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October Surprise??? Navy Chief (from SBVT site)
SwiftVets.com ^

Posted on 10/12/2004 10:14:15 PM PDT by tazannie

I hope this is good


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: courtmarshal; courtmartial; dishonorabldischarge; kerrydischarge; kerrylies; lessthanhonorable; swiftboat; swiftboatvets; swiftvets
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To: birbear

But decideds with a conscience (barely clinging to Kerry ) can be persuaded to switch sides or not vote at all).


81 posted on 10/12/2004 10:46:24 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray for President Bush and our nation!!!!! The Lord is our Hope and Strength!!!!!)
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To: All

DATE: 12 October 2004
Could this be the headline?



CAMPAIGN UPDATE: The Petition for Indictment of John Kerry reached its
target of 150,000 signatures in September. (This petition for
indictment will remain online for informational purposes
[see http://patriotpetitions.us/], and will accept additional
signatures, which we will report each quarter after the petition for
indictment is filed.)


Dear Fellow Patriot,

The petition for indictment of John Kerry, for "giving aid and comfort
to the enemy," and, thus, to disqualify him for national office, has
reached its goal of more than 150,000 signatures. On Monday, 18
October, the petition will be delivered by registered courier to Vice
President Richard Cheney (in his capacity as Senate President), Senate
Majority Leader Bill Frist and Attorney General John Ashcroft today.

Though John Kerry has an extensive and well-documented record of anti-
American activities over the past three decades [see "John Kerry: More
aid and comfort..." at http://FederalistPatriot.US/alexander/], it is
his acts of treason in 1970-71 that are the subject of this petition
for indictment. Our appeal notes both Kerry's violations of the UCMJ
(Article 104 part 904) and U.S. Code (18 USC Sec. 2381 and 18 USC Sec.
953), and calls for his disqualification for public office in
accordance with the Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3,
which states: "No person shall be a Senator or Representative in
Congress, or elector of President and Vice- President ... having
previously taken an oath ... to support the Constitution of the United
States, [who has] engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the
same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof."


82 posted on 10/12/2004 10:46:48 PM PDT by Chuck54
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To: Jet Jaguar

I was just at the Swift Boat forum and saw this.

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12783

When I came back this thread was posted!


83 posted on 10/12/2004 10:47:36 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (GET OUT THE VOTE NOV 2 ! IF YOUR NEIGHBORS OR RELATIVES NEED A RIDE TO THE POLLS OFFER TO HELP)
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To: hipaatwo

Why would President Carter or an other Dem even bother to take a phone call from a Swift Boat Vet. Pres. Carter is one mean man. I am usually the poster child for optimism but this election is getting to me.


84 posted on 10/12/2004 10:48:21 PM PDT by Merry
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To: tazannie

hope it's something. Isn't there a rumor of something else existing that puts kerry's anti-war protests in a poor light?

What's carter got to do with this?


85 posted on 10/12/2004 10:48:23 PM PDT by madison46 (Give IRAN nuke fuel?? Your nutz)
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To: birbear

I agree with you. Not sure this will do anything in the election, unless it also shows that he had to change records to get honorably discharged, etc. If that's the case, then it could be really bad because I think his discharge happened only in the last 4 or 5 years.


86 posted on 10/12/2004 10:48:37 PM PDT by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I sure don't know what headline is going to be but if you look at the Rats tactics they attack their opponents on their own softspots. They've been hammering Bush on AWOL, his time in Alabama, etc.
Kerry's time commitment doesn't size up. I know things were loose in the Military as Viet Nam was winding down and Uncle Sam was trying to reduce forces. This should be interesting.


87 posted on 10/12/2004 10:49:07 PM PDT by pieces of time (No longer the "silent" majority.)
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To: birbear
Pardon me, but HYPOTHETICALLY if a future CIC running on his war record was dishonorably discharged, it does matter.

It matters a lot, and it adds more questions to this hypothetical person's integrity and credibility.
88 posted on 10/12/2004 10:49:12 PM PDT by Carling (What happened to Sandy Burglar's Docs?)
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To: zeebee
I just keep remembering all the stuff on clinton that everyone ignored.<<<<<<<

Aside from the more obvious Clinton stuff, I remember Larry Nichols having scoop that Hillary would be indicted in 30 days, Bill would resign, etc. How I hoped he was right, but alas.....

I hate to say it, but the more dirt that gets collected on Dems, the stronger their base seems to get. Nothing seems to bother Kerry supporters. I would be outraged if Bush was hiding really rotten stuff that could tip the election, but they don't care. Let's hope this is good.

89 posted on 10/12/2004 10:49:24 PM PDT by Mjaye (PNN = Pajama News Network)
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To: tazannie

Ping and check in the morning!


90 posted on 10/12/2004 10:49:26 PM PDT by fetts (Getting a straight answer from Kerry is like nailing jello to a tree)
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To: Merry

Didn't say the Swiftees were calling. Could be the press.


91 posted on 10/12/2004 10:49:27 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray for President Bush and our nation!!!!! The Lord is our Hope and Strength!!!!!)
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To: madison46

I've read speculation that Carter secretly pardoned Kerry......


92 posted on 10/12/2004 10:49:45 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: Mjaye

But the Clintons were in the White House then.


93 posted on 10/12/2004 10:49:59 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray for President Bush and our nation!!!!! The Lord is our Hope and Strength!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts
To all the doom & gloom freepers who think that a Dishonorable Discharge will not make that much difference, thin about this...

For a Presidential candidate, in the middle of a war, who opened his Convention with "Reporting For Duty" and who has said "I served in Vietnam" about 50 million times, and who has said "I defended this country as a young man and I will defend this country as President".....

For it to come out that he received a Dishonorable Discharge would be devastating to him....PERIOD!

94 posted on 10/12/2004 10:50:14 PM PDT by Viet-Boat-Rider (((KERRY IS A NARCISSISTIC LIAR, GOLDBRICKER, AND TRAITOR!)))
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To: hipaatwo
Secretary of the Navy under President Carter, W. Graham Clayton is getting a phonecall.

It's W. Graham Claytor, and unless I'm having a senior moment, he died some years ago.

95 posted on 10/12/2004 10:50:20 PM PDT by Publius
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To: birbear

No, but evidence of fraud obtaining a Silver Star, which he has displayed on his website over Lehman's signature, would be huge news.

If that's what it is.


96 posted on 10/12/2004 10:50:34 PM PDT by Judith Anne (First we were digital brownshirts then we were pajamahadeen, now we're the piranha of the internet)
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To: birbear

Don't forget the Swiftie's were quite active during the campaign then too. I think it's good for Bush to stay positive, but Kerry's record needs to be laid out. That's not negative. That's factual. Having said that, the Swiftie's have a mission before them, and that is to set the record straight. Some may call it negative, that's fine. They have a right to be heard! They've certainly earned it.


97 posted on 10/12/2004 10:50:36 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (W is for WOOD)
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To: birbear

> I'm sorry, but I think the Swift Boat thing, and the
> whole Vietnam story has played out and the "undecided"
> don't give a rat's a$$ about it any more.

Most of them get their info from the legacy press, who
have stone-walled the Swifty issue.

For whatever this is to have traction, it needs to be
something the legacy press can't ignore (or debunk).

Nonetheless, the Swifties have often been a bit naive
about our Pravda Press, and may be over-confident of
traction.

We'll know shortly.


98 posted on 10/12/2004 10:51:22 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Publius
It's W. Graham Claytor, and unless I'm having a senior moment, he died some years ago

Then it must be John Edwards doing the calling.

99 posted on 10/12/2004 10:52:03 PM PDT by GeronL (I was gone for about 2 months. I was depressed and sad. I am back now and am trying to get my wings)
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To: tazannie

I personally don't think we are going to see an October surprise until after the debate tomorrow.


100 posted on 10/12/2004 10:52:17 PM PDT by dfdemar
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