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CBS, NY Times Appear to Plan 'October Surprise' Regarding Missing Iraqi Explosives
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Posted on 10/27/2004 4:47:59 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- Despite being highly criticized last month for running a story using forged memos regarding President George W. Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard, CBS's "60 Minutes," along with the New York Times, is again at the center of an election year scandal regarding missing explosives in Iraq.

At the heart of the controversy are reports that both CBS and the New York Times were working on news stories which would focus on the missing explosives in the context that the explosives disappeared due to inadequate security provided by coalition forces following the fall of Baghdad. The segments would thus be critical of President Bush and his handling of post-war Iraq.

According to CBS News executive producer Jeff Fager, an announcement by the interim Iraqi government to the International Atomic Energy Agency that a cache of 380 tons of explosives in a storage depot at Al Qaqaa have been missing since former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein was ousted from power was going to be revealed on this Sunday's episode of "60 Minutes."

"[Ou]r plan was to run the story on October 31, but it became clear that it wouldn't hold," Fager said in a statement.

The New York Times beat CBS to the punch by releasing their story on Monday. Under the headline "Huge Cache of Explosives Vanished From Site in Iraq," the New York Times said that Iraqi interim government warned the U.S. and the IAEA that the explosives were missing from "one of Iraq's most sensitive former military installations."

In a statement which implies that coalition forces did not provide adequate security, the story reads, "The huge facility, called Al Qaqaa, was supposed to be under American military control but is now a no man's land, still picked over by looters as recently as Sunday. United Nations weapons inspectors had monitored the explosives for many years, but White House and Pentagon officials acknowledge that the explosives vanished sometime after the American-led invasion last year."

The news story goes on to credit CBS News and "60 Minutes" by stating, "This article was reported in cooperation with the CBS News program "60 Minutes." "60 Minutes" first obtained information on the missing explosives."

Many political observers believe CBS was planning to unveil this as an "October surprise" in an effort to defeat President Bush in the November 2 election by airing the segment on Sunday, October 31.

Democratic presidential nominee Sen. John F. Kerry reacted to this story by describing the missing explosives as "one of the great blunders of Iraq and one of the great blunders of this administration," arguing that Bush did not keep enough troops in Iraq to secure these explosives from being removed and falling into the hands of terrorists.

"George W. Bush who talks tough and brags about making America safer has once again failed to deliver," Kerry remarked on Tuesday. "After being warned about the danger of major stockpiles of explosives in Iraq, this administration failed to guard those stockpiles -- where nearly 380 tons of highly explosive weapons were kept. Today we learned that these explosives are missing, unaccounted for, and could be in the hands of terrorists."

Yet, as reported by Talon News on Monday, a segment by NBC News on Monday directly countered Kerry's claims that the weapons disappeared because of low post-war troop levels, but instead shows that the HMX and RDX explosives were not even present when coalition forces first arrived at Al Qaqaa during Operation Iraqi Freedom.

NBC News confirmed that an embedded reporter with the Army's 101st Airborne on April 10, 2003, one day after Iraq was liberated from Saddam Hussein, said the explosives were already gone when coalition forces arrived.

"[T]hese troops never found the nearly 380 tons of some of the most powerful conventional explosives, called HMX and RDX, which is now missing," the NBC reporter said at the time.

Bush campaign spokesman Steve Schmidt said Kerry's attacks against the president have "been proven false" and shown to be "baseless."

"[Kerry] said American troops did not secure the explosives, when the explosives were already missing," Schmidt exclaimed in a statement.

Schmidt added that Kerry "neglects to mention the 400,000 tons of weapons and explosives [in Iraq] that are either destroyed or in the process of being destroyed." Speaking to supporters, Vice President Dick Cheney added, "If our troops had not gone into Iraq as John Kerry apparently thinks they should not have, that is 400,000 tons of weapons and explosives that would be in the hands of Saddam Hussein, who would still be sitting in his palace instead of jail."

Despite clear evidence presented by NBC News that the explosives were already missing from Al Qaqaa, Kerry senior adviser Joe Lockhart said Tuesday that the Bush campaign is "distorting" the information.

"In a shameless attempt to cover up its failure to secure 380 tons of highly explosive material in Iraq, the White House is desperately flailing in an effort to escape blame," Lockhart expressed to supporters, although he never explained how the Bush administration was doing this. "It is the latest pathetic excuse from an administration that never admits a mistake, no matter how disastrous."


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1 posted on 10/27/2004 4:48:00 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: All
Why GIs Didn't Hunt Explosives

A Look at Explosives Missing in Iraq

Tons Of Explosives Missing In Iraq



2 posted on 10/27/2004 4:51:10 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 6 Days Until November 2nd, 2004 - DOWN TO THE WIRE!)
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To: Happy2BMe; All
Let me get this straight. The NYT issues a bogus story on missing explosives. Kerry then makes it a key part of his campaign. Then the NYT reports on the new theme of Kerry's campaign. Then Kerry makes an ad touting the NYT story.
 
Here's a fast grab of all the links & relevant commentary I have so far:
 
  Feb. 2003 UN Report: Saddam Moving Explosives From Al-Qaqaa
 
 Urgent Warning on Iraqi Cache Issued in 1995
 
  Kerry slipped in 2nd debate, gave hint of CBS / NYT explosives story to come!
 
 CBS eyed '60 Minutes' Bush bombshell
 
 NYTrogate, Tora Bora, Put Kerry Back In His Element: Slamming the Military
 
Media Shamelessly Shilling for Kerry and Kerry Brazenly Lying
 
 
Invitation to a Defrauding (links CBS's 2003 article : U.S. Searches 'Suspicious' Iraqi Site
 
 Kerry slipped in 2nd debate, gave hint of CBS / NYT explosives story to come!
 
Media Watchdog: 'October Surprise' Blows Up in Faces of NY Times, CBS News
 
 Kerry Ad Promoting LIES about Missing Explosives Is LIVE 
 
 Be prepared [call to action on Kerry ad based on explosive lies]
 I've read the Kerry ad. It may be built on deceptions and half truths but it's an effective ad and it will require not rebutting but refutation.
 President Bush needs to make a statement; have a press conference - something straight from the President himself and NOW. . .stop the lies. . .stop the misinformation. . .stop the Kerry camp in it's tracks. . .NOW; by stepping up and out. . .taking advantage of his position as President so speak directly to the people. He should have a 'fireside' everynight. . .or Press conference every day. . .
 NBC Video vs. Kerry Campaign Video... ~4:41pm~ EST
SEEMS INCREDIBLE THAT NEARLY 24 HOURS AFTER NYTIMES STORY IS BLOWN AWAY - JOHN KERRY CONTINUES TO USE IT ON THE TRAIL: The Daily Recycler has done everyone in the blogosphere a tremendous service by editing together Kerry's specific statements and the actual truth from NBC News. WATCH THE VIDEO HERE (1:27), LISTEN HERE TO THE 3 HOUR EXPOSE we did on air today.
 
 **CALLING ALL 101st AIRBORNE MEMBERS, AIRTIME TO TELL YOUR STORY**
 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT [10/26 05:23 PM] --
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1257884/posts
 YET ANOTHER SERVICEMAN REFUTES THE TIMES ACCOUNT
 
 Toronto Star continues to lead with false weapons report
 
 Hanoi Kerry attacks 101st Airborne in "Ammogate" smear ad.
 
 
 60 MINS PLANNED BUSH MISSING EXPLOSIVES STORY FOR ELECTION EVE  "Do they have something else to spring on us on Thursday? That's supposed to be the time to have the maximum impact on the election...that's when the DUI story was released in 2000."
 Question seems to be IS THIS THEIR BEST SHOT?? I'm confident it won't be their last.
 
Missing Explosives Story Missing Facts
NYTrogate--
  http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/10/nytrogate.html
 
 

Rush just read a CNN story from 1/2003 "Al Aqaa a WMD site"...anyone have a link (vanity)
  The Iraqi explosives story CBS and the New York Times ran yesterday is a fraud. These weapons were not there when US troops went to this site in 2003. The IAEA and its head, the anti-American Mohammed El Baradei, leaked a false letter on this issue to the media to embarrass the Bush administration.  Here you go:

Link to CNN Story

 http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/01/24/sprj.irq.inspections/index.html

Here is a link to DRUDGE story on it:

Link to DRUDGE story

 Fox also had an article about Qa Qaa Site:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,83252,00.html

 
 UN Report in 2003 notes Iraq "lost" HMX & converted remaining HMX stocks into "industrial explosive"  Uh oh, looks like the MSM got caught with it's pants down again.
 
 

As I said yesterday, Joe Lockhart on the Kerry-Edwards conference call yesterday said the missing explosives: "Central issue for the rest of the campaign."

This is their October Surprise and they have nothing else but vote fraud. They have to go with this story no matter if it is a lie or not. They have nothing else. Desperation has set in for the Dems and it is blowing up in their face.

We in the "New Media" need to keep telling everyone we know that this story is a "LIE" and Kerry is a liar as well as MSM

 Edwards rips Bush for lost Iraq explosives (Will Edwards apologize now?)  I have been contacting the media sources that are continuing the missing explosives lie trying to pressure them to issue retractions and to get Kerry Campaign people to comment on the latest information about this story that they have been using as a political attack against President Bush. I urge you all to do the same.
 
 
 Why don't they just call it the Oct 25th Surprise, since they have a new one everday.
 This is not the real October surprise- it's too early for the critical hit; there's a whole week for the story to be shot at and sunk - The real attack comes at the end of week and is directed at Bush's character, a follow-up to the Kitty Kelly and Dan Rather types of attack.
 
  THE DITTOCAM IS ON! Live Rush Thread   Rush is ripping CBS, NYT, and Kerry a new one. (LOVING IT)  
I have a feeling that this is going to hurt CBS and Kerry in the long run. I am glad that NBC came forward with their footage showing the explosives were moved before we took Baghdad. You would think that CBS and Dan Rather would have learned their lesson after Memo-gate-- In a lot of workplaces today (and for the next week) people are fixating on the election. It's topic #1 in conversations. So even if the MSM doesn't get on it, those of us of the PJ platoons can burn peoples ears off at work about it.
 
 
 "what's coming out now is just old useless info. Am I wrong?"
I believe you are correct, if they had anything, anything at all they would have used it by now. They are recycling old news- remember the national guard story they tried to resurrect and put some extra pepper on it by sending in FAKE documents. Again the bloggers came to the rescue and were the first to prove the documents as false. Everything they have tried to throw at this president has fallen flat on its face-
 
 "Obviously this isn't a case of Bush failing to "guard" the explosives. By the time our troops got there they weren't there to guard."
Another CLASSIC case of guilt by accusation. The truth didn't matter, only the accusation. And once again, the MSM jackals run full tilt with the story, without adequate corroboration, as long as they had any chance of smearing President Bush. The decades long practice of MSM lies, smears, and propaganda against Republicans continues.
 
 
 
 Drudge now reporting Iraq depot story was shopped to CBS' 60 minutes before reported by NYT   60 Minutes wanted to report this garbage on election eve...
 Dear God these people at CBS and in the MSM are desperate to bring down a sitting POTUS...at any cost. I suspect anything and everything reported as NEWS for the last half century from the MSM...
 
 Kerry wants answers on missing explosives
 It's on the CNN website http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/10/26/iraq.explosives/index.html I sent a copy to myself, just in case it disappears.
 "Are you keeping up with this on the thread about Hanoi Documents: Two recently discovered documents captured from the Vietnamese communists during the Vietnam War strongly support the contention that a close link existed between the Hanoi regime and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) while John Kerry served as the group's leading national spokesman"
 See page 25 of THE FBI FILES
 More to investigate for the John F. Kerry Timeline.
 Here's the direct link to the WinterSoldier.com article that this WorldNetDaily article is summarizing:
 What ironies! Bob Woodward and the press fought to bring to light the Watergate facts. Today, the MSM consciously avoids the facts and it is left to ordinary patriots to uncover the rot. Well done.
 Link
 I've known all this (not about Kerry, specifically, but the war protestors) since my days in military intelligence. I never thought I'd see the day that a 'useful idiot' or worse, communist mole, would be nominated for the highest office in the land.
 

3 posted on 10/27/2004 5:01:14 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: backhoe
I never thought I'd see the day that a 'useful idiot' or worse, communist mole, would be nominated for the highest office in the land.

Somehow, you must have missed that special time, "The Clinton Years".

4 posted on 10/27/2004 5:14:35 AM PDT by Gritty ("You gotta start travelling with a bodyguard. Liberals are out of their minds!-Ann Coulter)
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To: Gritty

Maybe the explosives left with the WMD's?


5 posted on 10/27/2004 5:36:23 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Control the information to society and you control society.)
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To: Happy2BMe

I think that the DNC and the Kerry Campaign were left off the list of conspriators . . . especially in light of the fact that Kerry was able to release a new ad with this as the theme on the same day the story "broke" . . .


6 posted on 10/27/2004 5:41:45 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: Happy2BMe

What a bunch of hypocrits

They claim we shouldn't have been there to begin with


7 posted on 10/27/2004 5:48:28 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: An.American.Expatriate; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve; Grampa Dave; Prime Choice; Registered; ...
Backhoe wrote:

"Let me get this straight. The NYT issues a bogus story on missing explosives. Kerry then makes it a key part of his campaign. Then the NYT reports on the new theme of Kerry's campaign. Then Kerry makes an ad touting the NYT story."

___________________________________________

Backhoe has em by the 'nads - PING.

8 posted on 10/27/2004 5:48:40 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 6 Days Until November 2nd, 2004 - DOWN TO THE WIRE!)
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To: Happy2BMe
My email to the FCC...

To: Campaignlaw
Subject: Kerry false/misleading statements...

The Kerry/Edwards campaign intends to run an ad entitled "Obligation." This ad is based on demonstrably false information, in violation of the Federal Communications Act, and the Kerry/Edwards campaign must be enjoined from running this ad in any medium within the ambit of the FCC's regulatory authority.

The television ad is based on a discredited story that ran in the New York Times, asserting that a large cache of explosives went missing in Iraq after the war began -- and placing the blame on President Bush. This story is absolutely, and unambiguously false.

The National Broadcasting Company ('NBC'), via its embedded reporters in place prior to the war, has reported, currently and previously, that these weapons were missing PRIOR to U.S. presence in Iraq. Hence, the ad is false, misleading, and must be enjoined from airing. Plainly stated, there is no causal nexus between the disappearance of this cache and U.S. presence or action, as falsely asserted in this advertisement.

I trust the FCC will investigate this pressing matter promptly and take the appropriate action.

FCC Reply...

Although the FCC licenses broadcast stations, we have virtually no control over the content of what they broadcast. That's because of the First Amendment's freedom of expression and the no-censorship provision of the Communications Act. Thus, we cannot tell stations what to air and what not to air. (A notable exception to that is obscenity and indecency, because the U.S. Supreme Court has held that obscenity is not protected speech under the First Amendment.) Consequently, in most cases, it is within the station's discretion to determine what it will air. A key exception to that is candidate advertisements. Section 315 of the Communications Act prohibits stations from censoring the content of candidate-provided programming. Therefore, both the FCC and the stations are without power to censor the content of candidates' advertising - even if the information included is false. Moreover, stations are forbidden from adding a disclaimer advising viewers of the falsity of such an ad.

Sincerely,
Mark Berlin
Policy Division (political office)
Media Bureau

9 posted on 10/27/2004 5:58:47 AM PDT by harpu
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To: backhoe
A lot of damage has been done already.

Some people heard the false reports and believed them. Maybe even made up their minds based on what they heard in the media on Monday.

The retractions from the mainstream media may come too late (like post-election), if at all.

Not everyone uses the Internet to check their news. This is unfortunate, because it enables the mainstream media to disseminate propaganda (to some people) and get away with it.

We must understand that most people do not have access to the information that we have here on FreeRepublic (or they refuse to search it out). This is quite dangerous because if they are relying on the mainstream media for their news, they are not getting the full story.

The challenge for us is not to convince ourselves, but to convince our unsuspecting neighbors that they are "being had" by the mainstream media.

10 posted on 10/27/2004 6:03:05 AM PDT by wai-ming
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To: Happy2BMe
NY SLIMES/CBS QAQAAGATE CONTINUES TO SPEW THE BS:
11 posted on 10/27/2004 6:03:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Happy2BMe
IncPen's great graphic art with CBS's eye with the truth about the Rathering Net.


12 posted on 10/27/2004 6:04:43 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (When will ABCNNBCBS & the MSM fishwraps stop Rathering to America? Answer: NEVER!)
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To: Happy2BMe
CBS, the NYT and the expletive-deleted UN through its IAEA stooge, El Baradei.
13 posted on 10/27/2004 6:04:44 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Happy2BMe

Does anyone remember a posting on FR about a week ago in which an obvious Kerry-hole Dem operative wrote an article (forget which publication) telling the libs to remain calm because there would be a "devastating" October surprise unveiled in the media this week which would knock GWB out of the race??

I remember it clearly. It was posted around Oct. 19 or 18. People here on FR were scoffing at the author or poster, I forget which.

Anyway, this explosives story was probably it, and just shows how in-bed the partisan media has become with Kerry-hole/Democratic operatives.

After all, if some low-life Dem/Lib blogger had access to this NYTimes story, then the strategy on how to take down the President was obviouosly circulating through liberal circles for some time.


14 posted on 10/27/2004 6:09:46 AM PDT by Edit35
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To: Happy2BMe
What frosts me is that the big advertisers continue to spend millions with CBS no matter how corrupt the network is at the top. They just don't care, do they?

The wealthy executives of the great corporations are one of a kind with the wealthy executives of the alphabet networks and the wealthy executives of the famous advertising agencies.

They wine and dine each, country-club with each other, their wives socialize with each other, they all network with each other and even share interlocking directorates with each other.

The public, stockholders and the well-being of our country be damned.

Hopefully, this evil cabal will weaken somewhat with the breaking scandals and the noble efforts of bloggers and patriotic web sites.

I hope to see some improvement in my lifetime, but I'm not holding my breath. Most of these elites are leftists and stick together like Krazy Glue. They are almost impenetratable.

I've heard of no advertisers withdrawing from CBS despite its proven corruption. Has anyone?

Leni

15 posted on 10/27/2004 6:22:41 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Happy2BMe
I think this was Hillary Oct Surprise she talked about 6 mo ago. How many democrats does it take to create a lie just one they are all liars.
16 posted on 10/27/2004 6:54:26 AM PDT by solo gringo (Don't be a girlie man vote Bush/Cheney in/04)
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To: backhoe
Duelfer also said U.N. weapons inspectors recommended in 1995 that the high explosives be destroyed because of their potential use in a nuclear weapons program.

The International Atomic Energy Agency instead ordered the explosives stored in sealed bunkers 30 miles south of the Iraqi capital. The last time the IAEA verified that the bunkers were still sealed was in March of last year, about a month before the first U.S. troops moved into the complex as they pushed toward Baghdad.


17 posted on 10/27/2004 6:56:13 AM PDT by Fatalis (The Libertarian Party is to politics as Esperanto is to linguistics.)
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To: Happy2BMe

Rumor has it that at the joint CBS-NY Times Holloween party all of the news people will be dressing up like journalists.


18 posted on 10/27/2004 6:59:08 AM PDT by You Dirty Rats (WE WILL WIN WITH W - Isara)
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To: Happy2BMe

"NBC News confirmed that an embedded reporter with the Army's 101st Airborne on April 10, 2003, one day after Iraq was liberated from Saddam Hussein, said the explosives were already gone when coalition forces arrived."

So much for their "surprise" to hurt Bush.

They'll just have to dream up another paranoid lie as a "surprise".


19 posted on 10/27/2004 7:39:16 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Happy2BMe; backhoe; yall; Everybody
Everybody: Encourage EVERYONE to vote for Bush !!

All GOP: Go to the polls, take a few friends and vote for Bush !!



[Expletive deleted] !!!


20 posted on 10/27/2004 8:31:21 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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