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How Bush Won Round 2
NY Times ^ | October 11, 2004 | WILLIAM SAFIRE

Posted on 10/10/2004 9:50:09 PM PDT by neverdem

OP-ED COLUMNIST

Washington

When pro-Kerry commentators solemnly pronounce Debate Round 2 to have been "a draw" - you know George Bush won that round.

The president won because he went in with a theme spoken by the heavyweight champion Joe Louis, just before his 1946 rematch victory over the lighter, faster Billy Conn: "He can run, but he can't hide." (The Brown Bomber caught up with Conn in the eighth round of that first TV spectacular.)

Bush's debate plan was to keep boring in on the Kerry record: flip-flopping this year on the war, but all too consistently liberal for 20 years on tax increases.

On the war, Kerry almost eagerly made Bush's point, at first saying, "I do believe Saddam Hussein was a threat," and moments later denouncing Bush for being "preoccupied with Iraq, where there wasn't a threat."

The president exploited the contradiction in Kerry's latest policy, which claims the ability to attract troop support from France, Germany and Russia - while agreeing with them that the war was a diversion. To Kerry's "plan" to hold a summit, Bush asked: "And what is he going to say to those people that show up to the summit? 'Join me in the wrong war at the wrong time at the wrong place'?"

Although Kerry accused the Bush campaign of "mass deception," he let the president focus on that illogical policy. The Democrat weakly cited recent worrying by Republican Senators Richard Lugar and Chuck Hagel, recited a list of retired generals who endorsed him and embraced Ronald Reagan. Such a stretch for conservative company, followed by a plaintive "We will get tough!," hardly shows strength.

When Kerry complained again of "going it alone," Bush was ready with a powerful counterpunch: "Tell Tony Blair we're going alone. Tell Silvio Berlusconi we're going alone. Tell Aleksander Kwasniewski we're going alone."

This not only showed that Bush knew these allies personally, but could also pronounce Kwasniewski's name, which reminded Polish-Americans that Poland's president had responded angrily to Kerry's brushoff of his country's sacrifices in the first debate. (Next day, Australians re-elected John Howard, a staunch coalition member, who trounced a cut-and-run opponent - good news for coalition leaders.)

When the questioning turned to taxes, Kerry pandered with a liberal's absurd promise not to sign legislation raising taxes on anybody making less than $200,000 a year, neglecting only to say,"Read my lips."

Kerry also blundered with a weird attack on an $84 item in the Bushes' federal income tax return, supposedly from a timber business. "I own a timber company? That's news to me," said Bush, adding engagingly in what was the most natural moment in the debate, "Need some wood?" It turns out that Kerry relied on an Annenberg Web site that later admitted it had been confused, which left the Democratic candidate out on a hardwood limb. Bush was too much the gentleman to point out, now that their income taxes were in dispute, that Mrs. Heinz Kerry paid only 11 percent in 2003 on her $5 million income, while the Bushes paid 28 percent.

(Although every Bush slip gets delighted examination - he called Kerry "Kennedy" and he said, "Internets"; can you imagine? - Kerry's minor gaffes attract little notice. When citing his overseas travel in the first debate, Kerry talked of visiting the old K.G.B. headquarters "in Treblinka square." He meant Lubyanka Square; Treblinka was the Nazi death camp. We all make mistakes.)

As Bush picked up steam, Kerry seemed to lose heart, again evoking Lugar and Hagel, skillfully backing away like Billy Conn. Asked about high damage awards gained by trial lawyers that drive up everybody's insurance premiums, he replied that John Edwards and he "support tort reform," even to limitations on punitive awards. Bush delivered a body blow: "You're now for capping punitive damages. That's odd. You should have shown up on the floor in the Senate and voted for it then."

In an anguishing moment, Kerry said he was against partial-birth abortion (as are most voters, including many pro-choice) and then explained why he voted against the ban that is now law. Countered Bush: "He was given a chance to vote and he voted no. . . . It's clear for everybody to see. And as I said, you can run, but you can't hide."

E-mail:safire@nytimes.com


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To: neverdem

Excellent read


61 posted on 10/10/2004 11:05:27 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: King Prout
The "want some wood" line was emblematic of the difference between Bush and Kerry.

Bush makes lemonade out of lemons, Kerry makes sour grapes out of anything.

62 posted on 10/10/2004 11:06:12 PM PDT by Eternagon
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

**John Kerry's Discharge - He won't sign Form 180 - What is he hiding? **

We are hearing an advertisement against Bush that belittles the President for not signing some papers and releasing all his records.

Why isn't there an advertisement against Kerry that basically says what I quoted above? What is Kerry hiding??


63 posted on 10/10/2004 11:07:01 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: neverdem

bttt


64 posted on 10/10/2004 11:56:15 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (Kerry's OGBYN: Ogstetrics and Bynecology!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
For some reason with that weird stance he reminded me of a Cactuar from Final Fantasy video games.


65 posted on 10/11/2004 12:09:34 AM PDT by Watery Tart (Kerry looks like the tree that throws apples in The Wizard of Oz. --Ken Parish Perkins)
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To: neverdem

Thanks, Safire, for reminding me how much I hate Hagel and Lugar.


66 posted on 10/11/2004 12:18:09 AM PDT by Deb (A Democrat Stole My GREEN Sweater!!!)
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To: Deb

I don't know about other Vietnam Vets, but I think Chuck Hagel wore out his welcome. We'll see.


67 posted on 10/11/2004 12:44:28 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: ntnychik; neverdem; Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo
The president exploited the contradiction in Kerry's latest policy, which claims the ability to attract troop support from France, Germany and Russia - while agreeing with them that the war was a diversion. To Kerry's "plan" to hold a summit, Bush asked: "And what is he going to say to those people that show up to the summit? 'Join me in the wrong war at the wrong time at the wrong place'?"

Z - I - N - G ! ! !


68 posted on 10/11/2004 2:58:42 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Republican Wildcat
(Although every Bush slip gets delighted examination - he called Kerry "Kennedy" and he said, "Internets"; can you imagine? - Kerry's minor gaffes attract little notice. When citing his overseas travel in the first debate, Kerry talked of visiting the old K.G.B. headquarters "in Treblinka square." He meant Lubyanka Square; Treblinka was the Nazi death camp. We all make mistakes.)

Again .....

Z - I - N - G ! ! !


69 posted on 10/11/2004 3:05:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: blogblogginaway
"Kerry also blundered with a weird attack on an $84 item in the Bushes' federal income tax return, supposedly from a timber business. "I own a timber company? That's news to me," said Bush, adding engagingly in what was the most natural moment in the debate, "Need some wood?" It turns out that Kerry relied on an Annenberg Web site that later admitted it had been confused, which left the Democratic candidate out on a hardwood limb."

Dick Cheney loaned him HIS lumber company:

Here is the FULL version of that.


70 posted on 10/11/2004 3:07:35 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: King Prout
NYSlimes admits in print that

Never. It wasn't the Slimes, it was the Slimes' token conservative columnist.

71 posted on 10/11/2004 5:41:24 AM PDT by jammer
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To: GoLightly

Re-post that with a pic of Clinton...

...takes on a different meaning.

"Want Some Wood?" - excellent bumper-sticker material, if not too late.


72 posted on 10/11/2004 5:48:57 AM PDT by sayfer bullets (Proverbs 6: 16-18 " ...hands that shed innocent blood,...")
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To: neverdem; JohnHuang2

True.

But if a debate is won in the forest, and Kerry reveals himself to be a dangerous fool, but the media won't report those facts -- does it matter?

Dan


73 posted on 10/11/2004 6:00:00 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: SuziQ
It seemed to me that Kerry mispronounced the names of both former Army Generals, Shineski and Shalikashvili.

That would be a great line for debate three. "My opponent likes to talk about his hawkish plan, but he doesn't even know how to pronounce the generals names correctly. Which leads me to think he doesn't have a lot of thought invested in it"
74 posted on 10/11/2004 7:12:22 AM PDT by Vision ("When you trust in yourself, you're trusting in the same wisdom that created you")
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To: neverdem
I would give my eye teeth to hear Bush drop the old Loyd Benson bomb on Kerry the next time the senator drops Ronaldus Magnus's name.

"I knew RR, RR was a friend of mine..."

75 posted on 10/11/2004 7:28:02 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: neverdem

"Need some wood?" ......... "Maybe, Teresa tells me the only wood I've got sits on my shoulders."

76 posted on 10/11/2004 7:41:11 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (KEdwards vowed to hunt down al Qaeda wherever it is, unless wherever's in Iraq.)
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To: neverdem

This is good news.


77 posted on 10/11/2004 7:46:37 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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bump


78 posted on 10/11/2004 8:06:34 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko (Mosquitos are a nuisance. Shooting up schoolkids for the martyrs of Fallujah is NOT a nuisance.)
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To: King Prout
Safire musta found some WOOD
79 posted on 10/11/2004 8:11:55 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: BigWaveBetty

ROTFL! Girl, you are SO bad!! But I love it!


80 posted on 10/11/2004 9:03:42 AM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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