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1 posted on 10/15/2004 7:20:44 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel
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2 posted on 10/15/2004 7:23:06 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel
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Important development here. Pinging a few FReepers I thought might be interested.


3 posted on 10/15/2004 7:23:26 PM PDT by St. Johann Tetzel
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That ain't written on no 1973 typewriter!


4 posted on 10/15/2004 7:24:32 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (How important a Senator can you be if Dick Cheney's never told you to "go [bleep] yourself"?)
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Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark.


9 posted on 10/15/2004 7:26:06 PM PDT by Another-MA-Conservative
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10 posted on 10/15/2004 7:26:12 PM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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PING

From the 1983 Code of Canon Law:

Can. 1398 -- Qui abortum procurat, effectu secuto, in excommunicationem latae sententiae incurrit. ("A person who procures a successful abortion incurs an automatic excommunication.")

One of my favorite parts of Christianity is its clear moral absolutism.

12 posted on 10/15/2004 7:27:37 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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It can't happen quickly enough . . . can it?


13 posted on 10/15/2004 7:27:39 PM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: St. Johann Tetzel
The first paragraph says that this is "unofficial." That means it is the opinion of this theologian.

Until Ratzinger or JPII acts in an official capacity, (since excommunication is an official, external Church penalty), there is no excommunication.

14 posted on 10/15/2004 7:28:24 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I swim with the alligators in the fevered swamps of traditionalism. " Cardinal Fanfani)
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Would you all do me the favor of interpreting it for me.

Does this mean that Kerry IS excommunicated, that he MIGHT BE SOON excommunicated, that we are FAR FROM the day he gets excommunicated, that this process will NEVER get him excommunicated.

Your answer and any brief explanation would be appreciated. Thanks.


15 posted on 10/15/2004 7:28:26 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proudly Supporting BUSH/CHENEY 2004!)
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Bump this one!


16 posted on 10/15/2004 7:28:55 PM PDT by FR_addict
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Looks like JF'nK will have to become a Episcopalian.


17 posted on 10/15/2004 7:29:42 PM PDT by freebilly (Freebilly O'Reilly-- No Spin But Good Vibrations....)
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It's the right thing to do, but it will have some backlash. I know more angry 20-somethings (grown children) who resent being raised catholic and are now liberals just out of spite. Only a few folks that age I know are still faithful.


19 posted on 10/15/2004 7:30:07 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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It is October. I am surprised.


Thank you for the very good post.


20 posted on 10/15/2004 7:30:13 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: St. Johann Tetzel

The image source for your posted letter does not match the linked source. Plus the letter appears to be over a month old, so how is this a "dramatic development"?

I couldn't find the letter at your linked source.


22 posted on 10/15/2004 7:30:21 PM PDT by HighWheeler ("Hide not your talents. They for use were made. What's a sundial in the shade?" - Benjamin Franklin)
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It's promising. But unfortunately it will never see the light of day. My experience is that, at least on the parochial level, Catholic priests are very comfortable discussing the impact of political issues (such as abortion and capital punishment) on Catholicism; however, they are somewhat reluctant to promote or condemn individual politicians. In this respect, priests are very different from the Protestant clergy.


27 posted on 10/15/2004 7:34:06 PM PDT by wagglebee (Benedict Arnold was for American independence before he was against it.)
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I'm Roman Catholic.
I'm a conservative.
I'm a supporter of President Bush
I would bet on cats and dogs sleeping together before I would Kerry getting booted from the Church.

By the way...this is a bet I would love to lose.

29 posted on 10/15/2004 7:34:26 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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BTTT


37 posted on 10/15/2004 7:40:55 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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Yeah but Kerry says he does believe abortion is wrong. He just does not want to impose his belief on others. So it seems like he is weaseling out there. What he is doing is sinning because by voting to permit abortion he is materially co-operating with evil.

I don't think it's heresy what he is doing. But he is sinning. Make sense?

42 posted on 10/15/2004 7:51:47 PM PDT by DestroytheDemocrats
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Kerry has escalated this with his debate responses regarding his litmus test for Supreme Court justices:

Now, I will not allow somebody to come in and change Roe v. Wade.

The president has never said whether or not he would do that. But we know from the people he's tried to appoint to the court he wants to.

I will not. I will defend the right of Roe v. Wade.

45 posted on 10/15/2004 7:54:24 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (One Day at A Time || Blue Angel in PJs)
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Heresy. Excommunication. Will this be part of our public debate?


51 posted on 10/15/2004 7:58:17 PM PDT by narses (If you want ON or OFF my Catholic Ping List email me. + http://www.alamo-girl.com/)
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