Posted on 10/31/2004 5:53:56 AM PST by Diago
Subj: Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage
Date: 10/31/2004 8:37:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: "Fr. Peter West"
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Kerry Scolds Vatican Over Gay Marriage
Associated Press
BOSTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry scolded the Vatican Friday for saying Catholic politicians like himself have a "moral duty" to oppose laws granting legal rights to gay couples.
"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator. "But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."
The Vatican had urged Catholics and non-Catholics Thursday to unite in campaigning against gay marriages and gay adoptions. The 12-page document, issued by the church, presents a battle plan for politicians confronted with legislation legalizing same-sex unions and rails against gay adoption.
The document calls on Catholic politicians to vote against laws granting legal recognition to homosexual unions and to work to repeal those already on the books.
"To vote in favor of a law so harmful to the common good is gravely immoral," it said, although it didn't specify penalties for Catholics who do.
Kerry opposes gay marriage, saying it is a right reserved in America for men and women, but he has said gay couples should have the same legal rights as husbands and wives.
When it returns from its August recess, the Senate will begin hearings to determine whether new laws are necessary to strengthen the federal definition of marriage as a man and a woman, a Republican senator said Friday.
In 1996, President Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act, which denied federal recognition of same-sex marriages and allowed states to ignore same-sex unions licensed elsewhere.
President Bush said at a White House news conference Wednesday that he believes "a marriage is between a man and a woman, and I think we ought to codify that one way or the other."
Bush spokesman Scott McClellan said the next day that the White House was studying possible responses if pending lawsuits in Massachusetts and New Jersey result in legalization of gay marriage.
Some Republicans in Congress also are pushing for a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriages.
You said: I invite John Kerry to come off of the stage, take off the mask, and show the real self.
Do you REALLY want to see all that Botulism Toxin dripping from his face if he actually did take off his mask???
His REAL self is a plastic-girly-man that would scare small children and cause a projectile regurgitation from adults.
Kerry has a choice. He can be a Catholic or a Politician but evidently his Catholic beliefs and political beliefs don't jive so he can and should give up one or the other.
ping!!!
BOSTON - Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry scolded the Vatican Friday for saying Catholic politicians like himself have a "moral duty" to oppose laws granting legal rights to gay couples.
"I believe in the church and I care about it enormously," said the Massachusetts senator. "But I think that it's important to not have the church instructing politicians. That is an inappropriate crossing of the line in America."
I was thinking the same thing.
Kerry's arrogance might just be his undoing.
The Church is not amused Senator. How dare you elitist, arrogant, posturing POS tell the Vatican what they should or should not support. The Church does not bend to the whims of what is popular, they keep the Word of God.
I posted this morning on another thread... seems pertinent here as well...
There have always been people with low moral standards, we are all sinners, but the 60s seemed to be the era when it became acceptable to make ones morality a public issue. Shame took on little meaning (no shame for anything... that's who I am!).
For a very long time I have thought there is special significance to the Biblical references to Sodom and Gommorah. That seemed to be the time when homosexuality was flaunted. No one made a big deal of...
"the men of Sodom, both old and young, ...from every quarter, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot... 'where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out TO US that we may knem them carnally'" [Gen 19:4].
Things have not reached quite that far, yet, but that type of environment seemed to be the limit to which God would allow men (people) to go. Then came judgment.
It is also interesting to note from that passage that Lot, a just man, seemed to be much like the 'silent majority' we see today. He knew it was wrong, and protested in a way I would not, but was content to live in the city despite his knowledge of evil.
Kerry is anti the America of our founders....it is our heritage that our religious leaders not only instruct our leaders but that they turn not only to them in times of decision but seek the will of almighty God in humility...and ask our religious leaders to not only pray for them but to pray with them...
We have a national day of prayer...and prayer breakfasts....and chaplains in Washington DC and in the military....
In the history of our nation no president has ever been raised to that position other than it was ordained by almighty God
If Kerry were one tenth the 'religious man' he claims to be...he would know this...every 8th grader who has attended Catechism class knows this...
Our own national heritage Kerry denies...and hates....
He is the Marxist his earthy father taught him to be and he is the liar his spiritual father taught him to be
imo
I am Catholic and have voted Republican for 30 years,
What the Catechism of the Catholic Church says about homosexuality
| 2357 Homosexuality refers to relations between men or between women who experience an exclusive or predominant sexual attraction toward persons of the same sex. It has taken a great variety of forms through the centuries and in different cultures. Its psychological genesis remains largely unexplained. Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity, tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered." They are contrary to the natural law. They close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved. |
BTW, Welcome to FR, only a few months!
The proverbial point, once kerry passed his teenage years he became a threat to America and our way of life. The battle trumpets are sounding let us go to the polls this Tuesday and deliver this election to President Bush. "Let's win this one for the "Gipper." Bush/Cheney 2004 Let's Roll!!!! 4 more years in the clear.
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If you listen to Hitler's speeches, especially the early ones, he was claiming to be a very religious Christian, and prayed publicly for G_d's blessing on his "struggle", he fooled millions of people, just like Kerry is doing today...
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Kerry is a professional liar. He knows the difference between good and evil ...
He chooses evil.
That was clever, and funny.
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