John Kerry's Discharge

American Conservative Union Foundation ^ | October 2004 | Michael Ashbury

[freespirited]

What a young man did more than 30 years ago should not be a primary criteria in determining his qualifications to be President of the United States. George Bush has had almost 4 years now as Commander and Chief of the World"s largest military force and he should be judged on how well he has done. Yet John Kerry and the Democratic left won"t give it up. On almost a daily basis he says I served this country honorably as a young man in Vietnam (4 months/12 days) and I will serve this country honorably as Commander and Chief. Then the Left yells that George Bush got preferential treatment in getting into the National Guard and even failed to complete his guard obligations; even forging documents to prove their point.

The facts are that George Bush served honorably in the National Guard obtaining service points far in excess of the 50 annual service points required to meet his obligation. Records show that in 1968/69 he accumulated 253 points, 340 in 1969/70, 137 in 1970/71, 112 in 1971/72, 56 in 1972/73 and 56 in 1973/74. Points far in excess of the service agreed to and that required to meets his obligation and be Honorably Discharged. George Bush has never made his National Guard service a qualification to lead this country, nor has he ever questioned the service of John Kerry.

While the Left and the mainstream media have never questioned the Vietnam era service of John Kerry, they seem to feel that the record of George Bush 30 years ago should be of concern to voters in November. But what about John Kerry's record? We are told that he was a decorated veteran. We are also told that he was deeply involved in anti-war activities on his return from Vietnam in violation of his oath as an officer in the US Navy. By his own account of his actions and protests, he violated the UCMJ, the Geneva Conventions and the U.S. Code while serving as a Navy officer. Further he met, on two occasions, with North Vietnamese negotiators in 1970 and 1971, while a Reserve Officer, willingly placing himself in violation of Article three, Section three of the U.S. Constitution, which defines treason as "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

From here the record of John Kerry becomes unclear and the mainstream press won't demand that John Kerry sign a Department of Defense (DOD) form 180 that would release all of his military records. Records released by his campaign are confusing. There are indications that he was Honorably Discharged on Jan. 3, 1970, Feb 16, 1978, July 13, 1978 and even lately Mar. 12, 2001. Why the confusion on a relatively simple service event. Could it be that John Kerry received a less than honorable discharge in the early 70"s because of his anti-war activities? And then was pardoned for those activities when then President Jimmy Carter on January 21, 1978 ( Proclamation 4483) granted a full, complete and unconditional pardon to all persons who may have committed any offense between August 4, 1964 and March 28, 1973 in violation of the Military Selective Service Act or any rule or regulation promulgated there under.

Did John Kerry request that his service be granted an Honorable Discharge and it was finally granted in 1978? Only a complete release of his military records will show what actually happened during this period. And, to date John Kerry has refused to sign the necessary DOD form 180 which would allow for this release. If the Democratic Party, the media, and the Bush critics are going to demand, as they do on almost a daily basis, that George Bush release all of his records, should they not do the same for John Kerry?

[blanknoone]

I hate it when our side gets simple facts wrong.

Commander and Chief of the World"s largest military force

Ours is not the world's largest military force. Not by a long shot. Most powerful, yes. Largest, not even close.

[Fast1]

This needs answered as it is they Liberals who keep badgering Bush over his records

[freespirited]

Oops. Left off author bio. He has a website where you can learn more about his research.

Michael Ashbury is a noted researcher and author, and the author of ''Who is the REAL John Kerry?'' (Booksurge.com 2004). His website is at www.whoistherealjohnkerry.com

[Hank Rearden]

Oh, thank God. It's a military reference.

I was thinking medical. Ick.

[tomnbeverly]

Only a complete release of his military records will show what actually happened during this period.

I really think there is a problem with his discharge and with the FBI investigation and there porbably is some damning evidence against him that the government cannot make public without his consent...

[IllumiNaughtyByNature]

BINGO!

[SkyPilot]

Let me say out loud what everybody suspects and everyone is thinking.

I'll bet you all a Diet Coke that Kerry was given a dishonorable discharge. The reasons were twofold. His perjury-filled testimony before Congress, his contempt for the uniform and for wearing it to political events (unauthorized and punishable under the Uniform Code of Military Justice), and his failure to live up to his Ready Reserve obligations.

He then got the discharge changed to an "Honorable" by a friendly President several years later and had is aides purge the paper trail to cover up his dishonor.

If I am wrong, I'll eat my hat.

[SkyPilot]

Make that read "threefold."

[tinamina]

How about we all write Mark Halperin at ABC News and ask him to investigate?

[Publius]

There is much more here than meets the eye.

Thanks to his Skull and Bones connection, John Kerry continued in the Navy even after he left uniform. He was seconded to the Central Intelligence Agency with orders to infiltrate the anti-war movement, report on Soviet/Chinese money and influence, and report on the activities of enemy agents such as Jane Fonda. He continued serving his country by entering politics via another organization that is the sworn enemy of America -- the Democratic Party -- wherein he reported on the activities of other foreign influences.

Kerry's cover was so good that he was elected lieutenant governor of Massachusetts and then US senator. John Lehman's signature on those citations is genuine and represents true awards for heroism.

In 2001 Kerry told his control officer that he intended to run for president, so he was discharged from the Navy to give him deniability. Once elected, Kerry's role will be to function as America's Gorbachev, taking the Democratic Party down with him as the world financial system crumbles.

Hey, you don't think I'm making all this up, do you?

[counterpunch]

The answer here is not to ask the question, but to definitively make the charge. It needs to be stated as a matter of fact that Kerry was less than honorably discharge. Dishonorably discharged even. It should come from friendlies in the media and the GOP.

This would put Kerry on the defensive, and force him to disprove it by releasing his records fully. So long as there is one document in his record not released, the charge will not be disproved.
I highly suspect that Kerry would be unable to disprove the charge, since you cannot disprove that which is true.

[Bahbah]

My sense is that you are absolutely right.

[dr_who_2]

Consider this. If Kerry was in fact dishonorably discharged because activities that he engaged in that were televised, are (by now at least) widely known about, and Kerry supposedly feels no remorse about (depending on what day it is), what difference does it make to the voters at this point? I'm not suggesting that Kerry isn't hiding something. I suppose there is something more serious (other than a member of the armed forces holding his own "peace talks" with the enemy of course) that Kerry is keeping under wraps.

[HawaiianGecko]

Anyone see Kerry yesterday telling the crowd that he was now 2 & 0 in the debates.  What arrogance!  This man is a narcissist, and should never be allowed to run this country.

[blackdog]

The size of a military has become an interesting modern phenomenon which is a real nation killer if power and effectiveness is wrongly measured by merely numbers of troops. North Korea and China will not be able to move forward without bringing their military into the technical future.

[alloysteel]

John Kerry does not want to open that can of worms by releasing his full military records. The forged and reformulated versions produced so far is all the world shall ever see.

But GOOD forgeries would have been absolutely seamless.

[HomeFree]

Probably not a full "Dishonorable" discharge, but a "General" discharge....which can be just a damning to one with political ambitions such as him. I'm absolutely amazed that more hasn't been leaked about his records.

[real saxophonist]

I'm just curious. I was never an officer, so I don't know. Do officers get an 'Honorable Discharge'? I thought they 'Resign their Commission'.

[Melinda]

Hmmm. Another thought as to what Sandy Burger had in those pants! :)