Posted on 10/14/2004 8:47:17 AM PDT by Walkin Man
Google Founders on Hiring Trip to India
Oct 13, 3:18 PM (ET)
By S. SRINIVASAN
BANGALORE, India (AP) - Google Inc. (GOOG) founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin said Wednesday that some new features on the world's top search engine and other services will come from its research center in the southern Indian city of Bangalore, where they are on a hiring spree.
"One approach we are taking is that Bangalore is where we run a mirror exactly of what we have in the United States in terms of development," Brin told reporters in Bangalore, the capital of Karnataka state.
Page and Brin said they were visiting India looking for "extraordinary talented entrepreneurial people who want to make a big change in the world."
Researchers in Bangalore will work with their counterparts in Google's U.S. offices to conceptualize new services and develop software, they said.
This includes developing search engines that will present results based on speech input or drawings, ones that will work in more languages than at present, personalizing search results to suit individual preferences, and new features for Google's new e-mail service, they said.
Google set up offices in the southern Indian cities of Bangalore and Hyderabad earlier this year. Brin said Google was in fact "too late" in tapping Indian talent.
"We would have preferred to do it sooner. But there are only so many things we can do at once. It is a fast growing business," he said.
Their comments came in Bangalore, their third stop in India, after New Delhi and Hyderabad earlier this week.
Google, based in Mountain View, California, runs an Internet business that revolves around its search engine - which covers 4.3 billion Web pages.
During their low-key visit, the two shopped in New Delhi's Connaught Place, rode in a three-wheel motorized rickshaw in Hyderabad and spent time like a "couple of sophomore backpackers doing India," the Times of India said.
They also called on Indian President A.P.J. Abdul Kalam.
Krishna Bharat, who created Google's news service, is now busy hiring in Bangalore. "We don't have a cap (on how many to hire). We will take in as many people as we can, if they meet our global standards," he said.
Bastards!! Unamerican ingrates. Trying to save money and raise productivity? Don't they know it's their American duty to lose money and go out of business so that all 323,000 employees lose their jobs?
Name calling is SO persuasive. Actually, it's the last refuge of those who can't argue the facts. You don't have the facts on your side and you're just whining because you lost your job. Sorry to present the hard truth to you.
Either you've got a good sarcastic sense of humor or you're dumb as a rock. That's done by so-called 'google-bombing' and has nothing to do with the ownwers or programmers.
no offense - but you are nuts. not only are there plenty of documented incidents (and probably countless undocumented ones) of intellectual property thefts of US work via offshore conduits (Cisco alone had to battle to stop the Chinese from selling knock offs of their products, right down to the stolen operating system) - but the same offshore locations are one of the main sources of information for identity theft against US citizens (credit cards, personal information databases, etc).
"why would the Indians sell information of the US citizens whose businesses they tried so hard to court"? are you kidding me with that argument. Here's your answer: THEY DID IT FOR THE MONEY. Why did the Chinese rip off Cisco products? THEY DID IT FOR THE MONEY.
Forget it, this is enough of this nonsense for today.
and I gave you the same answers I am giving you today:
Right now, almost every new technology or industrial company with a business plan that gets VC funding past the startup phase - will have some component of offshore labor in it right away, from the start. So the jobs will not materialize right here in the US, directly out of the gate. The cycle which you correctly describe, has been dramatically altered now. Its not going to be like it was in the past.
You just better hope that your party with its insane anti-American illegal immigration and trade policies hasn't pushed enough people over the line into voting the demorats into power in November.
You're sort of skirting the point. But I'm curious about your source of these numbers, or should I expect the same "I'm not the bureau of labor statistics" brush off again?
Posted by tdadams:
"...Why would a company pay someone $80K a year when they can get the same production for $10K?..."
That's just it. The US companies are NOT getting the same production...not even close. My company has technical support in Chennai and Hyderabad and our customers are literally having fits over the customer service. It will be darn near IMPOSSIBLE to renew agreements with the way we've damaged business relationships due to outsourcing.
Typically, the technicians will give an anglicized name like "Ted" when they're really Atedirumulai Rassuvariathirumusao or something like that. Our clients call us to let us know they're working with "Ted" on an issue, but they can't find him. Well, we can't find him either because a search under that first name doesn't yield the person whom they seek. They use incompatible issue-tracking software, so we can't view the system to match the customer with an existing ticket and technician.
Secondly, with all the hiring happening there, fickle employees will jump ship for a few pennies without hesitation. The turnover is absolutely outrageous and training costs are escalating. Factor the security breaches, lost goodwill, and spaghetti code that someone in the USA must decipher and it's costing more than ten thousand dollars per year...
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~ Blue Jays ~
So you think it's a good thing for a company to create their own competition? In this case they are creating their own competition in an area of the world where security for a company's IP is very lax (Perhaps you missed this article on FR: Code Theft
Most companies highly value their IP and are very careful about who becomes knowledgeable in it, simply because they can create competition for themselves. I'm surprised you would think otherwise.
...Secondly, with all the hiring happening there, fickle employees will jump ship for a few pennies without hesitation. The turnover is absolutely outrageous and training costs are escalating. Factor the security breaches, lost goodwill, and spaghetti code that someone in the USA must decipher and it's costing more than ten thousand dollars per year
Yet another example and ringing endorsement for how and why markets should be allowed to work their magic.
No that's pretty close to flat out lying. No, it is lying. Period.
You know what we're talking about here. On the one hand we're talking about employment operations in India, and you want to equate that to mafia-type piracy operations in China. By resorting to such obvious and contemptible mendacity, you completely undermine your credibility and give us all a reason to take every word you say with the utmost of skepticism.
Yep, good idea. Your credibility is shot here. Better cut bait. Good riddance.
LOL!
Its so amusing to be called a leftist by free traders who are in bed with their communist buddies/masters in Red China!
LOL!
Then why all the ranting and raving? The problem will soon correct itself and American companies will return those jobs to Americans as they see the Indian call centers aren't quite the boon they expected.
Don't forget to include the Heritage Foundation too; it's the cornerstone of socialism.
I'd better warn you now that the "I don't collect this data myself" defense is usually followed by the "the information is there so find it yourself" defense. I think we saw it on this thread, as a matter of fact.
Valley hyperbole -- they want to "change the world" by being the next Microsoft. And I'm not short because they certainly have a chance to do it.
Remember Sun's slogan from a few years back, "the Network is the Computer"? Likely many such things, it wasn't wrong, just in the wrong time and place.
With full-text book searching, newsgroups, and opt-in indexing of corporate databases and directories, Google is vastly increasing its status as the leading knowledge base, as well as giving owners the ability to monetize knowledge (with a commission to Google).
The Google Browser due in 2005 is going to be a next generation quasi-operating system, the platform on which a variety of productivity, collaboration, entertainment, search and commerce tools will be built.
Where do companies and countries go to protect themselves against intellectual piracy? Gasp, the WTO! Since you are not, presumably, a big fan of that organization, what would you suggest that U.S. companies do to protect themselves? Shoot spitballs?
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