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Usama bin Laden is Dead
Froggy Ruminations ^ | October 16, 2004 | Matthew Heidt

Posted on 10/17/2004 2:25:45 AM PDT by billorites

You hadn't heard? Well, I'm not breaking news, President Bush knows damn well that UBL has been dead for quite some time. But why would Bush keep it to himself? If he were to disclose his knowledge that UBL is dead he would blow John Kerry's doors off in the election, and yet he remains silent. Why?

Maybe you're wondering how I know he's dead. Perhaps one of my SEAL buddies let me in on the secret? NO. I know because a publicity whore and grandstanding scumbag like UBL could not possibly resist the multitude of opportunites to inspire his cult members. His number 1, Zwahiri, has appeared on video or audio broadcasts every few months since 9/11. UBL has not been heard from since Tora Bora despite developments in the GWOT in Afghanistan and Iraq that make it unthinkable for him to have remained silent. Not to mention successful attacks in Bali, Madrid, Turkey, and Jakarta to name a few that remain unremarked upon by UBL. The invasion and occupation of an Islamic state by the US and not a word. Elections held for the first time in Afghan history, and he had nothing to say about it in the lead up. AQ tried once early on to air a tape that never mentioned key developments in the Afghan campaign and was quickly discredited as an attempt to put one over on his followers by airing a previous recording. Zwahiri decided that it was better to just pretend that UBL was alive because there was no plausible martyr story to tell. UBL went out running for his life like a coward. He is dead. His remains are turds shat by scavenging animals in the mountains of Afghanistan blown by the wind and stomped on by US troops.

By why not make it public? After all, this is the one thing that could ensure the President's re-election. Have you noticed how coy DOD officials and high ranking officers are when the question is posed? They know. They certainly have intelligence to this effect. Of course, the President could have instructed subordinates to start saying that intel indicates UBL is dead. This would have put pressure on him to prove otherwise by issuing a statement which he is clearly unable to make. This process could have started 6 months ago, and if UBL did not answer, it would in effect prove the case. But it didn't happen. Why not?

Because the President knows that making UBL a martyr would serve to further inspire his minions, and he realizes that preventing this from happening is more important than his re-election. Instead, UBL remains forever silent even as his recruits yearn to hear his voice. Eventually these cultists will realize themselves that UBL went out like a punk, not a martyr and that the AQ head shed has been lying to them for years. That realization combined with US combat boots knocking their teeth down their throats will go a long way to beating this cult into submission. But it is important to recognize that the President's committment to killing terrorists supercedes his committment to his own re-election. I'm sure he hopes that the American people will come to this conclusion on their own and vote for him anyway, but it is quite a risk to take in the ultimate ME situation.

This kind of integrity and committment stands in stark contrast to his opponent. Kerry has proved to be a Blue Falcon, a traitor, a louse, a shameless opportunist, and an lazy bureaucrat that pads his resume. Kerry is a smart guy too, and he realizes what is going on. But it hasn't stopped him from trying to bait the President into abandoning a critical propaganda victory in the GWOT by incessantly peddling his Tora Bora "outsourcing" charge in all three debates. He knows that the President will not respond to this charge so he is free to make it. Just like the Cheney lesbian scheme, this is a coordinated hatchet job, but this is on an issue that Kerry knows the President must choose to either defend the SOF troops that got the job done or remain silent. To his personal credit he never took the bait, but to his professional detriment he must let an unanswered charge linger. Do you have that kind of discipline? Especially in crunchtime? I don't know if I do, and I'll be happy to never have to find out.

President Bush, meanwhile, has just continued to keep the pressure on the terrorists, get us out of a recession, protect the homeland, and generally put the country's interests ahead of his own. He deserves your vote.


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To: billorites

I'd love it if Rummy put bin Laden's stuffed head on the wall in his office.


41 posted on 10/17/2004 5:33:19 AM PDT by hershey (i)
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To: MadIvan

Unfortunately, like fleas on a hounddog, his murderous minions infest the world. Yes, London, Ireland, Europe, etc.. 'Come, Watson, the game's afoot!' indeed.


42 posted on 10/17/2004 5:36:30 AM PDT by hershey (i)
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To: billorites

I, too, believe Osama Been Lyin' is dead. The problem I have with the explanation is when he mentioned it in the debates, the president emphatically said, (paraphrased) we have killed or camptured 75% of his members and we'll get him too.

I think the military and CIA intelligence believe he is dead but they just cannot prove it. I see no reason not to declare him dead on, say, October 31st, or November 1st and let Kerry prove otherwise. If OBL were alive, he wouldn't have time to make a new video, ship it to Al Jazeera by Donkey Express and get it shown on world wide TV before the election was over. This would be a Karl Rove special.


43 posted on 10/17/2004 5:43:23 AM PDT by JohnEBoy
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To: billorites

Further "proof" that UBL is takin' the dirt nap:

1. No one has claimed the $25 million bounty on his head.
2. No campaign contribution check signed by UBL has been submitted to the FEC for review by the democratic party.
3. UBL has not mysteriously appeared in France, living the good life on the Riviera.
4. The number of flies in Afghanistan has multiplied exponentially, approaching biblical numbers.
5. There are no credible reports of a near-7 foot man wandering the mountains of Afghanistan/Pakistan dragging a dialysis machine behind him.
6. UBL has not made an appearance on 60 Minutes.
7. Elanor Clift has STILL not gotten laid.
8. UBL has not shown up triumphantly in the streets of Tehran, leading the annual "We live in a third-world sh*thole day" parade.
9. He hasn't made an appearance on Oprah.
10. He hasn't been seen starring in a democratic party attack ad questioning GW's National Guard service.

Just food for thought...


44 posted on 10/17/2004 5:52:32 AM PDT by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection....)
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To: billorites
President Bush, meanwhile, has just continued to keep the pressure on the terrorists, get us out of a recession, protect the homeland, and generally put the country's interests ahead of his own. He deserves your vote.


45 posted on 10/17/2004 5:56:15 AM PDT by Samwise (It must be scary to be trapped in John Kerry's mind. No wonder he's nuts.)
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To: billorites
"Because the President knows that making UBL a martyr would serve to further inspire his minions,"
And those minions dont wanna admit OBL is/was anything less than 'bulletproof' as far as infidels are concerned.
"and he realizes that preventing this from happening is more important than his re-election."
Maybe, maybe not...very possible. If true it says more for GWB than almost any President this century.
"Instead, UBL remains forever silent even as his recruits yearn to hear his voice."
Maybe kidney failure? Any way, any how, lets hope he is dust in the wind.
"Eventually these cultists will realize themselves that UBL went out like a punk, not a martyr and that the AQ head shed has been lying to them for years."
The 'head-shed's of Islam have been lying to their adherents for decades, if not centurys...whats one more lie?
46 posted on 10/17/2004 6:00:56 AM PDT by 45semi (A Kennedy speaking, and the wind from me arse, have a suspicious resemblance...)
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To: MadIvan

Mind the gap!


47 posted on 10/17/2004 6:03:24 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: billorites



^ New Image From Mars! ^
48 posted on 10/17/2004 6:13:59 AM PDT by BlindGuardian ("You'll pay for this Captain Planet!")
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To: billorites

yes I agree, he is dead. The last video we saw of him he was very weak and sick. Remember him seated beside someone and the other man did the talking. OBL could barely hold his head up and his left arm appeared to hang lifeless by his side. Maybe he did by a bomb strike but he could just have easily died from natural causes. I wish someone had that tape or stills from it. The 2 were seated in front of water, a river or a lake.


49 posted on 10/17/2004 6:15:39 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Wombat101

LOLOLOL!


50 posted on 10/17/2004 6:22:51 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: billorites

The hard part is proving he's dead. He can be proven alive, but if he's a dark smear in a cave full of rubble it's kinda hard to prove he isn't.


52 posted on 10/17/2004 6:35:38 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: billorites

53 posted on 10/17/2004 6:50:27 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: billorites

I think he's alive but has to stay in hiding so he can stay alive. But I hope he's dead.


54 posted on 10/17/2004 6:55:09 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (,)
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To: billorites
Remember at the debate when "they" tried to nail Bush with his quote that he "wasn't worried about Osama Bin Laden"?

Bush fuzzed that up by saying "of course we're on the hunt for him"... but maybe that quote represented a little slip, and he has good reason to believe that OBL is gone-gone?

55 posted on 10/17/2004 7:09:32 AM PDT by alley cat
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To: Jaysun
Three years? No way. He released a video right after we started kicking a** in the Middle East, and that didn't start until March '03

Video? Are you sure? I thought the video claim in this article was wrong but then I realized that most of the UBL communications since Tora Bora have been audio tapes. When was the last UBL video?

56 posted on 10/17/2004 7:10:06 AM PDT by mikegi
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To: billorites

BUMP


57 posted on 10/17/2004 7:12:35 AM PDT by SweetCaroline
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To: billorites

I agree is is a Black Velvet Osama...

Everyone in MSM seems to forget what Rumsfield and Bush told you prior to war......If we get him, we won't be able to tell you due to security reasons, if we don't, the same.
Not quoated exactly...but I remember them saying this VERY CLEARLY.


58 posted on 10/17/2004 7:17:18 AM PDT by wvromania
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To: COBOL2Java

Why are you posting a picture of Alan Colmes in a thread about UBL?

Jag

59 posted on 10/17/2004 7:22:12 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: billorites

Patty Murray must be sad.


60 posted on 10/17/2004 7:22:56 AM PDT by PGalt
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