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18,000 Provisional Votes Await Count in N.M.
Albuquerque Journal (electronic) ^ | 11/04/2004 | Whitman

Posted on 11/04/2004 3:00:59 PM PST by timbuck2

New Mexico's 33 county clerks are required to submit their complete vote totals— including provisional and absentee votes— to the Secretary of State's Office by Nov. 12, Ortega said... State officials are to present their final canvass, or vote count, to the state canvassing board by Nov. 23, Ortega said. Bernalillo County Clerk Mary Herrera said Wednesday she wants to count the provisional ballots soon. "I'm making it a priority to count the provisional ballots right away," Herrera said. About 13,000 provisional ballots awaited counting in Bernalillo County, Herrera said. There are three kinds of ballots to be counted within the 13,000 total...

Provisional ballots: These are paper ballots given to voters who show up at the wrong precinct or don't have the right kind of identification when they come to vote in person, for example. Total: About 8,550.

Provisional absentee ballots: These are absentee ballots where the voter was required to show identification. Diaz said election workers do not know whether these people satisfied the identification requirement or not. (Only people who registered to vote by mail, and are voting for the first time in the county in which they registered, must show identification.) Total: 2,640...

Partisan lawyers watched the vote counting process closely on Wednesday. "Provisional voting is to ensure that voters can cast their ballots in a new legal environment," said Jim Noel, a Democratic lawyer. "It's to make sure people aren't disenfranchised. . . I'm talking about people who are entitled to vote— eligible voters." A Republican lawyer says the majority of "garden variety" provisional ballots often are invalidated. "Typically the vast majority of them are bounced," said Joe Thompson, a Republican lawyer. "It's a very, very high standard, and the invalidation rate of those is well over 50 percent by any analysis."

(Excerpt) Read more at abqjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2004; ballot; bush; election; fraud; kerry; newmexico; provisional; results; votes
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To: kabar

btt


41 posted on 11/04/2004 4:47:31 PM PST by Ciexyz (Bush still rules. The sun shines over America.)
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To: CedarDave

Maybe this is the year that NM can finally be shown for the cheating that goes on there. When Richardson came out about 1:30 Weds morning with 20,000+ votes, when NM was showing 101 & 103% precincts reporting, it was blatant.


42 posted on 11/04/2004 4:48:53 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: ican'tbelieveit

How come CNN has Bush leading 370,706 to 362,340 for a total vote cast between the two of 733,046 and the NM site shows a total of 688,216 between the two candidates?


43 posted on 11/04/2004 4:48:56 PM PST by kabar
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To: Ciexyz

updated totals as of 7:21 ET

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/NM/P/00/index.html


44 posted on 11/04/2004 4:51:37 PM PST by kabar
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To: ican'tbelieveit
I'm writing a letter to both Pete and Steve Pearce saying the national voter criteria must be established by law for both registration and voting, and it must show proof of eligibility both times (picture ID preferred).
45 posted on 11/04/2004 4:54:06 PM PST by CedarDave (Served with pride alongside the Swifties, USCG patrol boat, Coastal Division 13, Viet Nam, 1967-68.)
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To: CedarDave

BTTT


46 posted on 11/04/2004 5:15:51 PM PST by greyfoxx39
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To: CedarDave

Writing new federal standards and SCOTUS appointments are the two most important issues (after nat'l security) for the new congress to tackle.

Does anybody disagree? If not, let's start lobbying to get this done. No better time than now.

-T


47 posted on 11/04/2004 5:20:44 PM PST by timbuck2 ("The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedients, and by parts." -Edmund Burke)
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To: CedarDave

The SOS numbers are the only ones that count in the end.


48 posted on 11/04/2004 5:22:37 PM PST by Ready4Freddy (Carpe Sharpei !)
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To: greyfoxx39

Are we awake now? Let's not go soft because we won one election. New Mexico is being stolen right now and Iowa and Ohio could be next. Think it is out of the question? You do not think the propaganda war that the Dems will wage after manipulating the provisional ballot totals in OH will not make FL look like peanuts? I am not being an alarmist here. Just watch it unfold in the next few weeks. Mark my words. Call your representatives and tell them to draft new federal legislation.

-T


49 posted on 11/04/2004 5:24:10 PM PST by timbuck2 ("The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedients, and by parts." -Edmund Burke)
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To: timbuck2
My second letter was to Pete and Frist to have Specter bounced as chair of Judiciary.
50 posted on 11/04/2004 5:24:41 PM PST by CedarDave (Served with pride alongside the Swifties, USCG patrol boat, Coastal Division 13, Viet Nam, 1967-68.)
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To: CedarDave

Attn: Powers that be at Free Republic!

Shouldn't this thread be highlighted at this point?

-T


51 posted on 11/04/2004 5:26:18 PM PST by timbuck2 ("The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away, for expedients, and by parts." -Edmund Burke)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Yep, but we are still quite a bit away from the end here in NM. Just want to make sure the end result is the correct one, whether we like it or not.


52 posted on 11/04/2004 5:26:54 PM PST by CedarDave (Served with pride alongside the Swifties, USCG patrol boat, Coastal Division 13, Viet Nam, 1967-68.)
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To: timbuck2
You're the author -- you could ask the AdminMod to modify the title as follows:

(Update: Bush losing lead)

That'll get their attention.

53 posted on 11/04/2004 5:32:53 PM PST by CedarDave (Served with pride alongside the Swifties, USCG patrol boat, Coastal Division 13, Viet Nam, 1967-68.)
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To: CedarDave

And have them put it in Front Page, not breaking news -- I'm not ready to go bonkers over this just yet.


54 posted on 11/04/2004 5:34:20 PM PST by CedarDave (Served with pride alongside the Swifties, USCG patrol boat, Coastal Division 13, Viet Nam, 1967-68.)
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To: CedarDave

I've been following this story closely since I grew up in NM. Richarson seems pretty confident that NM is Kerry's.

I hope the GOP is staying on top of this.


55 posted on 11/04/2004 5:36:21 PM PST by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: timbuck2

Thanks for this thread. I've been concerned about this for a couple of days now. Richardson will steal this if possible.


56 posted on 11/04/2004 5:50:45 PM PST by texasmountainman (proud father of a U.S. Marine)
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To: texasmountainman
I hope the GOP is staying on top of this.

I have no doubt they are. I remember a couple of elections ago, Pete himself went down to the Bernalillo County clerks office to raise hell about all the jockeying that was going on with vote totals (and he wasn't running!!). No, NM Pubbies have been burned too often and I'm sure they will do their best to see that it is fair.

57 posted on 11/04/2004 5:52:15 PM PST by CedarDave (Served with pride alongside the Swifties, USCG patrol boat, Coastal Division 13, Viet Nam, 1967-68.)
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To: timbuck2; zbigreddogz; cripplecreek
I'm with TimBuck2! We have four years to reform the system.

1) Clear the voter lists every two years.

2) Photo ID with proof of residency required to re-register.

3) Photo ID with validated signature at voting site

4) Indelible ink (that is indelible) for thumbrints on election day - thank you Afghanistan for the idea!

Suggestions welcome! ;-)

58 posted on 11/04/2004 5:57:40 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Repeal the 22nd Amendment!)
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To: timbuck2

Mini-crisis over. The SOS site has now been updated to generally agree with the Journal/AP numbers.


59 posted on 11/04/2004 6:10:40 PM PST by CedarDave (Served with pride alongside the Swifties, USCG patrol boat, Coastal Division 13, Viet Nam, 1967-68.)
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To: CedarDave

I completely agree. It is a national election; national laws governing it.

And, on top of that, this early voting & provisional ballots have to go. Sorry, but if you cannot get registered on time, too bad. And if you move, get an absentee ballot.

And, if I have to show my DL to get a check cashed and in some banks now, submit a thumbprint; no problem showing an ID to vote.


60 posted on 11/04/2004 6:21:44 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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