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TheMom

Posted on 10/21/2004 9:19:28 PM PDT by TheMom

The neighbor adjacent to my (deceased) father’s property recently put up a utility fence that is approximately 6 feet over the property line. Labor day weekend I stopped the workmen from installing the fence, as it was then approximately 8 feet over the property line. At that time I show the neighbor the 2002 plat and gave her the surveyor’s name and phone number (whom she apparently did not call).

I have send her a letter, both certified and regular mail, requesting she remove the fence from my father’s property and fill in the holes within 30 days.

Can anyone tell me what my remedies are once the 30 days arrives and she has not removed the fence?


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1 posted on 10/21/2004 9:19:29 PM PDT by TheMom
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Feel free to answer and/or ping an expert.

Thanks!!


2 posted on 10/21/2004 9:20:08 PM PDT by TheMom (Hell yeah!)
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If it is on your property, should you not at least cut down the fence or break it in half? At least part of it.


3 posted on 10/21/2004 9:22:34 PM PDT by ikka
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To: TheMom
Go to your property, take the fence down, and place the material on her property.

Pound in some stakes on the property line and string some barbed wire on it.

Then tell the lady that you would be happy to pay for 1/2 of a new fence if she wished to errect it on the proper property line.

4 posted on 10/21/2004 9:23:14 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: TheMom

The sad but best advice is to get a lawyer - that said, I believe in this case, if the facts are as presented, you should receive a remedy (the removal of the pole, fence, etc.) as well as attorney's fees and court costs.


5 posted on 10/21/2004 9:23:42 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: TheMom

go to the justice of the peace in your area and get what is called a Forceable Entry and Detainer. It has to be served by the sheriff or constable. It gives them a certain amount of time to get out or it can be taken down.

this is a thumbnail, barebones method as it is in Texas. Find a lawyer where you are. It will be worth it in the end.


6 posted on 10/21/2004 9:24:26 PM PDT by shankbear
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To: TheMom

If you are SURE about the property line, you can remove the fence and bill them for the removal.

You can put up a fence, just on your side of the property line.

Call a local real estate attorney.


7 posted on 10/21/2004 9:24:41 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: shankbear
Screw all that Lawyer business. Take the fence down if it is on your property.

Don't get a lawyer unless she does.

8 posted on 10/21/2004 9:26:24 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: TheMom

http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/statutes/pptoc.html

Contact your local county or city offices, they should have an agency that deals with building and property lines. Its been over ten years since I was in surveying so I cant remember exactly what local agency you should contact, probably a land and title or zoning office.


9 posted on 10/21/2004 9:27:58 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: TheMom

In most places you need some kinda permit for a fence. Maybe, talk to your local building official.


10 posted on 10/21/2004 9:28:04 PM PDT by notfondajane (I did think Barbarella was kinda cool though.)
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To: TheMom

You should call an attorney in your area. Property laws vary depending on the jurisdition that you're in. Some attorneys will give free initial consultations if you're worried about paying someone just for initial advice, so you can call around and ask to see how much different attorneys will charge.


11 posted on 10/21/2004 9:28:08 PM PDT by tuliptree76
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To: shankbear

Shouldnt need a lawyer in the beginning, all she has to do is get the city or county to come out and determine the true property line.


12 posted on 10/21/2004 9:29:52 PM PDT by aft_lizard (Actually i voted for John Kerry before I voted against him.)
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To: TheMom

Consult a lawyer who knows the law in your state and municipality. If you allow her to build the fence and take over the property, after a certain amount of time in most jurisdictions, it becomes her property by "right of adverse possession". Your attempt to stop her by writing her a letter may or may not have legal merit depending upon the provisions of your father's Will -- or if he died intestate, the laws of your state. The only certain way to not screw up here is to hire an attorney who is well versed in property law in the given jurisdiction.


13 posted on 10/21/2004 9:30:11 PM PDT by Lunkhead_01
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Try the local building (inspection) department. They probably will be telling you to call an attorney, but it is worth a try. The fence being on your side, you have a right to remove it. As I understand it. Check with local laws first.


14 posted on 10/21/2004 9:31:55 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: TheMom

Actually, she owes you rent for your property for the length of time the fence is in place, but if you don't want to get a lawyer, tear the sucker down (and don't be gentle!).


15 posted on 10/21/2004 9:32:11 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: TheMom

If you are certain of the property line, and if the fence is on your property you not only have a right, but you have an obligation to take it down. If you leave it up, then your neighbor can later make a claim of adverse posession and it and everything on the other side of it will actually become your neighbors property.


16 posted on 10/21/2004 9:32:25 PM PDT by P-Marlowe
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To: TheMom

Sounds like you need a good fence...why not put up one on the REAL property line as you remove the old one.


17 posted on 10/21/2004 9:32:40 PM PDT by sierrahome (Department of Redundancy Department)
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To: TheMom
Your options probably depend a lot on where you live - local and state property laws.

Is the fence wood or chain link?

If it's wood, go out and just pound a bunch of nails on your side, maybe hang some planters, or just practice hitting nails. Screws too, they can only be removed from one side, lest your neighbor trespass into your lawn in order to remove them!

If it's chain link, get a couple spray paint cans of flourescent colors and be artistic - maybe paint "Bush-Cheney '04" on the fence!

18 posted on 10/21/2004 9:34:13 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: TheMom
First thing you should know is you need professional advice.
Knowing what state you live in is critical, because each state has different laws. You mentioned a surveyor and a surveyor's plat. If the property was surveyed and the corners set the quickest way to resolve your problem is to have the same surveyor come and find the corners he set, and if they have been removed (a crime in most states) make a note of that too.
Since you have already given the neighbor constructive notice, you may not need to worry about adverse possession.

Get the surveyor into the picture. It is money well spent.

19 posted on 10/21/2004 9:34:29 PM PDT by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: TheMom

I wonder if you can go to your registry of deeds and get that advice right from the office?


20 posted on 10/21/2004 9:35:45 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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