.


14 posted on 11/05/2004 4:39:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: NormsRevenge
My birth state is not only an irreparable mess,

it has finally gone to Hell.
15 posted on 11/05/2004 4:40:11 PM PST by onyx (John "F" Kerry deserves to be the final casualty of the Vietnam War - Re-elect Bush/Cheney)
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Well I hope all you RINOld fan club members are happy...
6 BILLION DOLLARS spent that we don't friggin' have for BS "medical research" that does not have one iota of success!!

Any one who voted for this musclebrain who wants to pay my state income taxes for the next twenty friggin years for this scam and the rest of the 40 BILLION DOLLARS OF DEBT please let me know!

Have a great weekend all!

Semper Fi,
Kelly

PS Please keep the Marines & Soldiers in your prayers.
The manure is getting ready to hit the proverbial fan YKW.


16 posted on 11/05/2004 4:45:30 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge

After a hard day at the State Hatchery, a little soma will make the day right.


20 posted on 11/05/2004 5:05:04 PM PST by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: NormsRevenge
>> Proposition 71, which passed 59 percent to 41 percent Tuesday, will have the state borrow $3 billion to fund stem cell research. It establishes the California Institute for Regenerative Medicine, which will be managed by a 29-member board to be appointed over the next month. The board, in turn, will appoint two committee to approve grants. One committee will approve money for research, while the other will be in charge of doling out funds to build new labs and other facilities. Pizzo was appointed by state Controller Steve Westly, who gets to make five appointments to the 29-member board. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante and Treasurer Phil Angelides each get to appoint five members as well . In addition, the five University of California medical schools in San Diego, Irvine, Los Angles, San Francisco and Davis each get one appointment. <<

I hope all the RINOs in California are enjoying their "fiscally conservative" government in action. For yoru next "fiscally conservative" action, perhaps you can spend several zillion to replace Bustamente with a socialist that has an "R" next to his name. George Ryan is tanned, rested, and ready for the job.

21 posted on 11/05/2004 5:44:37 PM PST by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Does anyone know the legality of this type of embryonic cloning under U.S. law? Federal anti-cloning legislation would pu a big crimp in this nonsense.
24 posted on 11/05/2004 6:04:02 PM PST by Fatalis (John Kyl in 2008)
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To: NormsRevenge; 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; Askel5; attagirl; ..
As pypo said: The first sales recruit on the snake oil wagon.

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

26 posted on 11/05/2004 8:53:57 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Today the Donkeys need 10 billion gallons of bacitacrin and a whole lot of band-aids.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Very similar to the Bush approach where he FIRST doubled the out-the-door budget of the NIH and only then legitimized the "stem cell" research ... icing the cake by appointing a man who'd made his bones (so to speak) at Johns Hopkins.

I realize the rending of children limb from limb in the womb is something to which most human beings can relate as "wrong" but I suppose we must thank the Birth Control mentality for the way Christians are able to rationalize the fact that ALL MEN are no longer CREATED equal.

Science proves unequivocably that a human life is COMPLETE at the moment of conception and requires -- as does any child -- only food and protection from his mother.

It amazes me that Christians -- for whom God is their favorite philosopher, even -- have managed to overcome this Scientific Fact which, by all rights, should suggest the only logical conclusion that the Soul a part of that Unique Body is also present from the moment of conception.

But Christians accustomed to Planning "God's blessings" and seeking to exclude their beloved Creator from the most intimate and profoundly creative relationship of their lives here on earth likely are ripe for rationalizing just about Big Lie these days ... particularly of the Self-Deluding variety.

I guess the part I liked best was the way anyone who championed Bush as "against" stem cells had to rely on the tried and true "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO" argument in arguing against Prop. 71.

29 on the commission ... perfect. Elevenses is so appropriate to the work of the Diabolical. Not that these numbers -- like those used to Science death and torture camps worldwide such as Unit 731 -- aren't pulled out of thin air, natch.

27 posted on 11/05/2004 9:23:08 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: NormsRevenge; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; ...
Wonder if they will now re-issue CA license plates, to read:

California - The EUGENICS State

This measure did not pass by a resounding majority vote. My sincere sympathies to those solid citizens who also live in the beautiful state of California, and treasure its rich heritage. Too many of us have watched our core values stripped away by the liberals who moved into our home states.

Catholic Ping - please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


32 posted on 11/06/2004 12:58:01 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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To: NormsRevenge

Q: How many dead babies does $3 billion buy?

A: ?


33 posted on 11/06/2004 7:14:19 AM PST by PaxMacian
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To: NormsRevenge

From where are they going to borrow this money?
Shouldn't whatever institution which lends it be up for boycott by atleast that 41% of Californians and the rest of us as well?


34 posted on 11/06/2004 7:30:36 AM PST by PaxMacian
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