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Buzz Patterson: October Surprise? The Truth Behind Kerry's Military Discharge. What's Kerry Hiding?:
Human Events Online (via SwiftVets head's up) ^ | 10-26-04 | Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson

Posted on 10/28/2004 10:31:26 PM PDT by cgk

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61 posted on 10/29/2004 5:21:35 AM PDT by kimmie7 (I saw a Kerry bumper sticker on a trash can today. FINALLY, truth in advertising!)
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To: cgk
There are at least 100 pages, promising to be much more revealing, still unseen.

We will never see them.

The fix is in.

It has been in.

John F'n Kerry is a worse liar, traitor, horse's ass and all around POS than Billy Boy Clintoon ever thought he could be.

If this goofy buffoon gets into office, there will be anarchy at some point.

We are living in dangerous times.

62 posted on 10/29/2004 5:36:17 AM PDT by OldSmaj (Islam is a false religion. It's adherents and followers are doomed to hell.)
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To: cgk

Excellent summary. LtCol Buzz did not mention that the fact that Kerry's medals were re-issued which indicates that he got a Bad Conduct Discharge that rescinded them.


63 posted on 10/29/2004 5:38:09 AM PDT by JoeGar
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To: andyk

When you finish your active duty service you are given a DD-214 and a Honorable Discharge worthy of framing.When you finish your inactive reserve service you receive another Honorable Discharge with the DD-214 adjustments on the back of the Discharge.
I have all three 2 H.D.'s & DD-214.
You get only one ( 1 ) DD-214.
You get only one ( 1 ) citation with your medal.
Nothing I have was ever reviewed by a board of officers or approved by the president unless it was rubber stamped on the front of my H.D.
Wonder if Kerry ever tried to join the VFW or American Legion?


64 posted on 10/29/2004 5:38:12 AM PDT by hubno (hub)
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To: cgk
Patterson nicely wraps it all up and puts a perfect bow on it.

The MSM will refuse to even acknowledge it's there, much less open it. They're in the bag for Kerry.

65 posted on 10/29/2004 5:48:21 AM PDT by Gritty ("If Islamists seize the schoolhouse and kill your kids,‘nuisance’ doesn’t quite cover it"-Mark Steyn)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Now five days before the election Tom Brokaw is stating Bush has a higher IQ than John Kerry.

Now Tom can say he isn't bias. One Brokaw for Bush negates 1.5 million Brokaws for Kerry in Tom's mind. By the way, Kerry is a hell of a lot smarter than Brokaw so where does that leave Tom when compared to Bush?

66 posted on 10/29/2004 5:48:38 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: OldSmaj

67 posted on 10/29/2004 5:49:31 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Kerry hunting is like Bush going to a gay disco just to prove he's not homophobic (thanks QLA))
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To: hipaatwo

I have a hunch that Kerry and his Democrat mentors in
high places have helped him to create such a MAZE out of
his military records that it would take a special computer
program to figure it out.


68 posted on 10/29/2004 5:49:57 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: andyk

I'm having the same problem. As far as I know, you get one DD214. I got mine when I was released from active duty (1953). I still had inactive reserve obligation and at the end of that term, I received a discharge.

The DD215 is used to "correct" the DD214. In Kerry's case it looked like he just wanted more medals put on the record, although he left the "V" on the Silver Star.

I'm confused.


69 posted on 10/29/2004 5:55:35 AM PDT by jackbill
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To: PeoplesRepublicOfWashington

- - - and, too, this bunch of people have been allowed to
do a slash and burn job on the Vietnam War until it has
become labeled a "shame" that people just want to forget,
unfortunately. If someone doesn't re-label it correctly
NOW, it will only keep on being sullied. The Swiftvets
have made a good start; now someone else also needs to get
into rewriting the rewritten leftist history of the Vietnam War. I'm not a big G. Gordon Liddy fan, but he was talking on this subject one day on his show a few years ago.

Kerry's ilk managed to band with the Communists and the
politicians to disallow a victory over the Communists in
Vietnam, lie and label the Vietnam War according to their
definition, demoralize the United States, and come out of
it as political *stars*.

Kerry didn't bargain on the upstart Bush when he was making
his plans all those years ago. By the time, his plans were
to come to fruition, there was to be no competition who
could overshadow him. I think Clinton may have come out of
left field at about the time Kerry had probably originally
meant to emerge. I don't know who all I think is involved
in the "grand scheme" with Kerry, but I don't think he has
accomplished it by himself. Payback time would come with
a Kerry Presidency.


70 posted on 10/29/2004 6:02:09 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: Rebelbase

Hope he is absorped..


71 posted on 10/29/2004 6:11:14 AM PDT by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry( back to Bedlam,Massachusetts,and close the U.N.)
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To: Howlin

BUMP - This quote says it all!


72 posted on 10/29/2004 6:21:24 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: cgk

I hope the 'October surprise' is Kerry's original (dishonorable) discharge. His entire campaign will collapse. Only 3 days left in October. Standing by...


73 posted on 10/29/2004 6:25:53 AM PDT by Semper Vigilantis (Freedom is like a credit card. If you don't make the payments it will be taken away.)
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To: OldSmaj
We will never see them.

I believe you are correct, SarMajor. Way too volatile. Kerry and his allies will have done everything possible to burry that stinking corpse. Only his own kind turning on him and backed by a once-friendly MSM could create a scenario with enough pressure to force his hand. Even then, I think he'd slink away through a resignation of whatever office he held before letting them see the light of day.

Dear God, what has America come to that a scoundrel of this caliber can run for the highest office in the land without being shamed into obscurity?

Bookmarking this one for the record.

74 posted on 10/29/2004 6:28:27 AM PDT by LTCJ (CBS, all your Boyd Cycles are belong to us.)
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To: Howlin
I don't know how they've done it, because my record is not public. So I don't know where you're getting that from.

I was tired of hearing him say "All of my records that are there are there."

75 posted on 10/29/2004 6:29:31 AM PDT by Samwise (Proud to be a Security Mom married to a NASCAR Dad)
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To: cgk

If Kerry were the Republican, the records would have been leaked yesterday.


76 posted on 10/29/2004 6:34:50 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: OldSmaj
"If this goofy buffoon gets into office, there will be anarchy at some point."

" dangerous times."

I find this all beyond believe, why would his party even put him up for election with all this stuff behind him.

If elected is this how they'll control him, threat of prison and disgrace if he misbehaves? This doesn't look good for America if he's elected. Think UN, one worlders.
77 posted on 10/29/2004 6:43:50 AM PDT by OldSgt. (USMC, Nam Vet, HMM-165)
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To: N8VTXNinWV

Major (er, Lt Col) PING, Louie!


78 posted on 10/29/2004 6:52:23 AM PDT by shezza (Watch "Stolen Honor" -- and then wonder how even one American could ever vote for JF'nK)
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To: jackbill
In my twenty years in the Air Force and through the thousands of people I came to know and serve with, I have never heard of anyone in the military having more than one DD 214 with one discharge date. Kerry, according to his own campaign, has at least four.

As far as I know, you get one DD214. I got mine when I was released from active duty (1953). I still had inactive reserve obligation and at the end of that term, I received a discharge.

Not quite. Lots of people in the National Guard get multiple DD214s, but they get a final "rollup" DD214 at the end of their service. I have four DD214s: 1 when I got off active duty on 6 JUL 99, one when I was de-Federalized after Bosnia in SEP 01, one when I got out of the National Guard in JAN 04, and one final one that covers everything, also dated JAN 04.

Minor point, but it *is* possible to have mulitple DD214s, but there should still be the ONE rollup DD214.

79 posted on 10/29/2004 6:55:56 AM PDT by Terabitten (Kapu'a'a or Kapu'a'a'a?)
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To: Tragically Single
Minor point, but it *is* possible to have mulitple DD214s, but there should still be the ONE rollup DD214.

Things may have changed over the years but in my case, my DD214 (separation from active duty) would not have had much, if any change, six years later when I got my Discharge.

In Buzz's case, I suspect his Discharge and DD214 came at the same time because he "retired" and had no reserve obligation.

I'd like to see someone do a timeline of "what should have happened" in Kerry's career and what actually did, as far as can be determined.

Also, it would be nice if someone in MSM would ask Kerry a couple of questions. But they won't and it's too late now.

80 posted on 10/29/2004 7:05:47 AM PDT by jackbill
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