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Scientists zero in on why time flows in one direction
eurekalert/University of Chicago ^ | 26-Oct-2004 | Steve Koppes

Posted on 10/26/2004 7:36:36 PM PDT by ckilmer

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Contact: Steve Koppes skoppes@uchicago.edu 773-702-8366 University of Chicago

Scientists zero in on why time flows in one direction The big bang could be a normal event in the natural evolution of the universe that will happen repeatedly over incredibly vast time scales as the universe expands, empties out and cools off, according to two University of Chicago physicists. "We like to say that the big bang is nothing special in the history of our universe," said Sean Carroll, an Assistant Professor in Physics at the University of Chicago. Carroll and University of Chicago graduate student Jennifer Chen are scheduled to post a paper describing their ideas at http://arxiv.org/ Thursday evening.

Carroll and Chen's research addresses two ambitious questions: why does time flow in only one direction, and could the big bang have arisen from an energy fluctuation in empty space that conforms to the known laws of physics?

The question about the arrow of time has vexed physicists for a century because "for the most part the fundamental laws of physics don't distinguish between past and future. They're time-symmetric," Carroll said.

And closely bound to the issue of time is the concept of entropy, a measure of disorder in the universe. As physicist Ludwig Boltzmann showed a century ago, entropy naturally increases with time. "You can turn an egg into an omelet, but not an omelet into an egg," Carroll said.

But the mystery remains as to why entropy was low in the universe to begin with. The difficulty of that question has long bothered scientists, who most often simply leave it as a puzzle to answer in the future. Carroll and Chen have made an attempt to answer it now.

Previous researchers have approached questions about the big bang with the assumption that entropy in the universe is finite. Carroll and Chen take the opposite approach. "We're postulating that the entropy of the universe is infinite. It could always increase," Chen said.

To successfully explain why the universe looks as it does today, both approaches must accommodate a process called inflation, which is an extension of the big bang theory. Astrophysicists invented inflation theory so that they could explain the universe as it appears today. According to inflation, the universe underwent a period of massive expansion in a fraction of a second after the big bang.

But there's a problem with that scenario: a "skeleton in the closet," Carroll said. To begin inflation, the universe would have encompassed a microscopically tiny patch in an extremely unlikely configuration, not what scientists would expect from a randomly chosen initial condition. Carroll and Chen argue that a generic initial condition is actually likely to resemble cold, empty space-not an obviously favorable starting point for the onset of inflation.

In a universe of finite entropy, some scientists have proposed that a random fluctuation could trigger inflation. This, however, would require the molecules of the universe to fluctuate from a high-entropy state into one of low entropy-a statistical longshot.

"The conditions necessary for inflation are not that easy to start," Carroll said. "There's an argument that it's easier just to have our universe appear from a random fluctuation than to have inflation begin from a random fluctuation."

Carroll and Chen's scenario of infinite entropy is inspired by the finding in 1998 that the universe will expand forever because of a mysterious force called "dark energy." Under these conditions, the natural configuration of the universe is one that is almost empty. "In our current universe, the entropy is growing and the universe is expanding and becoming emptier," Carroll said.

But even empty space has faint traces of energy that fluctuate on the subatomic scale. As suggested previously by Jaume Garriga of Universitat Autonoma de Barcelona and Alexander Vilenkin of Tufts University, these flucuations can generate their own big bangs in tiny areas of the universe, widely separated in time and space. Carroll and Chen extend this idea in dramatic fashion, suggesting that inflation could start "in reverse" in the distant past of our universe, so that time could appear to run backwards (from our perspective) to observers far in our past.

Regardless of the direction they run in, the new universes created in these big bangs will continue the process of increasing entropy. In this never-ending cycle, the universe never achieves equilibrium. If it did achieve equilibrium, nothing would ever happen. There would be no arrow of time.

"There's no state you can go to that is maximal entropy. You can always increase the entropy more by creating a new universe and allowing it to expand and cool off," Carroll explained.

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To: Jorge

I've been flying so much lately that I saw myself driving BACK to the airport WHILE I WAS DRIVING HOME from the airport...is that 'time-slip' - or just too much travel?


121 posted on 10/26/2004 8:19:12 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ckilmer

I've told you time and time again that time flies fast,the time of day is the right time for time out. DUU....


122 posted on 10/26/2004 8:20:29 PM PDT by ALLAH-ya-out-a-here
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To: ApesForEvolution
I've been flying so much lately that I saw myself driving BACK to the airport WHILE I WAS DRIVING HOME from the airport...is that 'time-slip' - or just too much travel?

yeah but..how long did You have to wait to disembark the jetliner??!

123 posted on 10/26/2004 8:21:37 PM PDT by timestax
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To: eagle11

Wow, a theory that might explain how Kerry could have voted for the 87 billion before he voted against it.


124 posted on 10/26/2004 8:21:42 PM PDT by Galena Nevada
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To: timestax

Hold on, let me ask myself that one...


125 posted on 10/26/2004 8:23:08 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ckilmer

There once was a link that would convert a web page backwards. www.smeg.com\backwards, or something like that. I was going to do an "already posted" reply and link the post to that page, so it would print sdrawkcab. Alas, that web page appears to be no more.


126 posted on 10/26/2004 8:23:33 PM PDT by T. P. Pole
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To: AggieCPA
usually when I woke up with a girl who somehow was far less attractive than she was at last call.

Ah the infamous "Beer Goggles" also known in the scientific community as "Entropy Optics". In short as the volume of alcohol in your galaxy (blood stream) decreases through the expansion of your bladder and necessitates a dispersion (The Big Wizz). The Entropy ("black energy")that once clouded your ability to discern a hottie from a double bagger is reduced and your sexual drive is now sucked into a "Black Hole" of remorse and shame. Don't worry it happens all over the known "Universities".
127 posted on 10/26/2004 8:23:35 PM PDT by Boiler Plate
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To: Galena Nevada

Who's Kerry?

(sorry, I'm practicing for next week...)


128 posted on 10/26/2004 8:23:58 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: Oberon
Perhaps we only perceive it flowing in one direction only because we're in an accelerated frame of reference with respect to time.

An "accelerated frame of reference"? LOL.

We "perceive" time as flowing forward because that is the nature of time, the reality we live in.

God created time, days and seasons.
We perceive time not only in our personal frame of reference but on EVERYTHING outside of of ourselves as well. Everything has a shelf-life, gets old, a period of reckoning and we SEE this. That is the definition of time.

129 posted on 10/26/2004 8:27:19 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: T. P. Pole; A. Pole

Did you require thought before typing backwards sdrawkcab?

Also, while you're here: are you related to A.Pole?


130 posted on 10/26/2004 8:28:42 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ApesForEvolution
I think that's jet-lag.
131 posted on 10/26/2004 8:29:12 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: ckilmer

time flows from a higher to lower concentration


132 posted on 10/26/2004 8:29:52 PM PDT by joesnuffy (America needs a 'Big Dog' on her porch not a easily frightened, whining, French,"Surrender Poodle"..)
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To: Jorge

Time slip sounded so much keweler...


133 posted on 10/26/2004 8:30:26 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ckilmer

this is ME before the BIG BANG!


134 posted on 10/26/2004 8:30:43 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Jorge
We "perceive" time as flowing forward because that is the nature of time, the reality we live in

Nope. It's because of our nature. Time has no nature. We manufacture the present.

The 'knowledge of good and evil' is also the knowledge of 'before and after'.

135 posted on 10/26/2004 8:31:38 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Where does the knowledge of 'now or later?' come into play? How about "I'm tired, can we do this in the morning?" or "But it was all ON SALE I said..."?


136 posted on 10/26/2004 8:34:40 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution (You will NEVER convince me that Muhammadanism isn't a veil for MASS MURDERS. Save your time...)
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To: ApesForEvolution
...is that 'time-slip' - or just too much travel?

With a bit of a mind flip
You're into the time slip.
And nothing can ever be the same.
You're spaced out on sensation.
Like you're under sedation.
Let's do the time-warp again.

137 posted on 10/26/2004 8:39:31 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: timestax

138 posted on 10/26/2004 8:39:36 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Cogadh na Sith
"We "perceive" time as flowing forward because that is the nature of time, the reality we live in"

Nope. It's because of our nature. Time has no nature. We manufacture the present.

Are you trying to make me laugh on purpose or what dude?

If people simply "manufactured the present" we would be in a state of perpetual chaos.

The idea that "Time has no nature" is nonsense.
The sun rises and sets each day. The sequence of days, weeks, seasons and years is one of the most reliable indicators of nature in existence.

The 'knowledge of good and evil' is also the knowledge of 'before and after'.

I suggest you seek serious counseling while you still have time.

139 posted on 10/26/2004 8:40:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: ApesForEvolution

;o)


140 posted on 10/26/2004 8:42:24 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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