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Usama bin Laden is Dead
Froggy Ruminations ^ | October 16, 2004 | Matthew Heidt

Posted on 10/17/2004 2:25:45 AM PDT by billorites

You hadn't heard? Well, I'm not breaking news, President Bush knows damn well that UBL has been dead for quite some time. But why would Bush keep it to himself? If he were to disclose his knowledge that UBL is dead he would blow John Kerry's doors off in the election, and yet he remains silent. Why?

Maybe you're wondering how I know he's dead. Perhaps one of my SEAL buddies let me in on the secret? NO. I know because a publicity whore and grandstanding scumbag like UBL could not possibly resist the multitude of opportunites to inspire his cult members. His number 1, Zwahiri, has appeared on video or audio broadcasts every few months since 9/11. UBL has not been heard from since Tora Bora despite developments in the GWOT in Afghanistan and Iraq that make it unthinkable for him to have remained silent. Not to mention successful attacks in Bali, Madrid, Turkey, and Jakarta to name a few that remain unremarked upon by UBL. The invasion and occupation of an Islamic state by the US and not a word. Elections held for the first time in Afghan history, and he had nothing to say about it in the lead up. AQ tried once early on to air a tape that never mentioned key developments in the Afghan campaign and was quickly discredited as an attempt to put one over on his followers by airing a previous recording. Zwahiri decided that it was better to just pretend that UBL was alive because there was no plausible martyr story to tell. UBL went out running for his life like a coward. He is dead. His remains are turds shat by scavenging animals in the mountains of Afghanistan blown by the wind and stomped on by US troops.

By why not make it public? After all, this is the one thing that could ensure the President's re-election. Have you noticed how coy DOD officials and high ranking officers are when the question is posed? They know. They certainly have intelligence to this effect. Of course, the President could have instructed subordinates to start saying that intel indicates UBL is dead. This would have put pressure on him to prove otherwise by issuing a statement which he is clearly unable to make. This process could have started 6 months ago, and if UBL did not answer, it would in effect prove the case. But it didn't happen. Why not?

Because the President knows that making UBL a martyr would serve to further inspire his minions, and he realizes that preventing this from happening is more important than his re-election. Instead, UBL remains forever silent even as his recruits yearn to hear his voice. Eventually these cultists will realize themselves that UBL went out like a punk, not a martyr and that the AQ head shed has been lying to them for years. That realization combined with US combat boots knocking their teeth down their throats will go a long way to beating this cult into submission. But it is important to recognize that the President's committment to killing terrorists supercedes his committment to his own re-election. I'm sure he hopes that the American people will come to this conclusion on their own and vote for him anyway, but it is quite a risk to take in the ultimate ME situation.

This kind of integrity and committment stands in stark contrast to his opponent. Kerry has proved to be a Blue Falcon, a traitor, a louse, a shameless opportunist, and an lazy bureaucrat that pads his resume. Kerry is a smart guy too, and he realizes what is going on. But it hasn't stopped him from trying to bait the President into abandoning a critical propaganda victory in the GWOT by incessantly peddling his Tora Bora "outsourcing" charge in all three debates. He knows that the President will not respond to this charge so he is free to make it. Just like the Cheney lesbian scheme, this is a coordinated hatchet job, but this is on an issue that Kerry knows the President must choose to either defend the SOF troops that got the job done or remain silent. To his personal credit he never took the bait, but to his professional detriment he must let an unanswered charge linger. Do you have that kind of discipline? Especially in crunchtime? I don't know if I do, and I'll be happy to never have to find out.

President Bush, meanwhile, has just continued to keep the pressure on the terrorists, get us out of a recession, protect the homeland, and generally put the country's interests ahead of his own. He deserves your vote.


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To: wvromania

Osama's bin Laden to rest.


61 posted on 10/17/2004 7:52:55 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: Voltage
I agree, OBL is dead.

I loved this line:


His remains are turds shat by scavenging animals in the mountains of Afghanistan blown by the wind and stomped on by US troops.



62 posted on 10/17/2004 8:06:42 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Wombat101

IIRC his "doc" has confirmed that the dialysis rumor is not true. I wonder about the recent reports that he is in Iran?

If Bush announced UBL's death 48 hours b4 the election it would put Kerry in a quandry...does he praise it, or say it is for political gain at the expense of exposing himself as the traitor he is????

The latter of course...Kerry would convert to Southern Baptist and heal a quadraplegic.... to get elected.


63 posted on 10/17/2004 8:51:13 AM PDT by southernbuck
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To: southernbuck
I wonder about the recent reports that he is in Iran?

As long as he isn't *officially* dead he can be sighted anywhere we need him to be sighted.

Once he's *officially* dead the dims will declare the WOT over and demand all our troops return to US soil.

64 posted on 10/17/2004 8:58:42 AM PDT by null and void (Break the window, John Smallberries. Why ME, John Bigbooty? It might be booby-trapped. Ah! *SMASH*)
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To: billorites
The only justification for UBL being dead in this article is that he has not been seen or heard from since the war began. This in itself is not proof of anything.

If he is dead, how come his minions haven't leaked it out or promoted his martyrdom? The claim that if he were killed or captured were made public, there would be no more justifying the war is like saying since we've captured Saddam the war in Iraq is over.

This is nothing more than a conspirocy theory and a BIG one at that.

65 posted on 10/17/2004 9:03:32 AM PDT by slimer ( No pain, no palm; no thorns, no throne; no gall, no glory; no cross, no crown.)
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To: JaguarXKE

LOL! So THAT'S where OBL's been hiding - on Hannity & Colmes! :0)


66 posted on 10/17/2004 10:21:20 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: billorites

Uasama isn't dead, just overwhelmed with work inventorying all of those virgins for the brotherhood.


67 posted on 10/17/2004 10:23:15 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: MadIvan
Ah, the tube. "Mind the gap. Mind the gap."
I haven't been to Great Britain since 95. I sure do
miss old London Town....Covent Gardens, Leicester Sq., Piccadilly, Haymarket Theater.
I need to get back there.
68 posted on 10/17/2004 11:00:53 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: billorites
I've been yelling this for a long time. When his 'messages' started coming to us in the form a cassette tape, I mean, come on, the guy can't scrounge together a handycam?
He's obviously worm food.
69 posted on 10/17/2004 11:02:32 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: mikegi
Video? Are you sure? I thought the video claim in this article was wrong but then I realized that most of the UBL communications since Tora Bora have been audio tapes. When was the last UBL video?

Maybe you're right - I'll have to look it up to know for sure when his last video was released.
70 posted on 10/17/2004 10:39:53 PM PDT by Jaysun (HAVE YOU GIVEN ALL YOU CAN TO RALPH NADER??????)
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To: JaguarXKE

Not Colmes. Michael Jackson.


71 posted on 10/17/2004 10:49:43 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Dallas59


Where's Osama?

72 posted on 10/17/2004 10:55:12 PM PDT by Rastus (Forget it, Moby! I'm voting for Bush!)
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To: billorites

Maybe Bush hasn't announced it because we can't prove it and no one will believe it without proof.

I have though this for a long time.


73 posted on 10/17/2004 11:00:33 PM PDT by mombrown1
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To: billorites
I thought there had been audio tapes from him that were confirmed to be his voice. Other insiders claim he is living inside Iraq or Pakistan, disguised as a cleric.

I'm more curious why we haven't seen Mansoor Ijaz around lately. He usually has the inside dope on what's happening in the Muslim world and this sort of topic would be right up his alley.

74 posted on 10/17/2004 11:03:10 PM PDT by MHT
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To: mombrown1

Me too.


75 posted on 10/17/2004 11:13:34 PM PDT by television is just wrong (Our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens.)
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To: billorites
Your analysis is top notch. President Bush has a winning strategy and he is not going to let Kerry and his minions bait him to do the wrong thing.

One more thing that I might add is the Weapons of Mass Dist-ruction issue. Anyone with half a brain knows that the WMD's do exist. However, in the chess game of geopolitics, that truth must be kept in the background noise, where you and I are pinging and blogging. President Bush will never say, 'the WMD's exist and I know where they are.' This is a critical game of strategy to be played. Because Kerry knows that Bush cannot reveal the truth of the matter, he not only says they never existed to justify going in to get them, but also repeats the mantra of the left that says President Bush lied about their existence to justify going in to avenge his father's failure in Gulf War I.

That Kerry would use for his own advantage the limitations posed by national security strategy shows the buttons he is willing to push to further his own ends. If he were to have the buttons of power at his disposal as President, the question for my fellow Freerepublicers is, to what extent would Kerry circumvent the Constitution to further the cause of socialism?

76 posted on 10/17/2004 11:18:08 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: jonrick46

My slip of the mouse: dist-ruction = destruction. Sorry.


77 posted on 10/17/2004 11:31:33 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: billorites

Last night I was listening to a high ranking Special Forces guy on the Royal Marshal radio show. I can't remember if he was an officer or enlisted. He was with the Special Forces for over 25 years.

Nevertheless, he said through his contacts the OBL is dead. We got him on Dec 15, 2001. He had been identified by multiple intelligence groups. Our Special Forces units cornered him into a cave with 5 entrances. He said we pounded the gave with C-130 Gunship, and B-1 bombers for 7 hours.


This guy also said if someone would ask him to go get OBL. He would first ask them to prove it he was still alive.

I just thought you might find that interesting. There are three reasons I think this would be kept a secret.

1) To keep the rest of the terrorist network uniformed that their spiritual leader is dead
2) To prevent OBL from becoming a Martyr, and to prevent new OBLs.
3) To prevent the DemRats from saying well the war on terror has been one.


Just thought you would like to know.


78 posted on 10/20/2004 9:38:34 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: billorites

Last night I was listening to a high ranking Special Forces guy on the radio. I can't remember if he was an officer or enlisted. He was with the Special Forces for over 25 years.

Nevertheless, he said through his contacts the OBL is dead. We got him on Dec 15, 2001. He had been identified by multiple intelligence groups. Our Special Forces units cornered him into a cave with 5 entrances. He said we pounded the gave with C-130 Gunship, and B-1 bombers for 7 hours.


This guy also said if someone would ask him to go get OBL. He would first ask them to prove it he was still alive.

I just thought you might find that interesting. There are three reasons I think this would be kept a secret.

1) To keep the rest of the terrorist network uniformed that their spiritual leader is dead
2) To prevent OBL from becoming a Martyr, and to prevent new OBLs.
3) To prevent the DemRats from saying well the war on terror has been one.


Just thought you would like to know.


79 posted on 10/20/2004 9:39:47 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: Sprite518

The Show was the Royal Marshal show on 750AM WSB in Atlanta. It comes on at 9PM.


80 posted on 10/20/2004 9:41:00 AM PDT by Sprite518
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