Conservatives had better keep the pressure on Congress to have hearings and pass legislation. I have two words: Detroit and Philadelphia. Read up on the massive voter fraud in those two cities. Eliminate the fraud there and Michigan and PA are red states in 2008.
-T
I'm not too worried about it. Half of them will be invalidated, and heck, if they go 100% for Kerry, Bush will still lead by 9,000. That's a lot in a state that small.
I know we had better get something done about the corruption that allows blatant fraud here in Michigan (detroit)
The GOP better keep contendiong the provisional ballots in Ohio as well. The Bolsheviks are the most dangerous when they are losing.
OOps, never mind, I read 8,000, not 18,000. Still, there is no way Kerry will beat Bush's 13,000 vote lead with those. A lot of them will be invalidated, and the rest won't break 100% for Kerry, which is what he would need.
I saw the essay by the person who was a poll watcher in NM...she said they thought nothing of telling people who "lost" their absentee ballot to go ahead an vote in the booth.
It is on here somewhere....very eyeopening...made me want to poll watch in a key state next time.
Provisional ballots are generally just a way of getting unqualified voters out of the polling place without having them pitch a fit. Only about 1 out of 6 are valid.
If the provisional ballots are counted in accordance with the law, there's nothing to worry about. Most of them will be invalid, and in any case, they break (by party) at about the same rate as the precinct from which they were cast.
My son almost had to vote by provisional ballot because the list at the precinct did not have his name and they had yet to get their updated list even though when I checked the voting list, it was already 3:30 p.m.
The problem wasn't that he wasn't registered to vote, it was that when he re-registered in October due to us moving last year, he wrote the street address as one word. He got notification of his address being a non-precinctable address which required a phone call to see what the problem was and get it straightened out.
Fortunately, when he got to the precinct at around 6 pm, the new list with his name on it was in the process of getting faxed.
I do see a need for provisional ballots, since when I was checking the voter list off my list to see who had voted and who needed to be called, I noticed there were other people on my list who were not on the precinct's voting list.
It's ridiculous, though, that the precinct got an updated list so late in the day.
I know that the 3 that were cast in the precinct I was working in will be trashed. They just allowed them to vote to make them go away.
When are these provisional ballots going to become illegal? What a bunch of crap. This country really needs to take better care of it's election process.
There were people voting in Dona Ana County NM that were from El Paso TX...
I heard from a friend who saw someone they know from El Paso that she thought they were being PAID to cast votes here for Kerry :-(
This 'friend' asker her not to say anything to anyone about it..
They do need to get on the ball about this.
Thanks for this thread. I've been concerned about this for a couple of days now. Richardson will steal this if possible.
1) Clear the voter lists every two years.
2) Photo ID with proof of residency required to re-register.
3) Photo ID with validated signature at voting site
4) Indelible ink (that is indelible) for thumbrints on election day - thank you Afghanistan for the idea!
Suggestions welcome! ;-)
Mini-crisis over. The SOS site has now been updated to generally agree with the Journal/AP numbers.