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British hack author insists Kerry won election (by playing race card)
Ramblings' Journal ^ | 11.5.04 | Michael King

Posted on 11/05/2004 3:54:14 PM PST by mhking

Britsh columnist Greg Palast, who fancies himself as a kind of Michael Moore for across the pond, insists in today's column that John Kerry won the majority of the vote in Ohio, and -- at least by his reckoning -- won the election.

Palast tries to use CNN's exit polling data to justify his outlandish position, completely ignoring the actual counts from the state Secretary of State's office. He incredibly attempts to use the race card to further bolster his insane position.

At 1:05 a.m. Wednesday morning, CNN's exit poll showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47 percent. The exit polls were later combined with—and therefore contaminated by—the tabulated results, ultimately becoming a mirror of the apparent actual vote. Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51 percent to 49 percent.

the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial, question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know.

The election in Ohio was not decided by the voters but by something called "spoilage." Typically in the United States, about 3 percent of the vote is voided, just thrown away, not recorded.

And not all votes spoil equally. Most of those votes, say every official report, come from African-American and minority precincts.

Palast also insists that the close victory in New Mexico also belongs to Kerry. He blames provisional balloting in that case. What Palast doesn't tell you is that the bulk of the provisional vote -- something the DEMOCRATS insisted on -- went for Democratic candidates (including Kerry), and Kerry still lost the state.

Palast is one who rabidly hates the GOP in general, and the Bush Administration in particular.

Palast practically wanted to desecrate Ronald Reagan's grave, and insisted that he was "in hell" for what he had done in office.

What Palast has little consequence to anyone on this side of the Atlantic, but in the UK, he does his best to stir up as much anti-American sentiment as he possibly can.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: babyatepaintchips; barkingmoonbatlefty; bigot; breachbirthanoxia; british; brits; collectivists; dirtyrats; eurotrash; gregpalast; marxists; rats; socialists; sorelosers; syphiliticdementia
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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: David1
He is not a Brit. He is from the US.

My apologies to the UK for giving Palast the moron to them. It sounds like he's OUR village idiot -- or perhaps I should say "one of" our village idiots.

22 posted on 11/05/2004 4:02:47 PM PST by mhking
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To: mhking

They just won't accept it... To Bad, BUSH WON!!


23 posted on 11/05/2004 4:02:49 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: Lutonian

Actually I think he's an American, at least by birth. He doesn't have an accent and said he voted in the election.


24 posted on 11/05/2004 4:03:20 PM PST by cripplecreek (John Kerry was beaten like a rented mule)
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To: mhking
Guys like Palast do us a great service in reality because the more they don't get it, the more they are destined to repeat their mistakes, and the more we are destined to solidify our political dominance in the US.
25 posted on 11/05/2004 4:03:27 PM PST by Patti_ORiley
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To: mhking

Well, it says at the beginning that he is a British columnist. I think we can be excused for thinking that he is one.


26 posted on 11/05/2004 4:04:21 PM PST by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: mhking

Puh-leeze. I worked in a precinct at this election. Voters get three chances on a written ballot, and that's it. Some spoiled ballots are spoiled by random marks (an elderly person who is very unsteady often drags their pen and makes extra marks), some are spoiled because the voter wasn't paying attention and marked the wrong box, and some - I hate to say it - are spoiled because the voter can't read and won't ask for help.

The supervisor in my polling place did everything possible to make sure that everyone voted, and when the third ballot had been requested, he made sure that the voter knew that they couldn't have another one, but that if they needed someone to help them, they could get it. In one case, they requested help; in another, they didn't.

Incidentally, the supervisor was a black man.


27 posted on 11/05/2004 4:04:30 PM PST by livius
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To: Lutonian
Cue another Brit-bashing thread.......

lol.....so you equate bashing a certain individual Marxist Brit with bashing the whole country? Does that mean that when we Americans bash Michael Moore we're "America bashing?"

Needless to say, your "logic" is a bit wanting.

28 posted on 11/05/2004 4:05:23 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: mhking

How would the Brits like michael moore messing in their elections?


29 posted on 11/05/2004 4:07:12 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: mhking
Palast tries to use CNN's exit polling data to justify his outlandish position, completely ignoring the actual counts from the state Secretary of State's office.

Did this guy work for the Census when they were trying to use "statistical analysis" to create people instead of actually counting them?

30 posted on 11/05/2004 4:11:36 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Lutonian

Fine, then take your arguments over to those threads, not this one.


32 posted on 11/05/2004 4:13:27 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Lutonian

It isn't our British allies that should be bashed..It is the press that thinks were are just too dumb to vote...The left here and there mostly consider conservatives either wild eyed fanatics or dumb bumpkins...The Guardian had a thread on politics talk on "How to assassinate Bush and Cheney"..Outrageous


33 posted on 11/05/2004 4:14:30 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
How would the Brits like michael moore messing in their elections?

The difference is Mike Moore is not a Brit.

Palast is an American expatriot. (bloody colonials!)

34 posted on 11/05/2004 4:15:16 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (They have a saying in Chicago Mr Bond once happenstance, twice coincidence, three times enemy action)
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To: Lutonian

Sensitive, are you?

The America bashing by the Brits doesn't cease either. I have a choice, either to wet the bed, or give as good as I get.


35 posted on 11/05/2004 4:17:11 PM PST by JoJo Gunn (More than two lawyers in any Country constitutes a terrorist organization. ©)
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To: Mr. Mojo; Lutonian

.....And don't allow a few idiots over on those threads to get you down. There are some in every crowd. The vast majority of American Freepers are happy to have conservative Brits around here -- we share the same core beliefs. .....and enemies.


36 posted on 11/05/2004 4:20:09 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: mhking
He was on Michael Medved this after spewing the same garbage. Trying to make it all Bush racism all the time. Palast is a true Clymer.
39 posted on 11/05/2004 4:31:33 PM PST by MKM1960
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To: MKM1960

Did Medved tear him to shreds?


40 posted on 11/05/2004 4:36:29 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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