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“This Guy Thinks We’re All Idiots” Dubya gets Kerry. Americans gotta love that!
National Review Online ^ | 10/14/2004 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 10/14/2004 4:47:29 PM PDT by IndianPrincessOK

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To: IndianPrincessOK
"As for Iraq, that's even more muddled. It certainly is true that Iraq is going poorly in many respects."

I'm really getting tired of hearing people regurgitate this mantra.

We conquered a 29-year dictator's army in 29 days. MOST of the country is rebuilt or in the process -- new schools, hospitals. Work is rebounding. OF COURSE there are a few pockets of Ba'athists and terrorists from Syria and Iran. But that is far and away isolated and we are weeding them out.

It took our country over two years to debate and decide upon the Constitution. They think a country that was as oppressed and abused as Iraq is going to be fixed in a year or two?

Whether Iraq is muddled is a matter of personal perspective and hinges on what one can realistically expect. I, for one, think things are going well in Iraq considering the Herculean goal we set, the difficult obstacles, and how much success we've had.
21 posted on 10/14/2004 5:17:40 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: gitmo

Oh, I forgot to add. Another trick that Kerry is using is this. Bush extended unemployment benefits. Everyone who applied for that extension was counted again as unemployed. So each person was ONE unemployed, for the first filing and a SECOND unemployed after filing for the extension.

This doesn't flub the "number of jobs lost" numbers, but it certainly skews the "jobless claims" and "unemployed" numbers.


22 posted on 10/14/2004 5:21:08 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (I'm fresh out of tags. I'll pick some up tomorrow.)
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To: gitmo

Assume we start with 100 people.

Half have jobs.

The population grows 50% to 150 people.

Half have jobs.

There are now 75 people without jobs.

Net loss of jobs in Ratspeak.

More jobs than ever before in reality.

Irrelevant in either case.


23 posted on 10/14/2004 5:21:32 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: gitmo

People who have lost jobs, and started their own businesses are not counted in the labor report. Pres. Bush said in the third debate that there has been an enormous increase in small businesses. That makes a big difference in the labor report.

Nonetheless, the unemployment rate is only 5.4 or 5.5 which is lower than during the Clinton regime when the MSM were saying how wonderful that figure is.


24 posted on 10/14/2004 5:22:03 PM PDT by kitkat
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To: LibertarianInExile

Like the school lunch cuts? I get it. Thanks.


25 posted on 10/14/2004 5:25:07 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

"...hey, John... yo' mama so fat she eats
Wheat Thicks... hahaha..."

"...oh, yeah... well, John... yo' mama so
fat she gotta pull down her pants to get
into the pockets for yo' allowance... hehehe..."


26 posted on 10/14/2004 5:26:29 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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To: IndianPrincessOK
“This Guy Thinks We’re All Idiots” Dubya gets Kerry. Americans gotta love that.

I'm sorry Jonah. I don't know what language this is supposed to be, but it certainly is not English. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that these scribblings were meant to be meaningful, I am at a total loss trying to parse this into meaningful statements. The standards at NR have plummeted since WFB left active editorialship.

27 posted on 10/14/2004 5:35:43 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Graybeard58

very quick and glib reply. not very accurate, though.


28 posted on 10/14/2004 5:39:13 PM PDT by phxaz (for now it's a cold civil war in the usa.)
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To: IndianPrincessOK
John Kerry is a better talker.

I just do not get this!! John Kerry is a boring, condescending DRONE when he talks!! I cannot even stand to listen to the man, so there's no way I'd even hear what he had to say.

29 posted on 10/14/2004 5:42:19 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

Calvin Coolidge had two things Kerry lacks: integrity and a sense of humor. (He liked to play practical jokes.)


30 posted on 10/14/2004 5:45:41 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: IndianPrincessOK
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31 posted on 10/14/2004 5:50:56 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: IndianPrincessOK

Every time I hear sKerry say " I have a plan" , I scream at the TV or Radio:

"Custer had a plan, too"!!!!!

Is that what he is going to tell leaders of nations all around the world if he gets into the White House? "I have a plan".

This sounds like McGiver on a global scale.....


32 posted on 10/14/2004 5:53:20 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: kingattax
W definitely won

W won the last 2 debates. I don't care what the polls say. Dems aren't honest enough to EVER admit that "dumb" Bush could possibly beat Kerry in a debate.

I saw these debates. Bush won.

33 posted on 10/14/2004 5:54:14 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: gitmo
1.? million jobs were lost because of the Sept 11th attacks but Bush can't come out and say that publicly because it would encourage more attacks.
34 posted on 10/14/2004 5:56:08 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: gitmo

Democrats in general only want to count people who are on a "payroll", drawing a check signed by someone else. Self-employed persons like myself are NOT counted in their methods. In the past years, many more people are going into business for themselves, so sKerry counts them as people who have "Lost" their jobs. The fact that we "found" a new method of supporting ourselves, doesn't count for sKerry and the Democrats.

"Poverty" levels are also formulated to not count ANYONE who is NOT on a payroll. Goes back to Johnson and his GREAT WAR ON POVERTY....

Hence, self-employeds, trust fund babies, and even Thereza Heinz Kerry are considered "Poverty level" persons in the USA. I have a real hard time looking at Thereza and her 5 or 6 homes and considering her "poverty-stricken".


35 posted on 10/14/2004 5:58:13 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Oh, I forgot to add. Another trick that Kerry is using is this. Bush extended unemployment benefits. Everyone who applied for that extension was counted again as unemployed. So each person was ONE unemployed, for the first filing and a SECOND unemployed after filing for the extension.

This doesn't flub the "number of jobs lost" numbers, but it certainly skews the "jobless claims" and "unemployed" numbers.""

I thought sKerry accused Bush last night of NOT extending the unemployment benefits.

Which is it? You may be correct, I may have heard it wrong. sKerry makes me so mad when he starts his moaning, I start to not concentrate.


36 posted on 10/14/2004 6:01:23 PM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: IndianPrincessOK
John Kerry is a sphincter.

LOL - didn't need to read any further.

Just give kerry a double dose of Preparation-H!

37 posted on 10/14/2004 6:04:17 PM PDT by mombonn (kerry . . . he spent 20 years in the Senate and doesn't have much to show for it. ¡Viva Bush/Cheney!)
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To: mombonn
John Kerry is a sphincter.

I almost splattered my monitor reading that line.

38 posted on 10/14/2004 6:05:32 PM PDT by Betis70 (I'm only Left Wing on my hockey team)
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To: phxaz
not very accurate, though.

Not glib - concise - and accurate as to the claims of the left.

It's the democrat's claim that a net loss of jobs has occurred because the population has increased and the corresponding number of jobs hasn't kept pace.

It's a lot more complicated than that but I answered the question that was asked. I didn't address the whole issue because that wasn't the point.

39 posted on 10/14/2004 6:05:39 PM PDT by Graybeard58
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To: ridesthemiles
I thought sKerry accused Bush last night of NOT extending the unemployment benefits.

Which is it? You may be correct, I may have heard it wrong.


No, you didn't hear it wrong. C'mon man, think about who said it. As I told my 13 year old daughter, "how do we know when sKerry is lying? When his lips are moving."

Maybe you just forgot the /sarcasm tag. :-)
40 posted on 10/14/2004 6:17:50 PM PDT by Texas2step (<><)
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