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Van Odell Cleans Colmes’ Unprofessional Clock

Posted on 10/16/2004 4:45:12 PM PDT by Screaming Eagle Red Leg

Sorry [not really] about the vanity, but something happened last night on Hannity & Colmes that really burned me up.

Swiftie Van Odell was on and when Colmes got his turn, he claimed that some Vietnamese civilians had come out and taken Kerry’s side about the incident where Kerry had pursued and killed either a teenager or a young man … the “loincloth” incident, and that the Swifties’ accusation was therefore false.

Odell, very calmly, pointed out that their charge was not based on anything a Swiftie was saying, but came from Kerry’s own words in Tour of Duty. Odell even gave Colmes the page number where Kerry had said it.

Colmes, ever the A-hole, kept insisting that the Swifties had been debunked. Colmes wouldn’t even acknowledge Odell’s reference to Kerry’s book and the page number and the fact that the basis of the charge came directly from Kerry’s own words. Between Hannity’s arrogance/big mouth and Colmes’ gross lack of professionalism, I’ve about had it with H&C.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aidscorpse; colmes; hannity; kerry; sbvft; swiftboatvets; swiftvets; vanodell
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Did anyone else see this?
1 posted on 10/16/2004 4:45:12 PM PDT by Screaming Eagle Red Leg
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

The only thing worth watching on Fox anymore is Brit Hume's Special Report -- the best news hour -- bar none -- on television.


2 posted on 10/16/2004 4:48:55 PM PDT by Maceman (Too nuanced for a bumper sticker)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

Yep. He shot colmes right out of the sky. Colmes crashed and burned ....but, like every liberal democrat, colmes just kept repeating the lie like a mantra. (For the record: Hannity has redeeming value. He is on the Right side.)


3 posted on 10/16/2004 4:50:29 PM PDT by NetValue (They're not Americans, they're democrats. They hate the US Constitution.)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

Didn't see it - I still try to watch H&C for at least 5 minutes most evenings, but I cannot bear any more of Colmes' snippy, smarmy, disingenuous rantings. He's better than many leftists in that he's not (usually) openly rude, but I just can't listen to him blather DNC talking points anymore.


4 posted on 10/16/2004 4:50:58 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

Liberalism is a mental disease and facts just upset the victims!


5 posted on 10/16/2004 4:52:55 PM PDT by Woogit
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To: Maceman; Chieftain; Naomi4

I love Brit Hume...this is one gutsy guy that is not full of himself...Yeah, Colmes is getting on my nerves too, he is so whiny. Hannity's exhuberance is cute but he sure does repeat himself a lot. He really drove that Mary Cheney story into the ground, when there were so many other issues.


6 posted on 10/16/2004 4:53:19 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Eating more ice cream bars to get through this election.)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

No, but thank you for the slam on Sean Hannity's lack of/crude stylistics and preparation. I am so bored with him, sorry to say. NO depth of character that shows, he rarely does his research and he's just this cheerleader for the right that gets me because it is so broad and crude in its sweep. Rush, for all his bluster, is ten times more subtle and effective than Sean. Sean, grow up. It's not high school anymore. Mouthing political slogans, even though they may be "right" does NOT do us on the right any good. As for Colmes, Sean just doesn't want to risk his professional friendships to really nail him to the wall.

There are absolutes, Sean H., and you've got the microphone to take the message home. Do it -- quit pussyfooting around with pandering to "Flipper" b.s. and all the rest. It's tired.


7 posted on 10/16/2004 4:54:02 PM PDT by Californiajones ("The apprehension of beauty is the cure for apathy" - Thomas Aquinas)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

Alan Colmes, although I've heard that off stage he is a very kind man and a gentleman, reminds me of Eleanor Clift, in that he can never find anything wrong with a fellow democrat. I don't watch Hannity and Colmes all the time, but the times I have seen it, this is always the case. On the other hand, most conservative journalists WILL criticize when members of their party screw up. The only conservative that would fit that similar mold as described above would be Fred Barnes. He is the eternal optimist.


8 posted on 10/16/2004 4:56:13 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg
I didn't see it, but have to say that H rarely takes C on anymore.. they put the guest in the middle and leave it at that. Hannity seems to be more concerned with his radio show, plugging his books, and greasing the skids for running for office someday. I certainly give him credit for being a VERY VERY hardworking guy, but the TV show seems to be less important to him, when in reality, it's the visual that more people respond to. He needs to demand more focus and debate, but seems happy to push the issue to exactly where it was before the 'segment' started, without resolution. That format is getting old, and more than annoying. Colmes comes across more and more as just a hack repeating talking point rather than explaining his OWN views and rationale. Rather weak.. and won't keep the audience numbers after the election,, IMO>.
9 posted on 10/16/2004 4:56:35 PM PDT by JesseJane (~On November 2, keep in mind what mattered most on 9-11.~)
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To: Enchante
He's better than many leftists in that he's not (usually) openly rude, but I just can't listen to him blather DNC talking points anymore.

It's mostly show. Sometimes it looks like he is actually frustrated to keep repeating the lines but he has his contract. As long as he is the 'minor' player and keeps getting 'whupped on' it's ok. As you said he is usually courteous and expresses admiration and friendship with some conservative guests.

10 posted on 10/16/2004 4:57:22 PM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: Maceman
> The only thing worth watching on Fox anymore is Brit Hume's Special Report

....EXCEPT right after a presidential debate. Can't stand to watch Brit's panel then.

11 posted on 10/16/2004 4:57:31 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

I saw it too. Hannity did fine with that maggot/early VVAW member/kerry co-conspirator Bobby Muller......Hannity had him cursing and trying to invoke the "you weren't even there" attempt to disqualify the facts Hannity was putting forth.

Bobby Muller is at least as responsible as kerry for the popular falsehoods about Vietnam Veterans.....and for LONGER than kerry....kerry just fell into step with him and the VVAW in 1970.


12 posted on 10/16/2004 4:58:35 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

>>Between Hannity’s arrogance/big mouth and Colmes’ gross lack of professionalism, I’ve about had it with H&C.<<

I couldn't agree more. Both of them are overpaid boneheads.


13 posted on 10/16/2004 4:58:38 PM PDT by SerpentDove ("Integrity, integrity, integrity." Even Kerry's dying mother knew he didn't have any.)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

Alan Colmes looks like the Crypt Keeper.


14 posted on 10/16/2004 4:58:39 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

I saw it, and Colmes got his clock cleaned. Colmes just repeats the RAT talking points without checking to see if it is true or not.


15 posted on 10/16/2004 4:59:13 PM PDT by JoeGar
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To: Enchante

I didn't see it either as my son had rented a movie and wanted to watch that on my DVD player. I used to like Colmes when he was just a liberal, but lately he has become really leftwing


16 posted on 10/16/2004 4:59:15 PM PDT by Kaslin (Stick a fork in Kerry, he is done)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg
I saw that program and it was the way all of the "Libs" argue this thing.

Alan Colmes doesn't even know enough about the whole;e thing to talk intelligently about it but they still try.

I'm pretty tired of the phoney BS on that program and about to give up watching it.
17 posted on 10/16/2004 4:59:15 PM PDT by Oldsailor
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To: Maceman

I keep Fox on a lot..but my "don't miss hour" is Special Report and I also watch Fox Sunday morning..I can't take Alan C anymore so I manage to miss most of night time Fox most of the time.


18 posted on 10/16/2004 5:00:32 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

What really gets me about Comes is when he comes out with his so-called proofs


19 posted on 10/16/2004 5:00:35 PM PDT by Kaslin (Stick a fork in Kerry, he is done)
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To: Screaming Eagle Red Leg

there was a long thread about this ongoing last night when it was on.....I didnt see it, I had missed it....but everyone really said Hannity got him good....so I waited up and watched it.....OH MY WORD Sean wiped the floor with that guy and even Alan Combs seemd sorta put off by his yelling and carrying on....what about that hammering on the desk and saying NiXON WAS IMPEACHED, NIXON WAS IMPEACHED.. HAHAHHA he was a MORON and really was hilarious... of course Nixon wasnt impeached, he resigned for the good of the country and the party.... it was truly a good watch, I must say....


20 posted on 10/16/2004 5:01:41 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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