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1 posted on 11/05/2004 11:10:33 AM PST by Jaysin
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Thanks for sharing!


2 posted on 11/05/2004 11:15:35 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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The FDR/TRUMAN generation of liberals is fast declining. The next election will be even less liberal. The dems threw everthing they had, and it was considerable, and it wasn't enough. Declining union power, Shrinking liberal elderly population, rise in conservative orthodox religions, more and better educated young people. The socialists will die a lingering death......not unlike arafat....


3 posted on 11/05/2004 11:17:25 AM PST by Red Badger (Give someone enough EU-ROPE and they will hang themselves......out of pure frustration......)
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Interesting insight. Thank you.


4 posted on 11/05/2004 11:17:44 AM PST by LiberalBassTurds (Islam is a religion of peace. Strange every murdering psychopath in the world is attracted to it.)
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Great article. Although I don't agree with your comment re Chassidim. Correct me if I am wrong, but Chabad/Lubovitcher Chassidim, for instance, support Israel. Satmar Chassidim don't. But that is just a minor issue in what otherwise is a very thoughtful and correct analysis.


5 posted on 11/05/2004 11:18:58 AM PST by howiem98
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Thank you.


6 posted on 11/05/2004 11:20:08 AM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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Makes sense to me . I had been wondering why more of the Jewish vote was not concerned with Israel and Bush's connection. I too believe the Jewish republican vote was greater this election.


7 posted on 11/05/2004 11:20:12 AM PST by jodi888
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Zay gezunt.


8 posted on 11/05/2004 11:21:33 AM PST by Cagey ("We need a leader, not a weather vane".....................Laura Armstrong)
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Jaysin

Thank you very much for this post. This has driven me crazy for years and I have more than a passing contact with the Jewish community (Krav Maga interest)! I could never figure out why the Jewish voters seemed to be voting against their Israel interests when the Dims clearly could not care less if the PLO drove all of Israel into the sea. I would love to hear more Jewish conservatives confirm and discuss this post.

Shalom to all the Jewish Freepers!
10 posted on 11/05/2004 11:23:15 AM PST by Way To The Right of Rush
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I agree with most of this post. It seems to me that like the Exit Polls the figures on Jewish support for Bush are off. I was the only person I knew who voted for Bush in 2000. This time around almost everyone I know voted for Bush. Something doesn't add up.


13 posted on 11/05/2004 11:29:58 AM PST by jperspective
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The non-orthodox Jewish community is rapidly declining through such factors as intermarriage, loss of identity, having less children at a later age, and old-age.

Don't leave out abortion and gays.

the average orthodox home consists of 5 to 8 children.

I have 9 kids, 11 grandkids, and 3 more on the way.

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14 posted on 11/05/2004 11:33:55 AM PST by Alouette (Schadenfreude--it's better than prozac!)
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Tell us how Orthodox Jews feel about Christians.

Judging their reaction to the movie "The Passion", apparently many Jews fear that Christians are going to retaliate against them because they killed Christ.

American Christians are shocked by the idea that we would attack God's chosen people.

Historically, political enemies of the Jews in the Old World used religion to inflame the masses against the Jews, but American Christians would never do so.

16 posted on 11/05/2004 11:37:21 AM PST by bayourod (Specter's litmus test : "No Christian Judges")
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This underscores a reason why the Left is so quick to ascribe President Bush's victory solely to "evangelical Christians", to divide that group from all the other orthodox and conservative people of other faiths who also do not share the Democrats domestic and foreign policy world view.


18 posted on 11/05/2004 11:38:13 AM PST by pawdoggie
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Shabbat bumps!


19 posted on 11/05/2004 11:39:41 AM PST by Uncledave
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20 posted on 11/05/2004 11:43:11 AM PST by SJackson ( Bush is as free as a bird, He is only accountable to history and God, Ra'anan Gissin)
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It was way higher than 24%. Hopefully, some responsible polling group will soon poll real Jews for REAL to get the REAL results. I'm thinking of doing it myself. Maybe y'all could help.


21 posted on 11/05/2004 11:43:53 AM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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Othodox Jews, like orthodox Christians, are growing because they have strong moral values and believe in the future enough to have more than one child. Meanwhile, secular Jews and liberals of every stripe either don't get married. Or, if they do -- or have a long-time relationship -- they have no more than one child. And, don't forget abortion. In the end, secularist humanism is suicidal and orthodox faith gives life.


22 posted on 11/05/2004 11:44:41 AM PST by WashingtonSource (Freedom is not free.)
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"Boca Raton Jewish liberals are in their 70's and 80's"

and all they know is Roosevelt Roosevelt Roosevelt Roosevelt,,this is changing i will bet it was 30+% for Bush,i know from the people i know 50%


23 posted on 11/05/2004 11:44:59 AM PST by rang1995
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thanks for the post and sharing your views. i might add, that the people's party in southwest usa ran an openly anti-semitic platform after severe weather wiped out herds and caused crop failure in the late 1870s. realizing that they could not become a national party, they merged with today's democratic party. the anti-semitism reared its ugly heads in the 1930s during the depression. i also suggest that, despited your outstanding analysis, there is an education issue at play as well.


27 posted on 11/05/2004 11:49:30 AM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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BTTT


28 posted on 11/05/2004 11:52:25 AM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Good post.

I would add, though, that the primary reason for left-leaning politics among American Jews is their family ancestry. Most Jews in this country are descended from people who immigrated from Eastern Europe in the early decades of the 20th century. These immigrants came from countries where socialism had been a way of life since Bismarck unified Germany in 1870s, and they brought their "nanny-state" expectations here with them.

29 posted on 11/05/2004 11:52:59 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I made enough money to buy Miami -- but I pissed it away on the Alternative Minimum Tax.)
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