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Kristol: N.Y. Times and CBS 'Conspiring' With Kerry to Defeat Bush
newsmax.com ^ | Wednesday, Oct. 27, 2004 | newsmax.com

Posted on 10/27/2004 1:29:30 PM PDT by crushelits

What a treat on "Fox & Friends" this morning: William Kristol hammered the pro-Democrat New York Times and pro-Democrat CBS for "colluding" and "conspiring" with Sen. John Kerry to topple President Bush.

Even Kerry's own handlers now admit they have no proof to back up the issue the Democrats concocted with their media allies.

Kristol notes in his new column for the Weekly Standard: "Pressed on Tuesday afternoon about the accuracy of the allegations on Fox's Big Story with John Gibson, Richard Holbrooke, a senior adviser to the Kerry campaign, said: 'You don't know the truth and I don't know the truth.' He later underscored this point: 'I don't know the truth.'"

Vice President Dick Cheney, campaigning today in Kissimmee, Fla., noted that Kerry "doesn't know" and that Holbrooke "admitted as much." He reiterated that "John Kerry will say and do anything except give our troops the backing and praise they deserve."

Kristol continued: "That minor issue hasn't kept the Kerry campaign from creating a television ad based on what may well be untruthful claims. ... Shouldn't he at least make sure that such a charge is true?"

But in the Democrat playbook there's no entry for truth. The party's longtime strategy is to repeat a lie until people believe it. Thanks to their media collaborators, and President Bush's wimpy refusal to denounce the Times and "60 Minutes" and Kerry and John Edwards, the stunt could succeed.

At least a few voices are speaking out. "Kerry gins up his attack machine based on a flawed New York Times story," the Republican National Committee noted Tuesday.

Richard Lessner, executive director of American Conservative Union, blasted the story as "a cheap, baseless and partisan hit-job on President Bush" and pointed out that "neither the Times nor CBS has much interest in reporting the facts."

FrontPage Magazine's War Blog noted today: "Now that the story is both a fraud, and at the same time confirmation that Saddam had (1) very dangerous stuff and (2) WMD might have been spirited away as war threatened or broke out, the Bush-Cheney 2004 campaign must be welcoming the complete incompetence of the Kerry forces, who have once again decided to charge uphill into the face of withering down-hill fire, on terrain chosen by the Bush-Cheney 2004 team, namely, who would be a better Commander-in-Chief in a conflict where the bad guys – Saddam and his terrorist allies – have access to tons and tons of RMX?"



TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: cbs; conspiringkerry; defeatbush; kristol; nytimes

1 posted on 10/27/2004 1:29:30 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: crushelits

Nice to see Billy Kristol the gay-in-the-third-definition McCainiac hitting on this issue.


2 posted on 10/27/2004 1:50:29 PM PDT by Clemenza (This thread needs more cowbell!)
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To: crushelits
With Kristol saying this, there will be more open discussion in the MSM......slowly but surely. It'll be openly discussed on Fox (as here), CNN, MSNBC, NBC.......potentially PBS.

The fact that the MSM will cross the threshold of cross-criticism is the first step in the competitive drive toward honest bias.

3 posted on 10/27/2004 1:51:37 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: Clemenza
Pro war Kristol acts as if he isn't so sure anymore, I guess it's "pundit perogative" to vacillate with the wind, he's a worthless idiot, I wish Fox would replace him with someone who's really on Bush's side since that's suposed to be his role.

IMHO he likes to socialize too much with liberals to really offend them. Total BS

4 posted on 10/27/2004 1:59:37 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((Part of the Reagan legacy is to re-elect G.W. Bush))
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To: crushelits

Two points: 1) When will someone with the means and the evidence challenge CBS for it's license "to broadcast in the public interest?" 2) When will traditional democrats take notice that their party has been hijacked by Stalinists, who are more than willing to use lies and intimidation to advance their march to power?


5 posted on 10/27/2004 2:13:12 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: Continental Soldier
1). Never
2). See above answer.
6 posted on 10/27/2004 2:15:40 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness (Quick, act casual. If they sense scorn and ridicule, they'll flee..)
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To: Mariner

Unfortunately, I am afraid that the MSM will not jump on the bandwagon until Nov. 3 or 4.


7 posted on 10/27/2004 2:23:47 PM PDT by Conservative Infidel
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To: Mariner
The fact that the MSM will cross the threshold of cross-criticism is the first step in the competitive drive toward honest bias.

This is one of the really great things about the new media. Back in the old days, Big Media could do this crap with impunity. Now we not only hold them accountable, but their fraud is allowed to become part of the conventional wisdom, because it is not allowed to die as it used to be. The market is working, and I can't wait to see how the new media ultimately shakes out.

8 posted on 10/27/2004 2:29:30 PM PDT by lawnguy (Those who beat their swords into plow shares, are destined to be ruled by those who don't.)
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To: Mariner
The fact that the MSM will cross the threshold of cross-criticism is the first step in the competitive drive toward honest bias.

This is one of the really great things about the new media. Back in the old days, Big Media could do this crap with impunity. Now we not only hold them accountable, but their fraud is allowed to become part of the conventional wisdom, because it is not allowed to die as it used to be. The market is working, and I can't wait to see how the new media ultimately shakes out.

9 posted on 10/27/2004 2:30:21 PM PDT by lawnguy (Those who beat their swords into plow shares, are destined to be ruled by those who don't.)
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To: Continental Soldier

Actually CBS does not have a license to broadcast. The individual stations hold the licenses. When local TV stations broadcast a bare-breasted Janet Jackson at the Super Bowl via a network feed, it is the individual licensees who are violating FCC regulations by broadcasting it.


10 posted on 10/27/2004 2:34:27 PM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: Continental Soldier
2) When will traditional democrats take notice that their party has been hijacked by Stalinists, who are more than willing to use lies and intimidation to advance their march to power?

I can answer the above question. I did in 1992 right after Clinton was in office. No DUmmy, I recognized Marx/Lenin when I saw him in action and left that party forever.
Nope, didn't see it during the campaign when he was pretending to be a moderate, but sure saw it in his inauguration speech.

11 posted on 10/27/2004 2:35:32 PM PDT by ladyinred (John Kerry has a plan to change the national symbol of an Eagle to a Chicken)
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To: Mister Baredog
NOTE: I agree with everything you said. BUT...

Last night on FNC, or yesterday morning on FOX & Friends (days & nights are starting to run together now), Kristol said he already voted for Bush.

Personally I detest him and wouldn't trust him to walk my dog --- and I don't HAVE a dog.

12 posted on 10/27/2004 2:51:51 PM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: Mariner

...."potentially PBS"

Ok, no offense meant but, please step away from the crack-pipe.


13 posted on 10/27/2004 2:55:01 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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To: Mariner

...."potentially PBS"

Ok, no offense meant but, please step away from the crack-pipe.


14 posted on 10/27/2004 2:56:06 PM PDT by gathersnomoss
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