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Why do urban centers vote Democrat, and rural Republican?
11-03 | M. Peach

Posted on 11/03/2004 6:23:56 PM PST by M. Peach

I thought I had all the answers regarding politics until my one of my teen aged sons asked me (and yes, I'm proud to say both of them are conservative) why large cities tend to vote Democrat, and rural areas - or mostly the rest of the country, Republican?

Can I get some opinions out there?


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KEYWORDS: bluezone; conservative; democrat; liberal; redzone; republican
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To: Looking4Truth

Excellent post. You're right...it all boils down to Theodore Roosevelt's idea of Rugged Individualism. One group is taught "it takes a village." The other is taught how to shoot a firearm and read the Bible.


221 posted on 11/03/2004 9:59:56 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: hemi dawg

Occupations that promote liberal views, different lifestyles promote different values, higher education leads to more secular values and an elitist mentality...etc.

I could go on, but I don't want to write a big analysis...lol


222 posted on 11/03/2004 10:04:03 PM PST by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: hemi dawg
I end to think cities with their "sophisticated culture" attract/breed folks who think themselves beyond traditional values.
223 posted on 11/03/2004 10:05:28 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: steplock

I'm so lucky someone brought this up!. I was thinking about it myself!. I am still trying to put the pieces together. I am a Spaniard who came to CA 4 years ago, and I think I still don't know USA too well.
1. One factor is that the cities have much higher rates of criminality, prostitution, etc. That is only a very small part of the vote.
2. People in cities like to feel "sophisticated". The ones who don't actually end up to go to the suburban areas. They dress well, eat healthy, and use "the persuasion of words". They are most politically correct and diplomats; prefer to not speak up their minds if they are going to be disliked. Also, they are more egocentric and materialistic and narcissits. Fighting for something else but themselves is just annoying for them. Anything for free from the Government will free up time and resources for their sophisticated lives. Also having morals reduces fun.
3. I can't understand why the minorities in cities feel republicans are going to play hunting with them. Can someone explain?. I am a foreigner in CA, and never, ever felt discriminated for my accent, looks, gender, religion...
4. The media reaches rural areas as much as it reaches cities. So I don't know whether that is a factor.
5. Education. Here, like in Spain, College is, together with the media, the greatest leftist propaganda machinery. I can't understand that people who read, is able to take logical conclusions from facts, can't see the reality of the country/world. Does someone know how that is possible?.
6. About owners: in cities people also own homes; the biggest investment of your life. I don't think that plays a part.

Oh, boy! once the conscience is relaxed it's so hard to go back.


224 posted on 11/03/2004 10:12:25 PM PST by angelanddevil2
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To: rwfromkansas
"higher education leads to more secular values and an elitist mentality"

I know that I'm bucking the trend but it was a college astrophysics class that led me to find God. Our professor was quite careful to never reveal his views. However, when he discussed the beginning of the universe, it became clear that it could not have been created absent an intelligent force. So I owe my salvation to a Berkeley professor, a situation I find delightfully ironic.
225 posted on 11/03/2004 10:12:41 PM PST by radicalamericannationalist (Kurtz had the right answer but the wrong location.)
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To: yavapai

In my opinion everybody should go through a very tough financial hardship once in a lifetime. You become more sensible about what you earn and you have and about relationships. Indeed!.


226 posted on 11/03/2004 10:17:37 PM PST by angelanddevil2
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To: bvw
Living in the city, one is much more likley to become involved with the psychoanalysis community at some point in time.

Meaningless speculation.

If you want to meet really strange crazy people the most rural precincts are where to go. Outside day-to-day social experiences they are easier become estranged from what most accept as in the range of normal behavior. Yet they don't see shrinks -- it's a long drive and the shrinks don't market well -- and concentrated market has more of any service provider, pumblers or shinks and folks using thereof.


To be honest, I think you made my case for me here.  I don't disagree that people in the rural setting might have some problems and perhaps need the services of a counselor or psychologist.  And yes, I agree that those services would be a little harder to come buy.  Exactly.

My point, and it is open to debate, was that the psychological sciences generally advance the touchy-feely interpersonal interactions that foster the idea that you or I would be much better off with the intervention of some outside individual or agency.  All too often these agencies try to excuse away the actions of someone who should be taking personal responsibility for their actions.

I do belive this fosters liberalism and the support of socialist ideals.  This is a very superficial treatment of the subject, but I do believe the theory is valid.

228 posted on 11/03/2004 10:58:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: M. Peach

Flyover country lives in the real world...survival is key. We don't have many good paying jobs, high hopes..we deal with reality.

Urbanites tend to live in a very Plastic world..all is show and energy, most of it slight of hand.


229 posted on 11/03/2004 10:59:44 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: ridesthemiles

,,, thanx for explaining that staged rollout of results. That makes sense now.


230 posted on 11/04/2004 1:00:17 AM PST by shaggy eel
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To: M. Peach

See tagline...


231 posted on 11/04/2004 1:53:41 AM PST by backhoe (2 Americas- Producers, and the Parasites that feed on them...)
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To: DoughtyOne
The "Er" in Jerusalem of ideation and reality means "city" -- a peacable (u salem) city made so by G-d ('J').

The highest levels of human spirit are to be brought to and nourished in the City.

In the city the appreciation that refining and deepening human interrelationships is the equal of improving one's inner self is inescapable.

However in a city -- some cities, some eras -- it is also extremely difficult to avoid the company of the evil and the the wild. And by such inability, by such constant incessant proximity to avoid the poisons that prevent inner growth.

232 posted on 11/04/2004 2:31:06 AM PST by bvw
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To: brianl703
This is always a pretty effective way to taunt demokrats when they get their snoots in the air about all the 'sophisticated' urban areas vote rat and the more rural areas vote Republican. When you point out the high correlation to crime/voting democrat it sends them into hyperventilation.
234 posted on 11/04/2004 6:15:23 AM PST by ottothedog
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To: Lizavetta

Bingo ! I could not have said it more accurately nor more succiently. Those who can't or won't, live in the city. Those who can and will live where they want.


235 posted on 11/04/2004 6:21:12 AM PST by OB1kNOb
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To: WineGuy

Perhaps so. But there is a huge difference between intellect and wisdom. I know of a lot of intellectual idiots (aka MSM for example), but I do not know of any wise idiots.


236 posted on 11/04/2004 6:24:54 AM PST by OB1kNOb
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To: M. Peach; WineGuy; truth_seeker; Axenolith; PatrickHenry
What you write makes sense - I wonder if any study has been done pertaining to I.Q. and/or profession and how it correlates with one's choice of political parties?

Wow...Stephen J. Gould was right! Whenever the economic or political climate is right "reification" will once again rear it's ugly head.

We shouldn't make a priori assumptions here by using soft science. I'm at work so I can't really comment.

Placemarker---PatrickHenry

237 posted on 11/04/2004 6:28:42 AM PST by I got the rope
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To: M. Peach
Urban = dependence.

Suburban = cooperation.

Rural = independence.

238 posted on 11/04/2004 6:59:43 AM PST by jimfree (Cleveland rocks! (My venue for 72 hours in Ohio))
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To: ottothedog

at least M.P. didn't say "inner cities"...


240 posted on 11/04/2004 7:13:06 AM PST by uncitizen (meet the new boss, same as the old boss!)
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