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Kerry's Promises (Kerry insult to Italians)
Washington Times ^ | October 15, 2004 | Diana West

Posted on 10/15/2004 5:24:36 AM PDT by sidewalk

Italy, a nation that has bled for Iraq, is smarting anew over an old Kerry slap broadcast on Italian television this week. "The Iraqi army," Mr. Kerry said before the war, "is in such bad shape, even the Italian army could kick their butts."

So much for politesse, or lack thereof — something to expect in a Kerry administration.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: allyitaly; army; iraq; italian; italy; kerry; napalminthemorning; smear
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Another report from the internet states: "All Italy is abuzzing today about a Kerry gaffe aired last night on HBO in Italy. As reported in today's Corriere della Sera in Italy, Defense Minister Antonio Martino criticized John Kerry for an incredible remark that the conditions of the Iraqi Army were so bad that even the Italian Army could kick their a**es.

Martino remarked that Kerry, 'instead of saying what he thinks, should think about what he says.'"

1 posted on 10/15/2004 5:24:36 AM PDT by sidewalk
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To: sidewalk

I guess that means that as a half-Italian, I'd fight the Iraqi army to a draw.


2 posted on 10/15/2004 5:27:47 AM PDT by lapster
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To: sidewalk
Kerry denigrates the Italian army, refuses to acknowledge contributions from England and Poland, dismisses Iraqi casualties, calls the entire coalition a bunch of bribed pawns, and yet promises to build a better coalition.

He would be such a disaster.

3 posted on 10/15/2004 5:29:07 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: sidewalk

He DID think about it! Remember Italy is a STRONG ally of the US, so Italy is no friend of Kerry's...


4 posted on 10/15/2004 5:30:20 AM PDT by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: sidewalk

I thought I heard he made that remark some years ago. In any case it was kind of insulting, but then the Italian military has been the butt of jokes for a long time. I am Italian-American and don't want to be PC so I won't claim "victim" status here. But Kerry should know that some people are easily offended and making wisecracks about some ethnic groups is not a good idea. He already tried to kiss of the Polish-American vote by not including them as part of the US coalition.


5 posted on 10/15/2004 5:30:47 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: sidewalk

This needs to get to the Jersey and New York press.


6 posted on 10/15/2004 5:31:14 AM PDT by mabelkitty (W is the Peoples' President ; Kerry is the Elite Establishment's President)
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To: ClearCase_guy

'I wonder if the French definition of "arms" includes hacksaws?'

Or swords to the necks?

This is a good article hitting most of the concerns we have. Put together like this, it is amazing that his campaign still stands.


7 posted on 10/15/2004 5:31:36 AM PDT by bitt
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To: sidewalk

Keep talkin', Mr. and Mrs. JFK. Is there ANYBODY these people will NOT pi$$ off before the election, besides possibly the French and the terrorists??


8 posted on 10/15/2004 5:35:47 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: ClearCase_guy

Apparently, this is how Kerry would go about building alliances. (holding my sides)


9 posted on 10/15/2004 5:36:06 AM PDT by Angry Enough
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To: sidewalk

Let the Italians at him.

Actually, let my Italian mother-in-law at him.

She, herself, is a weapon of mass destruction!


10 posted on 10/15/2004 5:38:32 AM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: TNCMAXQ
But Kerry should know that some people are easily offended and making wisecracks about some ethnic groups is not a good idea

Maybe this is why he brought up the fictional character Tony Soprano at the debate as to not offend Italians any more than he already has
11 posted on 10/15/2004 5:39:25 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: sidewalk
This one Italian could kick Kerry's ass without even thinking about it:

"Now I'll show you how an Italian dies."

12 posted on 10/15/2004 5:41:53 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: sidewalk

As noted the other day by someone here, everytime Kerry tries to be funny he insults someone.


13 posted on 10/15/2004 5:43:23 AM PDT by johnb838 (MSPO: Main Stream Propaganda Organ)
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To: TNCMAXQ
You might be amused by this -- when I was young, I was told a joke which made no sense at all, but I was so young, I didn't realize it. In addition, the joke was told exactly backwards. Briefly:

The American military is trying to capture an island which is occupied by a single Italian soldier (perhaps in the South pacfic??). Wave after wave of US military power is hurled against the island, suffering 100% casualties. No one survives. Still, the lone Italian soldier remains in place. Finally, a massive attack by the Marines is thrown on to the beaches. From this attack, only 1 American survives to make it back to HQ. The Commander asks "What went wrong?" and the wounded marine says "There are two Italians on the the island!"

It's a dumb joke. But I just love the fact that this joke was (obviously) intended to tell the opposite story -- one American is a match for the entire Italian army. But it got twisted around, and was told to me as a joke about weak Americans. And I was so young, I just thought it was funny, even though I didn't really understand it.

When I got older, I learned about Ancient Rome, and the Renaissance. Not too many countries can measure up to the Italian achievements. For Kerry to make "an Italian joke" says a lot about his maturity.

14 posted on 10/15/2004 5:43:54 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

If people took history seriously, they would be amazed at the similarities between the Roman Republic and American government.


15 posted on 10/15/2004 5:49:26 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever ("...upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.")
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To: sidewalk

"Was he right? Not about voters' incomes, but, really, about anything? Was Mr. Kerry right to champion the cause of North Vietnam's brutal communist dictators? (They think so: The War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City depicts Mr. Kerry as a hero of its victory against the United States.) Was he right to boost the Soviet-supported Sandinista regime in Nicaragua? To knock the liberation of Marxist Grenada as a "bully's show of force"? To embrace the nuclear-freeze movement during the height of the Cold War? To vote against the first Gulf War? If Americans elect Mr. Kerry president, they will answer yes, validating a long career of uninterupted, unshakeable leftism that has opposed, time and again, the expansion of freedom and democracy."

Notice a trend in Kerry's actions?
He tends to FAVOR COMMUNISM!
And what do we call someone who favors communism?


16 posted on 10/15/2004 5:49:46 AM PDT by Edgerunner (The left ain't right. Hand me that launch pickle...)
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To: sidewalk

The true mark of a diplomat...insult your allies. </sarcasm>


17 posted on 10/15/2004 5:54:07 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: sidewalk

My wife is Italian, and she is furious this morning. Although she can't vote in this election (Italian Citizen) She has been a stalwart Supporter of President Bush. She has passed out more registration cards than I have!!!!


18 posted on 10/15/2004 5:59:21 AM PDT by Leofl (Mad as hell and I ain't gonna take it anymore)
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To: Rutles4Ever

Here, here. Fabrizio Quattrocchi was ten times the man John F'n Kerry could ever hope to be.


19 posted on 10/15/2004 6:07:05 AM PDT by gridlock (BARKEEP: Why the long face? HORSE: Ha ha, old joke. BARKEEP: Not you, I was talking to JF'n Kerry!)
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To: boxerblues

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Maybe this is why he brought up the fictional character Tony Soprano at the debate as to not offend Italians any more than he already has"

Ironically, James Gandolfini supports Kerry for pres.

On the other hand, the guy who plays Pauly Walnuts is supporting Dubya. :)


20 posted on 10/15/2004 6:07:59 AM PDT by adam_az (Call your State GOP office and volunteer!)
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