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'Fahrenhype 9/11' -- reviewed.

Posted on 10/06/2004 12:37:04 PM PDT by mehster

alright, here i go...

ironically, fahrenhype 9/11 presents a more devastating case a for michael moore's alleged, yet sometimes obvious, hatred of america. the movie focuses solely on F9/11, as should be expected from the title. it's never slanderous, although certain people interviewed have some choice words for mikey, heh.

the movie starts off in the florida classroon, interviewing the black woman who sat next to him in the photo-op (i believe she was the principal). she disposes a few myths (the children were reading to him, the book was never upside-down, etc), and then proceeds to splice in commentary from various other people. one man, presents the fact that bush stayed in the classroom, for 5 minutes (not 7 as moore claims), and the proceeds to say something along the lines of, "if someone cant get the little details right, i would certainly question his ability to grasp the 'whole picture'."

more than fair, imo.

the movie then has a little segment on the pantagraph article, and how moore has never apologized for the blatantly dishonest editing used on, rather dismissed it as a 'typo' and claiming he has done nothing wrong. :roll: the movie thne jumps from iraq, to the saudis, osama, the connection with bush and the carlyle group, and various conspiracy theories moore has conjured out of... well... somewhere.

the film is written and directed by alan peterson, with some contribution from dick morris and a few others. there is a wide variety of people interviewed, from the common man on the street, to the actor ron silver, to liberal-eating ann coulter (who, suprisingly, received very little air time).

the movie had more than a few facts that i was not aware of. for instance, it shows that clinton's former chief of staff is an advisor (if i remember correctly) to the carlyle group, and has an invested financial interest of his own. it also shows footage of every president of the last 45 years, or so, having special meetings with the saudis (just as moore shows pics of the bush's and the saudis, in an attempt to connect some sort of invented dots)... including JFK, carter, ford, reagan, etc.

the film, mostly through dick morris and frank gaffney, also spends some time (20 minutes is my guesstimation) on clinton and his failures in the now-war on terror. it tells of how when they had solid intel in 1999 that OBL was going to be in quandor for five days, clinton called off the air strike. dick morris summed it up pretty well, referring to bush and 9/11, 'it happened under his watch, and he deserves 8 months of blame, but clinton deserves 8 years of blame.'

overall i felt the movie was fairly well done, a little slow for me, but its not enough to detract from the overall message. it ended on a patriotic, 'america, land that i love', type fadeout... a little too cheesy for me, but luckily that was really the only time. one funny scene replays ashcroft singing that 'soaring eagle' song and ron silver commenting, 'give me enough footage of moore in various situations and i can make him look like an anorexic right-wing nut.'

lol...

i recommend this movie to all moore-lovers and bush-haters, and certainly to those who have seen moore's work of deceit, farfromright 9/11. it is not as extensive as i would've liked it to be, but in the parts it does touch on, it is fairly thorough and uses commentary from various individuals. i don't think i gave too much of the content away, as there are many scenes i didn't even talk about (interviews with various soldiers, facts about bush's "vacation" time, etc). take 80 minutes out of your life to watch this flick. 8)


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To: AxelPaulsenJr
mmmk... thanks for the comments on the actual review, btw... or for even pointing out my woefully atrocious errors throughout. perhaps your apology should be for doing neither of these. i havent been a member all that long (assuming that wasn't sarcasm), i only joined to post a review of 'MMHA' so that others who hadn't seen the movie, would have some sort of idea of its content. and in that same spirit of sharing information, i have now posted this review. if you dont have a comment about my actual review, then please dont bother. if you are going to act so indignant towards a few errors, at least have the courtesy to cite at least one example. if not, why do you comment? again, as one of my earlier comments says, i really couldn't care less about punctuation and/or capitilization. if it isn't A+ material, so what? am i being graded? this is some random online message board...
21 posted on 10/06/2004 1:50:32 PM PDT by mehster
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To: mehster
this is some random online message board...

I think the point you are missing is that most on Freerepublic look at this as a home not some random msg board that they found and like for it to be respected and not have someone come on and treat it like their personal blog spot. Punctuation and spelling goes along ways on this board. Arguing with other members does not. It's just a little razzing and constructive criticism, try not to take it to heart.

22 posted on 10/06/2004 2:39:06 PM PDT by scab4faa (There are 3 types of people in this world, those that can count and those that can't...)
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To: scab4faa

I stopped at Best Buy on the way home from work. Couldn't find Farenhype 911...an employee asked if i needed help - i said yes, farenhype 911...he took me right too it. when i went to pay, the little girl on the register said, "oh farenheit 911, have you seen it?" I said, "no this is farenhype 911 (emphasizing the hype) and I WILL NEVER WATCH FARENHEIT 911"...she sort of chuckled nervously and said "ok"....i paid and left!


23 posted on 10/06/2004 7:05:45 PM PDT by BamaDi
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To: mehster

I would suggest that every Freeper go to Borders and Barnes and Noble and ask for it by name, then watch as the book libs stutter in disbelief.


24 posted on 10/07/2004 5:15:31 AM PDT by usmcobra
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To: mehster; scab4faa
mmmk... thanks for the comments on the actual review, btw... or for even pointing out my woefully atrocious errors throughout. perhaps your apology should be for doing neither of these.

See the previous paragraph, for an example of poor presentation.

i havent been a member all that long (assuming that wasn't sarcasm), i only joined to post a review of 'MMHA'

And this is the primary reason, along with your recent birthdate, that I suspected that you are a du troll.

so that others who hadn't seen the movie, would have some sort of idea of its content. and in that same spirit of sharing information, i have now posted this review.

I don't believe you. For in fact I think that most people for a long time now have been aware of just what a pack of lies is Moore's so-called "documentary". In fact a liberal Democrat friend of mine who saw the movie said that it was so unfair and unbalanced an attack on President Bush that he has decided to vote for The President.

if you dont have a comment about my actual review, then please dont bother. if you are going to act so indignant towards a few errors, at least have the courtesy to cite at least one example.

Your whole post is an example of the most pitiful of typing, grammer, content, etc. that I have even seen.

if not, why do you comment? again, as one of my earlier comments says, i really couldn't care less about punctuation and/or capitilization. if it isn't A+ material, so what?

am i being graded?

Yes and you have failed.

this is some random online message board...

Everything about this post suggests the work of a du troll, who knows nothing of The Free Republic or of it's members. The overall content and body of your posts just go further to confirm my opinion of what I think was your original purpose in posting.

You thought you had found a clever way of posting a story damaging to the President by posting a "review" of that sorry piece of shiite movie. A movie that everyone in the entire world has known about for many months.

It didn't work!

25 posted on 10/07/2004 7:23:33 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: mehster
Q? Do you think that it's necessary for one to see Moore's video too? I would feel kinda....dirty.

I'm waiting for my copy of "hype" to get here. I should get it on Monday.

26 posted on 10/07/2004 6:07:22 PM PDT by IamHD
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To: mehster
the connection with bush and the carlyle group,

Just saw the movie at a neighbor's house. While watching it, I was shaking my head thinking how gullible people were who got sucked in by Michael Moore.

Anyway, one of the particularly intriguing items that the movie featured was the name of the Carlyle Group's major investor -- George Soros.

27 posted on 10/16/2004 11:18:34 PM PDT by Dave Olson
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To: mehster

I mentioned this on another post I think, but I got a chance to rent this movie myself the first day Fahrenheit 911 came out at Hollywood Video here in Houston. There were only two copies at the video store. The clerk told me I was the only one she knew of that knew about this movie. I just smiled.

It is a powerful dvd documentary. The part of the documentary with the military soldiers and what they had to say about Michael Moore is worth seeing if nothing else. That truth should be told. I want say much about the dvd becaue I want people to buy it for themselves and make judgment, but it definitely has a strong anti-Moore message or messages in it .

Brad in Houston


28 posted on 10/16/2004 11:24:17 PM PDT by bradactor
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I saw it too. We have a Blockbuster in our neighborhood, and they have a WALL of MM's trash, and 3 lousy copies of Fahrenhype. I kept going in daily until I got one.

It is definitely worth seeing. The movie completely shows Moore to be a devious liar. I don't think anyone, even a liberal, could suck up Moore's "documentary" unquestioningly after seeing this. Love Ron Silver.

29 posted on 10/16/2004 11:29:12 PM PDT by Yaelle
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