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Why people hate America? (long screed but revealing of 3rd World hatred)
PakNews (Pakistan) ^ | 10/24/04 | Khan

Posted on 10/24/2004 2:06:23 PM PDT by pabianice

One important affect of the recent ghastly terrorism in the US is the growing realisation among Americans to know as to what makes this seemingly fair, generous, magnanimous and humane nation as despicable as to provoke human beings to commit suicide only to inflict the possible deadliest injuries on it.

Some stunning ironies intervene at this juncture. The US is a dreamland, an obsessive destination for about 95 per cent people of the third world. People enter America even if they had to die in the attempt an attempt not less than a suicide.

But yet it is the most hated nation in the world. The US is a great nation with a benign record rarely matched by other preceding nations as great as the US. The 4,000 years of recorded human history show conquest, invasion and religious conversion by the great powers. "The gap between America and the world's second mightiest country is the widest in history.

Yet America gives more aid, provides more humanitarian relief, gives more "debt relief," and continuously demonstrates a restraint of power", says a conservative columnist. Had any other nation been in the position of the US, it may not have been as peace loving and responsive to justice as the US has been. So the arguments go. Yet it could not maintain such a benign façade.

It is the first nation which embarked on enlightening the world by seeking independence from the mightiest British Empire, inspiring and helping the French Revolution. It grew to power on the ashes of imperialist powers but never opted to be an imperialist power.

It fought the evil of godless communism, Fascism and Nazism on its own cost. Yet it failed to evoke enduring respect from the beneficiaries. It is the first ever nation on the surface of earth that sacrificed its wealth and millions of lives to fight slavery on its own soil. Yet it cons the weaker nations into following a slave-master pattern of relation. It is that rationalist nation that set a unique precedent of separating religion from politics at a time when doing so seemed to be an utter impossibility.

It exactly followed the principle of Thomas Jefferson that in matters of religion "the maxim of civil government" should be reversed and we should rather say, "Divided we stand, united, we fall" meaning the separation of Church and State. Yet it rarely hesitates to demonise other religion, letting the rivals to riposte with religious weapon.

It showered its wealth on poor nations, including its defeated enemies like Japan and Germany, yet it proved to be less than that much magnanimous. Above all, it is the richest nation, which implies its greatness, showing the validity of its values. But yet its greatness is out of synch with the values essential for that much greatness.

It has lumped together values like respect for private property, the rule of law, individual rights, minimum government, free markets and civil liberty, yet racism lingers as rancid stench in its social structure. How America is tarnished by a mishmash of such benumbing contradictions may be revealed from a speech of Former President Bill Clinton.

While delivering his speech at University of California in 1997, he pointed to this beguiling nature of American society. "We were born with a declaration of independence which asserted that we all were created equal and a constitution that enshrined slavery. We fought a bloody civil war to abolish slavery but we remained unequal by law for another century. We advanced across the continent in the name of freedom, yet in so doing we pushed Native Americans off their land.

We welcome immigrants, but each new wave has felt the sting of discrimination." Given the besetting contradictions of American society, one has little to disagree with Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, the man who serves a life imprisonment for the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center, and who greatly shares the minds of those who recently inflicted injuries on America.

While confessing his crime he said, "Yes, I am a terrorist, and I am proud of it. And I support terrorism so long as it was against the US Government, because you are more than terrorists; you are the ones who invented terrorism and use it every day. You are butchers, liars and hypocrites." Such views are shared by a majority of Muslims who show no scruples in spewing venom against the US. (sic)

What makes such Muslims despise the US? Is it because of what a writer calls a product of jealousy by those who, being unable to catch it up, are bound to drag it down? Or because of the Islam's inherent belief system which leaves no room for the validity of other system? This comes as no less surprising when one sees that the United States, which, apart from a brief interlude in the Muslim-minority area of the Philippines, has never ruled any Muslim population, has surpassed in its hatred by Muslims all imperialist nations which brutally suppressed them.

Rather, Russia still enjoys more influence and prestige in Muslim Central Asia than any Islamic nation. So does the UK in former Muslim colonies. So, religion does not seem to have tinged the Muslims' antipathy towards the US. Had it been the case, the Islamic world must have despised the atheistic China more than the US, a Christian nation sanctioned by Islam.

The way the US is buttressing the illegitimate Israel on the land of Palestine may have exacerbated the wrath of the Muslim to the level of maniac animosity towards it, but the fact the radical Arabs could not be insinuated at times when the US showed scruples like not rushing to be the first nation recognising Israel and siding with Arabs during the Suez crisis in 1956, reveals the US good behavior towards the Muslims did little to inspire love for America.

Charles Krauthammer, a columnist of Washington Post, repines to see Muslims sotted with rage even despite the US sacrifices for their cause. "America conducted three wars in 90s. The Gulf War saved the Kuwaiti people from Saddam. American intervention in the Balkans saved Bosnia. And then we saved Kosovo from Serbia. What do these three military campaigns have in common? In every one we saved Muslim people.

And then there was Somalia, a military operation of unadulterated altruism. Its sole purpose was to save the starving people of Somalia. For such alliances and actions, we get over 5,000 Americans murdered." Professor Bernard Lewis in his book, "The Roots of Muslim Rage" tries to solve this dilemma, saying that the Muslims are disgusted with the unprecedented success of the Western powers, which resulted in a terrible loss of their authority and prestige at home, at national and at international level. " The Muslim has suffered successive stages.

It was too much to endure, and the outbreak of rage against these alien, infidel, and incomprehensible forces that had subverted his dominance, disrupted his society, and finally violated the sanctuary of his home was inevitable." If it were the case this might have affected the mainstream Muslim polity, which is, obviously not the case.

The western powers, especially the US enjoys pretty good relations with the majority of Muslim nations. Professor Lewis admits it saying the US policies never suffered disaster in the Muslim world. " There is no Vietnam or Cuba in the Islamic world," he says.

What revulsion the Muslim radical has against the US, as a matter of fact, doesn't arise because of any religious sensitivities, but shares the feeling and mood of all the people of the world, including Americans who, in one way or the other, are affected by the policies of the US.

One may not be able to enlist all the grievances of all affectees but mere reminding of US policies towards Cuba, Vietnam and Chile may suffice to help know why people hate America. In 1970, it was decided at a meeting in Washington held by Mr. Kissinger that General René Schneider, the head of the Chilean armed forces, should be murdered so that to block the peaceful, democratic, orderly transition of the elected president, Salvador Allende and to pave the way for a military fag who would unleash a reign of terror in Chile.

This was General Pinochet, who, like his sponsor, Henry Kissinger, is now facing in court the charges of committing inhuman atrocities. Kissinger's other business and political partners, Mr. Suharto, General Papadopoulos in Greece, the chorus of Generals in Bangladesh who committed the assassination of Sheikh Mujibur Rahman, ruled with ruthless hands with full support of the US. Not to speak of how the US supported Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to crush Iran no matter with what weapon, even chemical.

Spoken this way, one faces almost no difficulty in concluding that the successive US regimes remained maniacally obsessed with creating an environment that guaranteed maximum mundane benefits no matter on what cost of human values.

Whether it is the life-long support of Israel or sporadic embracing of Afghan Mujahideen in 1980s, the motive remains the same. According to Chomsky, what America really wants is to steal from the poor and give to the rich. America's crusade against Communism was actually a crusade "to protect our doctrine that the rich should plunder the poor." (What Uncle Sam really wants). Thus, being flustered with such snobbish self-interest for long time, the US sometimes crosses all limits of humanity.

In a September 2001 issue of "the Progressive Magazine", the author, Thomas J. Negy, exposes an eye-splitting account of a secret document," Iraq Water Treatment Vulnerabilities" prepared by the US Defence Intelligence Agency in January 1991. It stipulates how sanctions will prevent Iraq from supplying clean water to its citizens.

The document states," Failing to secure supplies (because of sanctions) will result in a shortage of pure drinking water for much of the population. This could lead to increased incidences of disease….

Iraqi rivers are contain biological materials, pollutants, and are laden with bacteria. Unless the water is purified with chlorine, (the import of which is embargoed by sanctions) epidemics of such disease as cholera, hepatitis, and typhoid could occur." What a strategy to topple its former minion, Saddam Hussein, by killing innocent people with epidemics? Even Mongols in the 13th century would have shivered with a twinge of remorse if they had seen such a brutal strategy.

But even a paltry twinge of compunction this humane and civilised government never showed. Still we wonder as to why people hate America. It is a strange irony of fact that the government of a people who are the most generous people of the world, giving annually more than $100 billions in charity, happens to be the most egregious violator of basic human values.

This intriguing dichotomy isn't foolproof enough to prevent people from hating America.


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The lunatic left is also alive and well in Asia.
1 posted on 10/24/2004 2:06:24 PM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice

hope this doesn't come off as too much but, I don't give a DAMN! why they hate us. We are the ones they go to for help $. We are the country THEY are looking to come to. So to kerry and his comrades I say, screw EM!


2 posted on 10/24/2004 2:09:07 PM PDT by mk2000
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I think that people and governments around the world blame America because it's easier than explaining their own failings.


3 posted on 10/24/2004 2:09:40 PM PDT by cripplecreek (We've turned the corner and we're not smokin crack.)
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To: cripplecreek

Who cares if they hate or how much. America will always be the first in line to offer aid and assistance in crises despite being demonized. America, for the most part, is a generous and compassionate country. It only shows how extremely small and worthless the demonizers are.

May America bless God so He can continue to bless America.


4 posted on 10/24/2004 2:12:12 PM PDT by freepertoo
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To: pabianice

Bottom line, the world hates the US because it believes the propaganda of the American Left.


5 posted on 10/24/2004 2:15:22 PM PDT by dila813
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To: pabianice
Quoting Bill Clinton:

"We were born with a declaration of independence which asserted that we all were created equal and a constitution that enshrined slavery. We fought a bloody civil war to abolish slavery but we remained unequal by law for another century. We advanced across the continent in the name of freedom, yet in so doing we pushed Native Americans off their land.

We welcome immigrants, but each new wave has felt the sting of discrimination."

And with every step we have moved forward with greater freedom, and always faster than any other nation on this earth.

Work hard, pay your dues, and Learn To Be An American, not a hyphenated POS, and you will quickly gain more than any other nation can offer you.

So9

6 posted on 10/24/2004 2:16:03 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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the biggest hypocrite is chomsky who endorses Kerry..

but most communist wars (vietnam, korea) were waged by Democrats, and the biggest Communist victory by Reagan, resulted in no war at all..


7 posted on 10/24/2004 2:18:38 PM PDT by atari
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To: dila813

Other countries want to suck the tete of the American Taxpayer. We save them in times of war, we feed them in times of famine, we give them free medicines in time of disease, we provide the bulk of humanitarian aid in the world both with food and funding. And like the proverbial spoiled child they cry when they think they should have more free tete milk. Personally, I think we should organize a FoodPEC and give away as many tons of food to the world as tons of oil are given to us. We should control the flow of food and make it a true commodity on the world market instead of shipping it by the megaton to every sod who can't figure out to move out of the desert.


8 posted on 10/24/2004 2:20:34 PM PDT by Blast_Master
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To: pabianice

Pakistan will soon be reduced to being a province of Greater India.


9 posted on 10/24/2004 2:21:20 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: mk2000

Unless its a case of a natural disaster, we need to immediately stop giving monetary aid to all countries.


10 posted on 10/24/2004 2:21:52 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Boycotting movies since 1988)
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To: pabianice

For another analysis, here's an article I wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1243882/posts


11 posted on 10/24/2004 2:23:37 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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the US is hated because there has to be a balance of negative and positive in the world. Once the Soviet Union fell apart, a void was created that had to be filled by disparate groups and smaller entities. The Soviet Union hated us on grand ideological grounds...now we're hated for all kinds of reasons...every good thing in this world must be opposed by an evil. In some cases, as China, it is the government that opposes the good people...in others, like the Middle East, the contempt of the rulers for their people force them to deflect hatred from themselves to us and those like us...in any case, this world is built on a balance of good and bad...from the nucleus to the whole universe


13 posted on 10/24/2004 2:25:37 PM PDT by Bobber58 (whatever it takes, for as long as it takes)
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To: pabianice
Isn't it amazing how wacko kooks around the world always happen to just KNOW about secret American plans to "poison Iraq's water supply" Gee since they have such a massively effective intelligence gathering apparatus. Perhaps they will save the lives of innocent Iraqis and tell us where Zikawari is hiding?
14 posted on 10/24/2004 2:28:08 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Vote Bush 2004-We cannot survive a 9-10 President in a 9-11 World)
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To: pabianice
The US is a dreamland, an obsessive destination for about 95 per cent people of the third world. People enter America even if they had to die in the attempt an attempt not less than a suicide.

But yet it is the most hated nation in the world.

Yet we still let third-worlders immigrate legally with preference over first world and former second world immigrants, and millions of third world illegals can come right over the southern border as potential future Democratic voters.

He should have said that the U.S. is in a dreamland.

15 posted on 10/24/2004 2:28:25 PM PDT by xJones
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To: cripplecreek
I think that people and governments around the world blame America because it's easier than explaining their own failings.

Very Good Point.

16 posted on 10/24/2004 2:28:26 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: pabianice

It’s obvious the author is extremely deluded by years of anti-American indoctrination and in this article is simply preaching to the choir. Unfortunately, the article is a classic example of the type of anti-American tripe that poisons the minds of billions throughout the world.


17 posted on 10/24/2004 2:30:51 PM PDT by Turbodog
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To: Bobber58
"the US is hated because there has to be a balance of negative and positive in the world. Once the Soviet Union fell apart, a void was created that had to be filled by disparate groups and smaller entities. The Soviet Union hated us on grand ideological grounds...now we're hated for all kinds of reasons...every good thing in this world must be opposed by an evil."

That theory sure doesn't explain the rampant anti-Americanism I personally experienced in both Europe and Asia during the 70's and 80's.

18 posted on 10/24/2004 2:37:37 PM PDT by Turbodog
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To: pabianice

Ping for later study


19 posted on 10/24/2004 2:42:51 PM PDT by whershey (www.worldwar4.net)
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To: pabianice

I think we should prove him right! Because we could, but what he misses to understand is that we don't.

We have the ability to be a monster. We could literally wipe him and his kind off the earth as brutal and close-minded as that sounds. However, our own people, of whom we have over 5,000,000 Moslems, would NEVER allow this.

You can preach this crap in the US, but you go to an Arab or most Moslem nations and talk about religion, or politics. They know us well enough to know about our liberties, but overlook their own hypocrisy. They are a society 600 years behind the times culturally.

The author of this article is right in one respect though. The problem with the whole Moslem world is that they TOLERATE terrorism and sympathize with the world view of these terrorists.

Tomorrow it could all be over, if they (The Moslem world) chose to do the right thing and not support this evil way of thinking. Instead they try to shift blame and overlook minor details like "Who the majority of terrorists have been since the 70s." Moslem men maybe? Maybe he thinks we are all so stupid and cannot understand what is broadcast from the Mosque over loudspeaker? You will not find a leader in the US condoning violence the way they do mainstream in many parts of their world (The religion of peace). When these idiots wake up and figure out what is wrong with themselves the problems will cease to exist (positive solution). Until then we must kill many of them who pose a danger or are threats (negative solution). This killing is not racially or religiously motivated as it is for them! That is a key difference too. No, it's a direct response to their actions. What do these freaks expect? That we get bombed and say, "Oh yea, sorry about that, I know we're so bad because of who we are and we are at fault for your terrorism that you like to export." Ask this weirdo if he knows the definition of terrorism. If he understands that we target military or terrorist threats while his brothers (with whom he obviously sympathizes) target civilians. But of course a dimwit such as this will lead you down the slippery slope and will try to show that we too are terrorists and target civilians. Because these guys know they are such scum (And I think deep down inside they know it) they try to rationalize their pathetic world and actions. That’s why they hype up any collateral damage and fiercely try to place us on their level. If they don’t like to be considered “savages” then maybe they should stop acting as such.

Red6


20 posted on 10/24/2004 2:48:51 PM PDT by Red6
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