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Should a Catholic Vote for Bush or Kerry
CatholicExchange.com ^ | 10-15-04 | Craig E. Richardson

Posted on 10/15/2004 8:36:54 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: Salvation

My parish priest has made it very clear that we have a litmus test for the president and that is abortion. Kerry fails that test.

Catholics are most certainly Christians. Is there any doubt among those of faith that God has his hand on George W. Bush. He is most certainly a man of God, of deep, sincere and unapologetic faith. In these desperate times it is a comfort to me to know that my President is on his knees in prayer seeking God's wisdom and guidance.

Does it bother anyone else that this country has gotten to the point that the news media wants the President to apologize for his faith? I am astonished at the negative comments made following each time our President tells of his faith, his prayers, and his devotion to God. We do live in strange times.


121 posted on 10/15/2004 11:02:05 PM PDT by Scales (Prevent outsourcing of national defense to France- Vote Bush Cheney)
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To: evets

I am Catholic and I would never vote for BUSH!


122 posted on 10/15/2004 11:07:33 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: patriciamary

A guy named John Kerry says the same thing. What is your point?


123 posted on 10/15/2004 11:16:54 PM PDT by Scales (Prevent outsourcing of national defense to France- Vote Bush Cheney)
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To: Scales

I was just making a statement


124 posted on 10/15/2004 11:36:01 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: Happygal
A Catholic should vote by their conscience.

A Catholic in good standing is one whose conscience is formed by the Doctrine's of the Catholic Church.

125 posted on 10/16/2004 3:27:10 AM PDT by Diva
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To: Happygal
My main concerns when I peruse a ballot is to see who will best benefit me fiscally! So, I guess THAT makes ME a bad Catholic.

If that is truely your only concern then yes it does.

126 posted on 10/16/2004 3:29:41 AM PDT by Diva
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To: Happygal
No, the Catholic Church - and my Bishop - is quite happy with his flock.

Ah yes, history is replete with bad bishops, just out of curiosity who is your bishop? I'm sure it isn't Chaput or Burke, I doubt it is even Maida.

127 posted on 10/16/2004 3:34:22 AM PDT by Diva
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To: Diva

The catholic church has become filled with bishops who are PC driven. The great moral debate in the church should be, as in days gone past, if you vote for an individual who practices genocide against the unborn, then do you not also participate directly in that sin? Does you soul not bear the same mark of eternal damnation?

many of our bishops, in their attempted teaching of their flock, have been blinded by PC and may have earned unto themselves the mark of eternal damnation.


128 posted on 10/16/2004 3:49:51 AM PDT by rockman
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To: Salvation
I looked her straight in the eye and said, "The abortion that Mr. Kerry supports kills 4,000 babies every day. I haven't heard any death reports from any war with those numbers, have you?"

She was speechless.

Excellent repost. Where I live and in my family, the Catholics from 50 yoa and down are voting for Bush (not that it will do much good in Illinois) while those somewhat older are voting Kerry. I presume that it is the "Catholic/Democrat" label reminiscent of John Kennedy.

The one way of quieting the louder Kerry supporters is to bring up the abortion issue. They simply quit arguing. Don't know if that changes any votes, but it does seem to end the political discussions.

129 posted on 10/16/2004 4:19:46 AM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (I think Kerry needs more cowbell.)
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To: Salvation; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; Radix; Kathy in Alaska; MoJo2001; LaDivaLoca; Fawnn; ...
As our minister once said,

"I'll make this a very blunt and straight statement, I don't know how anyone can go to church on Sunday, and vote for a democrat the following Tuesday."

130 posted on 10/16/2004 5:15:03 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Out of the mouths of democRATs come nothing but stupid words.)
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131 posted on 10/16/2004 5:42:55 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Salvation

A Catholic like any other legal citizen should vote for whom they feel is best to serve.....as long as it's Bush


132 posted on 10/16/2004 5:45:15 AM PDT by Gone_Postal (government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take it away)
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To: Salvation

It's very simple. If one of the persons is pro-choice and one is not, unless there are some very other outstanding reasons, you are cooperating with the evil of being pro abortion if you vote for the pro-abortion candidate.

I have some other reasons I don't hve problems with this as well. I think Bush has a lot more integrity, cares more for his people and less for his power than Kerry. I love the way he walks his faith walk, even if he isn't Catholic. I cringe every time I hear that Kerry receives communion. I LIKE Bush, I TRUST Bush, and I don't Kerry. Even if they were both pro-life, I would vote for Bush.


133 posted on 10/16/2004 6:53:01 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Giving Comfort to the Enemy Is Not Something A Presidential Candidate Should Do)
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To: Arrowhead1952
As our minister once said,
"I'll make this a very blunt and straight statement, I don't know how anyone can go to church on Sunday, and vote for a democrat the following Tuesday."


I opened my mind and began to study the issues because of something very similar that my pastor and one of the nicest guys I've ever known -- even though he never would let us know what the first initial of his name stands for -- said (when I was too young to vote) about Goldwater. He pretty much said, "I must follow the dictates of my faith, and therefore I support Goldwater." (Thank you Pastor A. Gail Dunn, wherever you are.) ;)
134 posted on 10/16/2004 11:09:30 AM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: Salvation
My answer:

W'04!

135 posted on 10/16/2004 12:51:25 PM PDT by Pippin
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To: Pippin

BTTT!


136 posted on 10/17/2004 10:45:58 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: austinaero

There was a longish piece I saw in the WSJ maybe a year or two ago -- a statement by a group of about 100 OB-GYNs stating that PBA is not and has never been a recognized medical procedure because there is no circumstance that calls for it. I'll try to google it, but it's hard to think how to search, since I can't recall any of the names (and I'm vague on when it appeared).


137 posted on 10/17/2004 10:54:03 AM PDT by maryz
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To: clee1
A "true" Catholic has no real choice in the matter. Kerry has violated most of the Church's teachings.

Bump for truth

138 posted on 10/17/2004 10:58:58 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: patriciamary
I am Catholic and I would never vote for BUSH!

Then you madam, are not different than John f'n kerry.CINO.That is Catholic in Name Only. Please leave this board and my Church. Neither have any need for phony's.

139 posted on 10/17/2004 11:03:38 AM PDT by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: austinaero
I don't know that this is the piece I remembered in my earlier post (it's only signed by four and is shorter than I recall), but no doubt the info is basically the same:

PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTION BAN ACT OF 1995--VETO MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES (H. DOC. NO. 104-198) -- (BY NANCY ROMER, PAMELA SMITH, CURTIS R. COOK, AND JOSEPH L. DECOOK). You'll have to scroll down a bit for the text.

140 posted on 10/17/2004 11:36:43 AM PDT by maryz
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