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October Surprise??? Navy Chief (from SBVT site)
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Posted on 10/12/2004 10:14:15 PM PDT by tazannie

I hope this is good


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: courtmarshal; courtmartial; dishonorabldischarge; kerrydischarge; kerrylies; lessthanhonorable; swiftboat; swiftboatvets; swiftvets
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To: igoramus987

He will NEVER do it...he's just trying to attack Bush and run out the clock on this...only getting your hand on those docs would FORCE the MSM to even air these allegations.


361 posted on 10/13/2004 1:07:56 AM PDT by Keith (JOHN KERRY...IN VIOLATION OF ARTICLE III SECTION 3 OF THE US CONSTITUTION)
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To: wildcatf4f3

Can someone please post the Kerry discharge document.
Since I was discharged in the Navy as an officer about the same time..I can compare it to my documents.


362 posted on 10/13/2004 1:08:27 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Oldexpat

There is a pdf file elsewhere in this thread with it on it.


363 posted on 10/13/2004 1:09:23 AM PDT by Blogger (Pray for President Bush and our nation!!!!! The Lord is our Hope and Strength!!!!!)
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To: MistyCA
Posted

here or see breaking news.

364 posted on 10/13/2004 1:09:41 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: BigKahuna

I don't know. I just took the terminology right from his records. What few there are. :) And the explanation regarding the reserve requirement of 48 drills is on his contract.


365 posted on 10/13/2004 1:09:54 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Keith

Records of the BCNR are not subject to release under the Freedom of Information Act because of the very nature of their purpose, which is the upgrade of a less than Honorable discharge to something higher, though I have seen upgrades from Other than Honorable to a General but not an Honorable.

Again, to get a dishonorable discharge, Kerry would have had to be convicted at a General Court Martial, which carries the weight of a felony conviction.

He may have earned a General or even an Other Than Honorable, though. A general is just that.....General, and no real shame attaches (unless, like Kerry, you claim great war hero status etc.). An Other Than Honorable is not good. You lose certain veteran's benefits and there is a taint to it.


366 posted on 10/13/2004 1:10:04 AM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: Oldexpat


http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/Honorable_Discharge_From_Reserve.pdf


367 posted on 10/13/2004 1:10:34 AM PDT by Blogger (Pray for President Bush and our nation!!!!! The Lord is our Hope and Strength!!!!!)
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To: All
"Reporting For Duty" HAH!! Or as the in the voice of Bart Simpson's alpha male school bully --- "HAA HAA"
368 posted on 10/13/2004 1:10:34 AM PDT by rocknotsand ( "I don't want any messages saying we are holding our position... We're not holding anything!")
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To: DC Bound

Have a little faith. Way back in May nobody thought a little group of men who were calling themselve the SBV for Truth would have any impact on a National election. People are talking and listening to what they have to say.


369 posted on 10/13/2004 1:10:50 AM PDT by boxerblues (www.ohbluestarmothers.org)
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To: igoramus987

bump


370 posted on 10/13/2004 1:10:59 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rather calls Saddam "Mister President" and calls President Bush "bush")
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To: Oldexpat

Kerry is 60+ and any military people on the board that could come forward on this would be at least 83 (or dead from old age).
How can anything like this be confirmed or made tangible news?


371 posted on 10/13/2004 1:14:08 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: wildcatf4f3

I sent it to Bill Bennett. It will be interesting to see what he thinks about it.


372 posted on 10/13/2004 1:15:09 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: capitan_refugio

Like others here, I don't think it's got much legs unless an original DD-214 (certificate of release or discharge from active duty) can be produced, or some record of the proceeding of this "review by a board of officers" turns up.

Any remaining records that the Bureau of Naval Personnel and the National Military Personnel Records Center in St. Louis are holding have to be the ones that are not subject to release under the Freedom of Information Act, and as such cannot be disseminated without permission of the member, through his signature on an SF-180.

Not very likely that Kerry would consent to release of a possibly damaging official military document, I'd say.


373 posted on 10/13/2004 1:15:19 AM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: BigKahuna

Bump!


374 posted on 10/13/2004 1:15:24 AM PDT by Flamenco Lady (4 More Years!)
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To: tazannie

Will ACE reporter, talking head, journlist, expert cookie baker, Dirty Dan R. jump on this like stink on sh-t? Ha ha ha ha haaaa, you innocent child.


375 posted on 10/13/2004 1:15:30 AM PDT by Waco
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To: tallhappy
If Mr. Kerry was the victim of a Nixon "enemies list" hit, one might have expected him to wear it like a badge of honor,

That's an understatement. If Nixon did try to take revenge on him by using the military judicial system, the leadership and direction of the entire antiwar movement would have been Kerry's for the taking.

377 posted on 10/13/2004 1:16:18 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult ("I hate going to places like Austin and Dubuque to raise large sums of money. But I have to," Kerry)
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To: tallhappy

Thanks.


379 posted on 10/13/2004 1:16:48 AM PDT by MistyCA
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To: BigKahuna

Was something like that perhaps leaked somewhere, anyone know?


380 posted on 10/13/2004 1:17:06 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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