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October Surprise??? Navy Chief (from SBVT site)
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Posted on 10/12/2004 10:14:15 PM PDT by tazannie

I hope this is good


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: courtmarshal; courtmartial; dishonorabldischarge; kerrydischarge; kerrylies; lessthanhonorable; swiftboat; swiftboatvets; swiftvets
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To: Blogger

I think it more likely that he had some not-so-aboveboard-dealings on the POW/MIA commission when they were over in Vietnam. It wouldn't be the first time that POW/MIAs have been sold down the river for political expediency.

If an extant papertrail exists, and they can corroborated, he'd take a severe, though not fatal (as most of his far-left base wouldn't care anyway) hit and possible drop a couple points in the polls.


221 posted on 10/12/2004 11:52:07 PM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: bootyist-monk

Well, it is my firm hope that this is truly as explosive as Navy Vet thinks.

If it is, it WILL get play in the mainstream press. There is a lot of negativity here that they will cover up everything, but there comes a point that even the MSM will cover a story.

If it is as big as Navy Vet thinks, it will get covered because some stories are just too good and too huge to ignore no matter what your bias.

Heck, I know I would run with a story about Bush getting dishonorably discharged if that were found to be the case even though I know it would doom his candidacy. The lefty reporters are the same way. They only cover up so much before they have to cover the story.


222 posted on 10/12/2004 11:52:35 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: Shaun_MD

Nothing on this yet. They're going nuts over Sinclair. One DUmmy even made a $1000 bet with a coworker that Kerry would win.


223 posted on 10/12/2004 11:52:39 PM PDT by Nataku X (Live near a liberal college? Want to demoralize Dems? FRmail me to join in Operation Reverse Moby!)
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To: maine-iac7

I just ate some homemade fettucine. My stomach may need some chamomile.


224 posted on 10/12/2004 11:52:56 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray for President Bush and our nation!!!!! The Lord is our Hope and Strength!!!!!)
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To: CurlyDave

I disagree. This would be like the Monica Lewinsky story . No matter how much the MSM love Kerry they could not possibly ignore a discharge that was less than honorable. Enough media would pick it up and it is such a HUGE story they would be forced to look into it. No doubt they would keep insisting that a General Discharge was still honorable, but that wouldn't matter to most voters. All they would know is their potential commander in chief got a less than honorable discharge. I'm still not convinced this story is true anyway. It's an extremely hard thing to cover up.


225 posted on 10/12/2004 11:53:55 PM PDT by Casloy
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To: Blogger

THE SUSPENCE IS KILLING ME!!!!!!!


226 posted on 10/12/2004 11:54:16 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (W is for WOOD)
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To: Viet-Boat-Rider

I hope and prayer you're right. The lefty media has a way of burying things this important. I barely hear anything about the forged memos anymore unless i'm reading here.


227 posted on 10/12/2004 11:56:51 PM PDT by Trillian
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

That fettucine is killing me!!! Whoooo lotsa Gahlic!!!


228 posted on 10/12/2004 11:56:57 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray for President Bush and our nation!!!!! The Lord is our Hope and Strength!!!!!)
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To: rwfromkansas

For a Navy officer, the only way a Bad Conduct or Dishonorable discharge is awarded is for the officer to have been convicted at a General Court Martial (which is convened by a Flag or General Officer, much like you saw in "A Few Good Men").

A conviction at a General Court Martial carries the weight of, and is in fact, a felony conviction. I doubt that Kerry was walking around with that until 1978 or 2001, as he would've been found out long before now.

Like I said, it's not inconceivable that he could've been awarded a General discharge, and that it was mailed to him upon fulfillment of his Individual Ready Reserve commitment, and he never got around to having it upgraded by the Board of Corrections of Naval Records (BCNR) until much later in his budding career.


229 posted on 10/12/2004 11:57:33 PM PDT by BigKahuna
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To: Just mythoughts

Whatever it is, I can see a messed up day for Kerry! LOL!


230 posted on 10/12/2004 11:57:40 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: Blogger

Earle Grey for an upset tummy. (I'm straying off topic...)


231 posted on 10/12/2004 11:58:39 PM PDT by Shaun_MD (Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges - In times of War the Law will Fall Silent - Cicero)
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To: Judith Anne

Hey, watch the tagline.


232 posted on 10/12/2004 11:58:56 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: dead; Publius
It's W. Graham Claytor, and unless I'm having a senior moment, he died some years ago.If Kerry can make the dead walk, he can certainly get them to answer the phone.

We've had dead typing on this forum for years ;)

233 posted on 10/12/2004 11:59:07 PM PDT by jellybean (Psst...John Kerry wears frilly, lace underwear. That's why he walks so stilffly...Pass it on.)
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To: Shaun_MD

Thanks. I'm drinking a Cherry coke right now, but Earl Grey sounds good!


234 posted on 10/12/2004 11:59:11 PM PDT by Blogger (Pray for President Bush and our nation!!!!! The Lord is our Hope and Strength!!!!!)
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To: rwfromkansas
If Kerry has a dishonorable discharge / court martial in his records, then my opinion is that he is truly and fully cooked. His problem will not be receiving it (most of his supporters know that he is an Anti-American Globalist and support him anyway). No, his problem will be that it completely undercuts his "Reporting for Duty... I'll be a better CIC" B.S. In addition to lying by ommission (even the MSM doesn't like that), how does he possibly argue that he can lead us at a time of war when the very military he hopes to command gave him the boot? This will be explosive if true. And from all that I've seen and heard on the issue, the only logical conclusion that can be reached from the timeline is that something went awry for Kerry during his time of service, and that he was able to paste over it later. We shall see...
235 posted on 10/13/2004 12:00:06 AM PDT by bootyist-monk (<--------------------- Republican Attack Machine)
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To: MistyCA
The "timing" is suspicious.... Sinclair airing a documentary...

I want the rot gut, low life commie exposed for all those born after 1970 to learn about, cause they sure have not been educated about the real 60's & 70's from public education.
236 posted on 10/13/2004 12:00:50 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Casloy
This would be like the Monica Lewinsky story . No matter how much the MSM love Kerry they could not possibly ignore a discharge that was less than honorable.

Exactly right--the MSM spiked the Monica Lewinski story.

A disgruntled reported gave it to a struggling Matt Drudge who ran it.

237 posted on 10/13/2004 12:00:50 AM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: BigKahuna

That makes the most sense since that is where Navy Vet has his expertise.


238 posted on 10/13/2004 12:01:10 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: CurlyDave

Why no SIRENS at Drudge? Are they asleep over there?


239 posted on 10/13/2004 12:03:12 AM PDT by boknows
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To: bootyist-monk

more likely it is a general discharge. The challenge will be to explain it. If Kerry follows past actions, he has probably told almost none of his top staff. My guess is possibly even Teresa doesn't know. You can bet Teddy K doesn, and he is going to be the chief strategist on how to deal with this...it would also explain why Clinton, who right after his heart surgery was going to be back on the trail in days, now can't get back on the campaign trail for Kerry before the election. No one wants to help organize deck chairs on the Titanic...


240 posted on 10/13/2004 12:03:29 AM PDT by Keith (JOHN KERRY...IN VIOLATION OF ARTICLE III SECTION 3 OF THE US CONSTITUTION)
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