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Demographic Obstacle for GOP
Rush Limbaugh ^ | 10/4/04 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 10/06/2004 11:59:50 AM PDT by MarlboroRed

But the thing to me, folks, is this election shouldn't even be close right now. The reason that it is close, they're reasons that have to do with things that, you know, Karl Rove and George W. Bush really don't have all that much to say about or control over. I mean demographics -- if we can be honest here for a second -- demographics are going to make it increasingly more difficult for Republicans to win in the future if things don't change as they are now. Many people who are voting have no context. I've got story after story today of voter fraud, registration fraud in Franklin County, Ohio. There are more registered voters than the Census Bureau says are eligible. We got a story out of Tampa today in the St. Petersburg Times about how a group that was formed in the 1970s, you may have heard of them, ACORN, is out trying to register voters two and three times and they've been caught in the act. You've got the Kerry campaign demanding 6,000 lawyers at these polling places but they will not allow Republican lawyers to be sitting side by side. But one of our problems here is that some of the people voting have no context today. They're just being registered and sent out there with marching orders essentially; World War II generation is dying off. We have people here because of the open border policy. We have people who have not assimilated into our culture. The liberal propaganda resonates with many of them, at least, a large number of them, maybe a growing number of them, because of the "we'll do everything for you" propaganda that liberals are known for.

I'm not trying to be defeatist. I don't want anybody to misunderstand. I just want you to know what the obstacles are here. Before everybody starts dumping on Bush and Rove and everybody else totally, there are some things that you have to understand. We still have history taught by the left in academia. The media has been teaching history for a long time and, you know, some inroads are being made there, tremendous inroads are being made. Progress is taking place but I want to be realistic about some of the obstacles that we still face. You can't have all this history taught by the left, including the media and expect to make huge, huge inroads. This is an election, maybe the first of its kind, with such dramatic demographic changes. And these demographic changes, as long as we don't do something about immigration, are going to continue.

Bush, I hate to say this -- but I mean you know this has been one of my bugaboos since 2000 -- on the domestic side Bush has spent like a liberal. He has spent and spent and spent and spent and spent. But, his problem is he dares to defend his country. So the fact that he dares to defend his country cancels out all the so-called "good," he's doing by spending like a liberal. And I think as I look back at the debate, one little comment about it, as you look back at Bush in that first debate, the last half of that debate, first half I'm telling you was a different story than the last half. There was a big momentum shift, but you look back at the second half of that debate, I think what you saw is the new tone. Maybe even a little bit prevent defense. Don't be mean. Let's not attack, let's not make people dislike us. Let's not get people angry at us and so forth. Of course just the opposite was called for, and just the opposite was what was necessary.

So, you know, I mean one of the examples of this demographic shift I can give you, just so you'll know, I'll give you an illustration. Orange County, California. Orange County always was relied on to offset the Democrat liberal dominance of Los Angeles. But now over 50% of Orange County is minority and immigrant and most of them vote Democrat, most of the new arrivals. The point is that the Republicans, I'm looking long-term here just to give you something to think about, not just this election and not primarily this election, but long-term. The Republicans just cannot expect to keep winning if every election we have to write off California. If every election we have to write off New York, Illinois, and maybe soon Florida, if those states become states that we have to write off simply because of demographic shifts, then you can't expect to win. One of those states, some of those states, are eventually going to have to be mined and cultivated if consistent national victories are to take place.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; election; immigration; rush; votefraud
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To: monday

"lol...you forgot the /<sarcasm tag."

So are you saying Arnie is voting for Kerry?

Pay attention!


41 posted on 10/06/2004 12:22:23 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: MarlboroRed
Actually I have just grown more optimistic. I just read a couple of days ago that the only age group that was at that time voting for Kerry was the over 65 ers. Also We republicans also have a higher fertility rate. I think for blue states it is 1.7 kids per couple and in red states it is 2.3. Also while so many of the Foreign born are Latino many are not, the Asians are just as likely to vote for us. When you really look at things the Latinos are about the only demographic improving for the 'rats. And while we can expect to get a higher percentage of their votes in the future we should do something about illegal and legal immigration. Don't for get the overwhelming majority of Americans do not like immigration policy and I think the rewards in changing it out weight the liabilities.
42 posted on 10/06/2004 12:22:59 PM PDT by bilhosty
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To: MarlboroRed

I'd say that this is about 4 years late.

I would like to see the hispanic vote broken down to who the Cubans voted for, the Mexicans voted for , the Porto Ricans, the Phillipinos voted for and ect. voted for. They should not lump all hispanics together.

So Rush is finally getting it? Is Rush actually letting people talk about this?


43 posted on 10/06/2004 12:23:34 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: riri
Well, after a couple more lection cycles it won't make much diffrence. The country, as we know it, will cease to exist.

The country as I knew it has already ceased to exist. But you're right -- demographics is destiny and, thanks to immigration both legal and illegal, the original United States of America is virtually a thing of the past. Just as Europe will soon be muslim, the USA will soon be an hispanic-dominant country.

44 posted on 10/06/2004 12:24:23 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once.)
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To: texastoo
So Rush is finally getting it? Is Rush actually letting people talk about this?

Will Michael Medved be next?

45 posted on 10/06/2004 12:24:50 PM PDT by skip_intro (I'm a man...I can change...If I have to...I guess)
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To: MarlboroRed

So Rush is making this point, less than one month BEFORE the election, because!

Another so called "conservative" just like O'Reilly.


46 posted on 10/06/2004 12:25:28 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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To: MarlboroRed

My opinion is that the removal of the immigration issues is driven by business intrests, both big and small business intrests and many neo-con pundits, such as the ones who write for the WSJ, are just useful idiots.

Again, the business owners, managers and those of the investor class much think themselves brilliant for getting such a large cheap labor supply with the windfall of profits they have had, but they will not think themselves to be all that bright when their taxes go back to those of the Carter era in a few years when more of their imported cheap labor + displaced American born workers vote.


47 posted on 10/06/2004 12:25:47 PM PDT by RFT1
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To: MarlboroRed

I agree with Rush that tremendous numbers of Americans are socialists at heart. In fact it is probably a majority of Americans who have this mindset.

It could very well be that Bush is doing as well as he is because most Americans consider him more likely to deal effectively with Islamic terror.


48 posted on 10/06/2004 12:26:28 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: LisaFab
This is the distinction that Sam Huntington draws between the illegal flood of people from Mexico and immigrants from earlier generations: There is no reason for illegals from Mexico to assimilate (and eventually vote Republican, for our purposes) because (i) we share a huge border with their home country to which they can come and go from whenever they like, (ii) the elites insist that multi-culturalism trumps any sort of American creed or identity, (iii) many simply come here to exploit the resources of the US without concern for the country itself, and (iv) the elites of the Mexican community see a future in which American becomes heavily latinized and want nothing to stand in the way.

Your Italian grandparents and family had no option, if they wanted to stay here and prosper, but to assimilate. That's no longer true.

49 posted on 10/06/2004 12:26:33 PM PDT by MarlboroRed
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To: monday
As long as the ACLU keeps interfering on behalf of illegals and they keep getting minority status, preferential treatment, all that to this "civil rights" BS, we can't secure our borders, they won't allow us to even send them back where they came from! Look at the DUI road checks in CA, they wanted them to stop because they were inadvertently catching too many illegals, who were not only here illegally but driving illegally, with no insurance, also illegal!

How does the conservative majority fight the ACLU??? They are the biggest threat to this country, because even if we try to pass laws for securing our borders, they roadblock them.
50 posted on 10/06/2004 12:27:44 PM PDT by gidget7
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To: Bernard Marx
Just as Europe will soon be muslim, the USA will soon be an hispanic-dominant country

And to imply that this is a bad thing immediately gets you labeled a hate mongerer by the idiots on the left that are responsible for the destruction of our country.

They just better hope the new majority is as tolerant as they claim to be.

51 posted on 10/06/2004 12:27:56 PM PDT by riri
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To: Soul Seeker

Boy, you've been listening to a different program than I have. I can't remember him ever speaking to STARKLY about the demographic changes that will doom Republican aspirations for the Presidency. Never.


52 posted on 10/06/2004 12:28:09 PM PDT by MarlboroRed
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To: MarlboroRed
"People are begging for someone who treats them like adults, begging a return to the sort of America they grew up in, something they can recognize. "

Do you feel like no one treats you as an adult?
Are you unable to recognize America?
Are you begging someone to return you to the America you grew up in?

I grew up in a segregated America where colored people were not allowed to attend the same schools as whites, couldn't eat in white restaurants, attend white schools, stay at white hotels or work for many companies.

I see the same arguments being used today that were used by the people who resisted integration back in the 50s and 60s. Same song second verse.

53 posted on 10/06/2004 12:28:49 PM PDT by bayourod (Even security moms should now know that you can't lead while waffling and calling Iraq the wrong war)
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To: MarlboroRed; All

I am terribly concerned about immigration, but it seems that no one thinks anything will ever get done about it. We should take the best and the brightest from wherever we can, if we're going to take anyone at all. Not people who will be a drain on the system, or people not interested in assimilating.

If anyone has some good news on this front, please share it. But no one ever seems to.

If I'm off base here, I'd be delighted to be wrong!!!


54 posted on 10/06/2004 12:31:10 PM PDT by cvq3842
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To: MarlboroRed

Part of what he's saying is true.

But part of what he's saying is also due to Bush's lack of communication skills and his failure to cohenertly and claerly communicate with the public the importance of our involvement in Iraq and its significance in the war with terror.

Bush has also made serious mistakes on the immigration issue, among others. The Administration should have come down like a sledge hammer on the Iraqi insurgents, should be playing up the new threats from Iran, Syria and Korea better and should have better planned out the anticipated aftermath of our victory there.

I don't believe Carl Rove is the political maven the Administration makes out to be.

And finally, a certain segment of the population unfairly associates Bush with wealthy elitism - extremely ironic given the nature of his opponents.

But Rush is right - Bush SHOULD be miles ahead of Kerry. Kerry is a traitor, a gigolo, and an extremely repellent looking individual with a political record all over the map. And he's married to the Bride of Frankenstein. Further, Kerry's record in Congress is beyond unremarkable -its a giant negative.

The educational establishment in this Country has been monopolized for decades by the far left, as has the mainstream media. Yet WHERE do you see wealthy Republicans setting up newspapers? What kind of retaliation has struck the educational unions which assume blatant political postures supportive of left-wing Democrats?

Whoever successfully challenges and destroys the left in this country - and that will never be Bush - he's too decent a guy - will have to be shrewd, sly, manipulative, ruthless and heavy-handed and do it with a benevolent smile on his face and the affability of a Ronald Reagan. We need someone who can smile in the face of people like Teddy Kennedy's and Diane Feinstein, while figuratively twisting the knife in their livers. And that's a tall order, but one we must somehow meet.


55 posted on 10/06/2004 12:31:39 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Bernard Marx

IMO, it's worth noting that the traditions of individual freedom that have characterized the American experience have only ever been really entrenched in English speaking nations. Too bad those nations are giving them up.

The closest we've seen to a revival of those traditions in recent years was probably the Reagan presidency. That offers some hope that such a revival could be possible, perhaps even among hispanic and minority populations, since most men have some ability to cherish freedom.

However, politicians seem more apt to favor the "what can I do for you" approach as a method of garnering votes.


56 posted on 10/06/2004 12:32:25 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: AuntB

good guy, bad guy?


57 posted on 10/06/2004 12:35:03 PM PDT by paulsy
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To: Sam Cree

place marker


58 posted on 10/06/2004 12:35:12 PM PDT by Kylie_04
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To: skip_intro

I don't know if anyone else will actually talk about this right now. Some people can't see the forest for the trees and Rush L. was one of those.

I live in a large Democrat area, 95% hispanic. It makes no difference what you tell these people, they will vote Democrat period. These are Christian conservative Democrats. During the Clinton/Monica fiasco they all sided with Clinton even telling me of their love affairs. LOL Since they did it, Clinton could do it also was their rationale.


59 posted on 10/06/2004 12:36:48 PM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: MarlboroRed

It probably doesn't help that we're all on FR when we should be in bed with our spouses "watching" Jay Leno.....(or not watching-wink-wink)


60 posted on 10/06/2004 12:36:54 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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