Posted on 10/07/2004 5:55:45 PM PDT by Warden
Stage Setting For The Mark Of The Beast Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Beware of the New World Order of which you are in the midst!
Posted: September 28, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern
WASHINGTON – The House Republican leadership's new bill to restructure the nation's intelligence bureaucracy would turn driver's licenses issued by the 50 states into a de facto national ID card, say privacy activists. The House bill, set for committee markups this week, is expected to be merged with a Senate version and voted on before the Nov. 2 election. But among the little-known provisions of the "9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act" are new requirements for state driver's licenses that have very little to do with driving, say critics. According to the legislation, within three years of its enactment, no federal agency may accept for any official purpose a driver's license or identification card issued by a state that does not require applicants to provide Social Security number and "facial imaging capture." Washington would also require all states to share digital data acquired in the process of licensing to other states. A blogger site committed to fighting a national ID calls the plan a "backdoor creation of a National ID" that "has been the in the works for a few years now, even prior to events of September 11." "This seems marginally better than the ID provisions McCain-Lieberman bill in the Senate, in that it is not explicitly part of a biometric checkpoint system," wrote the privacy activists of Libertythink.com. "But the highlighted text suggests facial biometrics nonetheless. And the linking of all the databases is troublesome." The issue of national standards for driver's licenses and other documents was taken up by the 9/11 Commission and by the McCain-Lieberman bill introduced earlier this month in the Senate. Both urge sweeping reforms, such as mandated federal standards for license formats. Privacy experts say that national standards that require states to add a fingerprint or other biometric data to driver's licenses might effectively create a national ID card. The House bill also immediately ran into partisan opposition last Friday when it was introduced. "Instead of acting in a bipartisan manner, the Republican leadership is introducing a bill, written behind closed doors, that attempts to score partisan points and goes far outside the recommendations of the 9/11 commission," said House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat. "Unbelievably, the Republicans claim to have introduced a bipartisan bill, as Senate leaders have done. It is simply not true." No bill number was available and even the full text was not released until yesterday. Driver's licenses are not the only form of identification changing. Next year, both U.S. passports and foreign visitor passports will be issued with a special computer chip woven into the cover. The chip will include a photograph of the traveler, and face-recognition technology will be used to make sure the passport presenter is the same as the person who applied for the document. That seems to be what the House bill is requiring for driver's licenses of the future, too. This change will be gradual in the United States. All new passports will include the chip by next year, but those holding valid passports won't be required to upgrade until their current ones expire. On the other hand, citizens of countries in the U.S. visa waiver program, such as Britain and Spain, will have to arrive on U.S. shores with a biometric chip in their passport beginning in October of next year. Congress has already extended that deadline from the initial October 2004 date mandated in a 2002 law. Facial-recognition programs, however, are notoriously inaccurate, with some studies suggesting error rates as high as 50 percent. Simple changes in lighting, or beard growth, can foil it. Similar legislation was pushed during the Clinton administration but was rebuffed by privacy activists.
Pre 9/11 I was almost paranoid in my defense of privacy and fear of Big Brother. But as our President said, "9/11 changed everything." No, I don't like a National ID system- but I can live with it.
In the Internet age, anybody with a computer can track you more invasively than the Government ever dreamed of back in the 1960s. Credit, driver's licenses, medical info- all are linked to your Social Security number. What privacy is there left to lose?
Is it too much to ask that all residents of the US pay taxes, and that only citizens are eligible to vote or receive government benefits?
Anything, But Christianity… The New World Order
You have to understand what a one world religious system would be. There are many main stream religions that all have one thing in common. There is only one religion that differs from all the others. It is a difference of salvation in eternity. All religions, but one, teach that salvation can be obtained in part by keeping the standards, of what that particular religion claims to be, from their God. Christianity (Acts 26:28) of the Holy Bible teaches that Salvation is through the finished works of Christ alone. Good works do not affect salvation in eternity in any form.
Eph 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ro 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
2Ti 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
Ro 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
When the religious leader of the largest system in the world performs great miracles, he will say they are signs and miracles from God. People of all works based faiths will unite under him for the common good of mankind. He will teach that all religions are from the same God and valid as such. This spirit is already in the world. It is kind of like the “Anything, but Bush” spirit that we see prevalent during the elections this year. The Moslems will embrace the Religious system that says they do not have to change in a united effort to get rid of true Christianity. The world and especially Muslims are conditioned to accept these types of deceptive miracles as being from God.
***What privacy is there left to lose?***
I think there is a big diffenence in terms of what the Government is authorized on a all-pervasive scale to as opposed to what is feasible for a hacker or PI to do.
Big difference in terms of control of a society.
***What privacy is there left to lose?***
I think there is a big diffenence in terms of what the Government is authorized on a all-pervasive scale to as opposed to what is feasible for a hacker or PI to do.
Big difference in terms of control of a society.
Sorry for the double post!
The Holy Bible tells us that there will be a one world government along with a one world religious system. If you look at this from a biblical perspective instead of a “protect us from the terrorist” perspective you will be seeing the bigger picture. Ultimately God is our protector. Which is great because God is also the one who grants us liberty. The government has convinced the American people by and large that they are the grantors of liberty. Now they are becoming our protectors in a very convincing manner. The protection of the government is the bondage of liberty.
We have all have been conditioned and will continue to be condition in a greater manner to receive the mark of the beast. When the actual mark of the beast rolls out onto the world stage people will be so conditioned they will line up to receive it. People will not be able to get the mark of the beast fast enough. The one world religious government system will have had convinced most everyone that the mark of the beast is good for them. Especially if they want to buy food.
***If you look at this from a biblical perspective instead of a “protect us from the terrorist” perspective you will be seeing the bigger picture. ***
Brother, that's how I look at it too!
***Ultimately God is our protector.***
1 Kings 17: 2-6
"No, I don't like a National ID system- but I can live with it."
Can you live with it for sake of allowing illegals to cross the wide open boarders?
"No, I don't like a National ID system- but I can live with it."
Can you live with it for sake of allowing illegals to cross the wide open boarders?
Sorry about the double post. Strange things are happening at FR. My first reply did not show up for about a minute after I posted it.
" Why showing your citizenship papers or your birth certificat is "the mark of the beast"?"
You are right Miss Frannie, it isn't.
One the other hand, I wonder why people get so bent out of shape over a national ID when there already is a national ID. It's called your Social Security Number.
We wouldnt need a federal ID if they would simply close the borders round up all illegals and terrorist enablers and deport them and never let them back in...
They cry for a federal ID in order to stop terrorism when they refuse to adequately protect our borders...?
Biometrics...RFID....Chips....National ID...
First you need the reason to pass such laws....illegal aliens narco terrorists cuban terrorists red chinese and al qaida provide the reason...
Leaving your back door open while you cry about the need for more security laws to protect the front door of the house is just plain stupid.....
or is it?...dumb like a fox maybe
Just heard on WGN news..."Operation Predator" sting op to take out child sex predators has so far netted 1800 foreign nationals who are pedophile predators operating inside CONUS...they have been arrested...and deported...
Thats a fine example of the kind of scum coming over our unprotected borders....
imo
If done right, it could be our only defense against illegals, and voter fraud as well. A national database would work wonders.
You are exactly right. The USA should have sealed up the borders long ago. We should take all the money we put into our foreign investments and seal the borders. That can be done. I'm 100 percent for searching and scrutinizing every person coming into this country, even if returning as a USA citizen. Seal and protect our borders. The solution is that easy. All the identification needed to do that is in place already. Our government chooses not to seal the borders. Our government controls by fear and intimidation. Just like a racketeer. They are the bad guys and then they coheres us to pay with our liberty for their protection. Many shortsighted people though will appreciate the nice government protection.
Bingo.
The Government making all of us carry ID cards because the Government is too spineless to close the borders is hypocrisy of the first order.
Why should I be inconvenienced because of what some slimy Mexican trash did when they got here?
This is just more socialism - one group of people screws up, so instead of hammering them out of existence, we just penalize and oppress everybody, thereby reducing everyone to the lowest common denominator.
How about a poll test? As I recall, there is/was a written test to become a citizen of the USA. You have to demonstrate basic proficency in standard American english (this may have changed) and an understanding of American history and how our form of government works.
Right now, our schools are turning out graduates who couldn't pass this test. I'd like to see it as a requirement for voting rights.
Biometrics is "the number of a man" (as opposed to the social security number systematically assigned to represent a person). If a form of ID is required to make a purchase (buy) or have a job ("sell" your services); this is directly in line with the "mark of the beast", if not it. After these IDs start to get stolen, creating a major identity theft problem; then, the "verichip" implant solution, most likely, would be offered next.
According to Rev. 13 KJV; a Christian could not take such a "mark" or form of identity. This would leave Christians as "non-citizens" or being viewed as terrorist.
"Those who give up liberty for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security." -- Ben Franklin
(Sorry for this double post, accidentally sent to wrong person as reply.)
Biometrics is "the number of a man" (as opposed to the social security number systematically assigned to represent a person). If a form of ID is required to make a purchase (buy) or have a job ("sell" your services); this is directly in line with the "mark of the beast", if not it. After these IDs start to get stolen, creating a major identity theft problem; then, the "verichip" implant solution, most likely, would be offered next.
According to Rev. 13 KJV; a Christian could not take such a "mark" or form of identity. This would leave Christians as "non-citizens" or being viewed as terrorist.
"Those who give up liberty for the sake of security deserve neither liberty nor security." -- Ben Franklin
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