FRAME BY FRAME KERRY VIDEO: This is no pen.

http://www.zombietime.com/kerry_at_first_debate/ ^

[jjmnolte]

If this is a legit with no touch up, I'd say Kerry will atleast have to explain what it was. This is pretty darning (no swearing) stuff.

[jpw01]

Looks as though there may be a bit of a problem for Kerry then, doesn't it?

Does this take the heat off Dan Rather?

[cajungirl]

drudge has a good video. What I want to know is if he put it back in his pocket and if he did it surreptiously after the debate.

Neener, neener, neener,,,Kerry is a cheater.

[cajungirl]

You may be willing to let this drop, but others wont

[roylene]

Ok, so its paper and the rules are such that paper and pens could be placed before the "debate", what does it mean Kerry knew the questions before? had answers of the "might be asked questions"? he cheated? ...would the democrats cares? the undecided care?
What does it really mean? Will it be a smoking gun? I don't think so, I doesn't seem to matter that he has lied about his experience in Viet Nam and that he would turn the security of the USA over to veto's by the UN. ie global test

[RightWhale]

I want to see it on the front page of the NYT, and featured every day on the Dan Rather News.

[Diago]

I do digital forensics work. My forensic video gear is state of the art. If someone can furnish me with a clean high-res clip of the event, I'll take a look.

Could you ping me when you come to a conclusion?

[Blue Eyes]

I had heard that by the rules of the debate, each participant could have a pen and blank paper, pre-approved by the debate committee. W was taking notes during the debate, checking off items as he addressed them. Unless sKerry had paper other than that approved by the debate rules committee, he didn't violate the rules of the debate, as I recall hearing/reading about them.

[asgardshill]

Just me personally. And if you have a clear video clip showing it was something else, then go for it. I'm educable and amenable to changing my mind.

[MEG33]

http://www.indcjournal.com/archives/001054.php

[pierrem15]

He's obviously reading what he took out of his pocket, so I don't think it's a pen.

Kerry is the rankest, most arrogant opportunist to run for President in a long, long, time and he and the DNC will stop at nothing to lie and cheat their way into ofice:

a) Kerry's initial ampaign burglarized his oppenent's campaign office;

b)As Weld reported, Kerry is a good "closer" because he waits until the last minute to attack his opponent with ad hominem lies and slanders where the opponent does not have enough time to respond (he called Weld a "chicken hawk" over Vietnam, although Weld was 16 at the time US troops were withdrawn).

c)Kerry's campaign has coordinated illegally with MoveOn.org and other left-wing or Democrat 527's from the beginning (and gotten a pass from the MSM, of course)

d)the better Kerry thinks he is doing in the polls, the more savage and lying he and the DNC will become (witness the new "Bush is a liar" ad).

e)there is a massive "fraud out the vote" campaign being coordinated with the DNC and shadowy left-wing org's like ACORN across battleground states like Ohio, Florida, and Nevada

I can only hope his arrogance will be his undoing.

[soozla]

"Could you ping me when you come to a conclusion?"

Me too!! Sorry I don't have the ability to provide a high res. copy...but I'm sure there a some here who can and will.

[MississippiMan]

You bet.

[Viet-Boat-Rider]

NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY DISORDER

John Kerry has a big problem!

Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder (cautionary statement) A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

[Cableguy]

Can someone with technical expertise blow up the picture, and refine it a la CSI so we can see what he took out? Anyone who can do this and show Kerry cheatecd can eclipse Buckhead as the Freeper of the year.

[freeperfromnj]

bookmark

[deadhead]

See post #17

[Bushruffneck]

I know some freepers or DU Trolls are talking this down, but I believe this is huge. Just look what happened to CBS. If this story gets traction it will spell doom for Kerry because GWB will attack. I can hear is now on the Campaign stump.

" What documents did Sandy Burger stuff down his Pants? What documents did The senator use in our last debate?"

And I can see W walking out to the next two debates with his hands in the air mocking kerry and then W. asking"what did you pull out of your pocket Senator? How can the American people trust you when you can't even follow the rules of our debates?"

[mewzilla]

Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium..."

They'd better check Kerry's cuffs for the next two.

[RightWhale]

We expect no repeat of the Peejays Dan Ra^ther incident, but it would be refreshing to think it can happen again.

[Steven W.]

Thank you - I just sent the following to Mr. Lehrer at NPR:

YOU ARE A FRAUD!

I am going to press for defunding of NPR. This has gone on long enough. You are NOT SUPPOSED TO BE BIASED! You are a fraud! Your questions to the candidates at the debate were framed to support Kerry. At no time did you ask about his senate record. And now, to see, clear as day, YOU ALLOWED KERRY TO CHEAT BY BRINGING HIS OWN NOTES? YOU ARE A DAN RATHER FRAUD JIM LEHRER! GOOD RIDDANCE! Mr. & Mrs. Steven W.