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A Christian Can Be A Christian Or A Liberal, But Not Both
TownHall.com ^ | Oct. 25, 2004 | Doug Giles

Posted on 10/25/2004 3:39:15 PM PDT by Lindykim

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1 posted on 10/25/2004 3:39:15 PM PDT by Lindykim
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To: Lindykim
Amen! Russ Lee's "Live 'W'hat I Believe!"
2 posted on 10/25/2004 3:42:01 PM PDT by Bommer (“ Bush met the First Lady at a BBQ? That's Love brotha!" - stainlessbanner)
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To: Lindykim

Serious subject. Here's something to make you smile.
:)


A Catholic priest and a rabbi are sitting next to each other on an airplane.

After a while the priest turns to the rabbi and asks, "Is it still a requirement of your faith that you not eat pork?"

The rabbi responds, "Yes, that is still one of our beliefs."

The priest then asks, "Have you ever eaten pork?"

To which the rabbi replies, "Yes, on one occasion I did succumb to temptation and tasted a ham sandwich."

The priest nodded in understanding and went on with his reading.

A while later, the rabbi spoke up and asked the priest, "Father, is it still a requirement of your church that you remain celibate?"

The priest replied, "Yes, that is still very much a part of our faith."

The rabbi then asked him, "Father, have you ever fallen to the temptations of the flesh?"

The priest replied, "Yes, rabbi, on one occasion I was weak and broke with my faith."

The rabbi nodded understandingly. He was silent for about five minutes, and then he said, "Beats a ham sandwich, doesn't it?"


3 posted on 10/25/2004 3:43:28 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Lindykim

A really great writing!


4 posted on 10/25/2004 3:44:39 PM PDT by GOPologist
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To: Lindykim

Thanks for a good article and a big fat AMEN


5 posted on 10/25/2004 3:47:53 PM PDT by lucky7
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To: Lindykim

This is an excellent article. Thanks


6 posted on 10/25/2004 3:51:16 PM PDT by borntobeagle (International (Global) Test to begin. Please take out your #2 pencils.)
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To: Lindykim
"Liberal (i.e., left-wing) Christian" is an oxymoron for more reasons than just the issues of abortion and licentiousness. There's also the matter of a political philosophy that 1) is based on envy and theft and 2) places politicians above God/Tao/Providence as the source of our unalienable rights.
7 posted on 10/25/2004 3:54:05 PM PDT by snarkpup (Kerry is to national security what Clinton was to morality.)
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To: Lindykim

My favorite on this issue is entitled "Was Jesus a Liberal?" by Selwyn Duke.

http://www.intellectualconservative.com/article2925.html


8 posted on 10/25/2004 3:54:54 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Lindykim

Well Done! Even if a liberal were able to remove the "negative " aspects of liberalism, the positive aspects of this belief system still cannot be justified before God.


9 posted on 10/25/2004 3:55:04 PM PDT by pipecorp ("never know where you're going till you get there." the philosopher Insectus Harem)
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To: Lindykim
Thanks for the post.

At church yesterday I told someone that you can't be a Christian and a Democrat. It resulted in quite an interesting argument. That may not be politically correct but I believe it to be true.
10 posted on 10/25/2004 3:55:41 PM PDT by jan in Colorado (I'm not opinionated, I'm Right!)
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To: Lindykim

“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called the children of God.”


11 posted on 10/25/2004 3:57:09 PM PDT by Doe Eyes (Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life.)
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To: Lindykim
Can a Christian be a liberal? Short answer: no.

Correct answer: Yes.

The author disingenously defines both "Christian" and "liberal" so narrowly that he gets his desired answer by definition, not by truth.

In truth, both Christianity and liberalism cover such broad ranges that overlap does exist.

The author is playing the same childish game as Hillary Clinton was when she said in a 02/06/97 CNN interview, "I have to confess it has crossed my mind that you could not be a Republican and a Christian."

This rhetorical game is unfortunately so common that it has been recognized by being given its own name: No true Scotsman.

12 posted on 10/25/2004 3:59:55 PM PDT by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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To: lilylangtree

Thankyou and Godbless!
a bit of humor is what we all need at this point,so here goes.

a very wealthy catholic had a dog he was very fond of.
the animal became ill,and after extensive examination, the dog was determined to be terminal. The man contacted his Bishop for a meeting. He brought the dog with him and asked the Bishop to heal the dog. The Bishop responded that he knew nothing about animal medicine. The man then said to the Bishop, "I'll give the Church $100,000.00" The Bishop responded, "That's different. I didn't realize the dog was Catholic."


13 posted on 10/25/2004 4:02:33 PM PDT by alpha-8-25-02 (SAVED BY GRACE AND GRACE ALONE)
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To: Lindykim
So if I don't vote republican, I'm not a Christian??

My Bible says accept Christ as your Savior and be born again.

Noting about politics at all except, "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's..."

I don't believe God the Father will bar a person with Christ in his or her heart from Heaven because they didn't vote the republican party line all their life!

JEEZ....

14 posted on 10/25/2004 4:05:15 PM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Ichneumon
Did you read the whole article.
As he defines todays liberals in the democratic party the answer is NO!
He spells that out plain as day.
If you want to use different definitions then write your own article.
15 posted on 10/25/2004 4:10:24 PM PDT by sausageseller
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To: Walkin Man

Jesus isn't a relativist.

ALL liberals are relativists.


16 posted on 10/25/2004 4:13:46 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (All DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: Walkin Man

The point is, if you support abortions, gay marriages and the like, you are not in keeping with the church. If you feel differently...brush the dust off your Bible!


17 posted on 10/25/2004 4:14:42 PM PDT by Pointblank
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To: Walkin Man
Many who call themselves Christians will stand before Christ the Judge on that day and say
"Lord Lord did we not cast out demons in your name and have we not prophesied in your name? And the Lord will say to them...depart from me you evil doers I DO NOT KNOW YOU..

If you stand with the pedophiles, those of the homosexual agenda, pornographers, liars and perverts Marxists and abortionists (who have killed more than 14 million pre born babies since Roe V Wade)...If you stand with those who wish to destroy the America of our founders and against those who gave their blood their lives their children that in this free nation we might worship Christ as we see fit.....

You cannot possibly be a Christian...as your mind has been clouded..and you are under deception and strong delusion....

This has nothing to do with voting Republican...yet has everything to do with... Right and Wrong

IMO
18 posted on 10/25/2004 4:17:13 PM PDT by joesnuffy (America needs a 'Big Dog' on her porch not a easily frightened, whining, French,"Surrender Poodle"..)
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To: jan in Colorado

"At church yesterday I told someone that you can't be a Christian and a Democrat. It resulted in quite an interesting argument. That may not be politically correct but I believe it to be true."

Whoa, that may be a little too strong. I would never say a Christian cannot be a democrat. I would, however, question why someone who claims to be a Christian would be a democrat considering the party's stands. Although I am a conservative evangelical Christian and currently Republican. I would never equate being republican with being Christian. It just so happens that for the present, the Republican party - at least in writing - is most close to my beliefs.

If pro-aborts & pro-homosexuals became a majority in the Republican party - I would bail in a heart beat. No party has a lock on morality.


19 posted on 10/25/2004 4:19:57 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Lindykim

i scanned the article, but it seemed to miss one important fact. god expects the fruit of good deeds from those he has bestowed his grace upon. big gov't promises to bring "heaven on earth" by making everything equal. when we rely on big gov't to solve social problems, we fail to take the step to help our fellow man, and we miss out on the many blessings of being god's conduit. the sad fact is that big gov't gets in the way of our relationship with god.


20 posted on 10/25/2004 4:21:28 PM PDT by mlocher
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