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Bush Has Expectations Working On His Side; Poll: President Pulls Ahead of Kerry
ABC NEWS ^ | 10/17/04 | By GARY LANGER

Posted on 10/17/2004 7:10:33 AM PDT by tagawgrag

Edited on 10/17/2004 7:25:39 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Oct. 17, 2004 -- While the race for the presidency is close, George W. Bush has expectations working for him: Most likely voters think that in the end he'll win a second term.

Even though the race has been a dead heat for much of the past week, 56 percent in the latest ABC News tracking poll think Bush will win, compared with 33 percent who think Kerry will. That's a bit closer than in early September, before the debates revived Kerry's campaign, but expectations remain on Bush's side.

After a dead heat last Wednesday through Friday, the race today stands at 50 percent support for Bush, 46 percent for Kerry and two percent for Ralph Nader among likely voters in interviews Wednesday through Saturday. The last two days were better for Bush, who's taken to the road since Wednesday's debate with sharpened criticism of Kerry's domestic policies.

Women account for some of the slight movement in the race. Men still support Bush by double digits (13 points in this poll), while women are now supporting Kerry by a narrower 51-46 percent. Bush also is back to poaching slightly more Democrats (13 percent support him) than Kerry wins Republicans (seven percent). Still, independents, key swing voters, divide closely, 48 percent for Kerry, 45 percent for Bush.

One of Bush's lines of attack has been to portray Kerry as a liberal an effective criticism if it sticks, given the ideological makeup of likely voters. About two in 10 call themselves liberals; substantially more, 34 percent in this poll, are conservatives. That gives Bush a bigger base, while Kerry has to appeal beyond his base to more of the middle a sometimes tricky political straddle.

Nader

With more than 7,500 interviews of registered voters during the last 16 days, the ABC News tracking poll has accumulated enough of Nader's supporters to begin to analyze this small subgroup. Independents predominate: Fifty-nine percent of them are independents, 21 percent Democrats and 10 percent Republicans.

Fewer than might be expected, three in 10 Nader supporters, are liberals; 24 percent are conservatives and 40 percent moderates. They're younger overall -- half of Nader supporters are under age 40, compared with 40 percent of all registered voters.

As befits a younger group, Nader supporters also are less well off: Thirty-nine percent of Nader voters have incomes over $50,000, compared with 51 percent of all registered voters. This poll will produce further analysis of Nader supporters, narrowed to likely voters, as the tracking sample grows.

Expectations

Expectations of the outcome are partisan, but not exclusively so. Eighty-eight percent of Bush's supporters expect him to win; fewer of Kerry's, 67 percent, predict victory for their candidate.

Only in three core Kerry groups -- Democrats, liberals and blacks -- do majorities expect him to win. Another core Democratic group, non-religious Americans, divide evenly; and still another, single women, expect it to be Bush -- even though they themselves favor Kerry by more than a 20-point margin.

In the two big swing voter groups, 55 percent of independents expect Bush to win, as do 54 percent of white Catholics. A Bush victory is expected by six in 10 moveable voters, young voters and first-time voters alike, as well as by large majorities of Bush's core groups -- 75 percent of conservatives and evangelical white Protestants alike.

Methodology

This poll was conducted by telephone Oct. 13-16, 2004 among a random national sample of 2,401 adults, including 2,115 registered voters and 1,582 likely voters. The results have a 2.5-point error margin for the likely voter sample. ABC News and "The Washington Post" are sharing data collection for this tracking poll, then independently applying their own models to arrive at likely voter estimates. Sampling, data collection and tabulation by TNS of Horsham, Pa.


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To: tagawgrag
People are starting to wake up. Kerry has lied by omission when he purposed all his "plans". The only way Kerry could pass his "plan" on health care would be to repeal the current bill by President Bush. If he was even able to repeal the current bill, he can't give a guarantee another would pass because it calls for raising the spending limits and the vote through the houses. It means that the elderly may wind up with nothing. As for repealing the "tax for the rich", first he would have to repeal the whole bill that do benefit all Taxpaying Americans, including middle class. Once again everyone may end up with nothing. Bush's energy bill is stalled in the Senate because the Demorats want to hold off on it and hope Kerry gets elected then he would just pass it off as his own minus the Alaskan proposal.
101 posted on 10/17/2004 10:24:43 AM PDT by tobyhill (The war on terrorism is not for the weak!)
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To: tagawgrag

The Drooling Lapdog Press is starting to cut its losses...


102 posted on 10/17/2004 10:31:40 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: Sooth2222

Interesting -- I never would've guessed that Roosevelt won by such a narrow margin in 1944.


103 posted on 10/17/2004 10:34:19 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: commish
America will get in there and say, NOPE can't do it, can't change horses now.

That's what I think is going to happen. Big landslide coming. I can feel the tremors.

104 posted on 10/17/2004 10:41:28 AM PDT by johnb838 (Give Our President A Mandate! Get Out The Vote!)
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To: tagawgrag

105 posted on 10/17/2004 10:45:19 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (John Kerry is a GirlyManchurian Candidate.)
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To: MNJohnnie

In 2000, vote fraud in the form of recount fraud didn't give Gore the illicit victory he craved. After GWB is reelected I'd be surprised if anything gets done, including federal oversight of balloting, which is badly needed IMHO.

Mostly, I think the ballot fraud problem serves as a motivation for Bush supporters, i.e., enemies of the Party of the Single Party State (the so-called Democrats).


106 posted on 10/17/2004 12:38:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: ride the whirlwind
What is that 7% of R's smoking?

That would be the DUmmies who try to demoralize us by pretending to be Pubbies voting for the Fraud. I have actually read posts (months ago, haven't been there lately) over there where some DUmmies were claiming to have done just that, and laughing about how we'd react.

107 posted on 10/17/2004 1:18:08 PM PDT by VRWCer (Everything that is hidden will be found out, and every secret will be known. Luke 12:2)
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To: MNJohnnie
Kerry promised one of the first things he would do is to shut down production of nucleur BUNKER BUSTERS

Just like Zell Miller said, the Fraud is planning on defending us with SPITBALLS!

108 posted on 10/17/2004 1:23:18 PM PDT by VRWCer (Everything that is hidden will be found out, and every secret will be known. Luke 12:2)
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To: nightowl
This is the part I like-

56 percent in the latest ABC News tracking poll think Bush will win, compared with 33 percent who think Kerry will.

If they believe it's a lost cause, they may stay home or not turn in that ballot. They may even be less inclined to participate in fraud.

I do think the Christian vote is going to surpass the 4 million said to have not voted in 2000. People assume that number cited in addition with those that voted in 2000, is the totality that can be expected from the Christian community. Uh-uh. Not even close. If the community is as energized as I believe they are, people may be surprised election day. More so than they were for the airing of TPOTC.

109 posted on 10/17/2004 2:16:01 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: tagawgrag

One of Bush's lines of attack has been to portray Kerry as a liberal an effective criticism if it sticks, given the ideological makeup of likely voters. About two in 10 call themselves liberals; substantially more,


IF IT STICKS????????

HOW COULD IT NOT STICK????????

the msm.

oh.


110 posted on 10/17/2004 2:19:50 PM PDT by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Actually I think these articles are the msm's way to mobolize the leftist base.


111 posted on 10/17/2004 2:21:34 PM PDT by mlmr (The End is Near.)
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To: tagawgrag

ABC poll shows "50 percent support for Bush, 46 for Kerry"--

I saw these numbers on Fox News day before yesterday, and started a thread--the thread got yanked. I'm still scratching my head on why.


112 posted on 10/17/2004 2:28:20 PM PDT by spitlana
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To: don'tbedenied
The MSM is so yesterday 20th Century.

There, fixed that for ya.

113 posted on 10/17/2004 5:05:44 PM PDT by buzzsaw6 (26 year military vet still serving in the ANG)
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To: buzzsaw6
Fly in the ointment: What's the word one Gin Soaked One opening her checkbook?
114 posted on 10/17/2004 6:01:50 PM PDT by investigateworld ((Oh,Father watch over our service men and women, they are so young and so far from home))
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To: tagawgrag

Notice the bias... Bush "poaches" Democrat votes, but Kerry "wins" Republican ones.


115 posted on 10/17/2004 6:39:11 PM PDT by zencycler
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To: Doctorlawyer
If you don't someone very well, as many don't know Kerry, and they seem to say things that sound good, and even they look presidential at such an event as a debate on t.v., and then they say something that strips away the facade in a lightening second revealing the real character within, and that lightening second revelation stays with you the next day, and the next day, and sits like rotten garbage in your spirit, it does make a difference in how you view a person. Such was the effect, I believe, of Kerry's intentional "gaffe" about Mary Cheney. A stinking, rotting, piece of garbage revelatory moment in time for all to see. The man is truly a baaaaad man. No denying it to the human spirit -- or the gut, as some may say it.
116 posted on 10/17/2004 8:20:44 PM PDT by bethtopaz (I go with my gut every time.)
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To: DestroytheDemocrats

I know just how you feel. The ONLY consolation I have in a Kerry win is that he will "f" it up so badly that America will never want another democrat in office -- ever! Look, he can't even run a campaign effectively, how can anyone expect him to run a country. He's never run anything as a matter of fact, just his mouth - constantly spewing out unbelievably stupid things.


117 posted on 10/17/2004 8:32:23 PM PDT by bethtopaz (I go with my gut every time.)
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To: somerville

I'm in northern California.


118 posted on 10/18/2004 4:52:13 AM PDT by GVnana (If I had a Buckhead moment would I know it?)
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To: GVgirl

Good luck ! I'm on the Upper West Side of Manhattan, definitely in the minority. I imagine you are as well.


119 posted on 10/18/2004 6:00:50 AM PDT by somerville
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To: nightowl

Our church in Peoria had a register to vote effort at the end of September. We have over 3000 attendees each week, and we probably registered over a hundred. If this is replicated at all evangelic churches (20-40 million) we're talking several million additional voters.

Go Bush.


120 posted on 10/19/2004 8:41:39 AM PDT by Forgiven_Sinner (Erasmus fan)
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