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FRAME BY FRAME KERRY VIDEO: This is no pen.
http://www.zombietime.com/kerry_at_first_debate/ ^

Posted on 10/03/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by jjmnolte

If this is a legit with no touch up, I'd say Kerry will atleast have to explain what it was. This is pretty darning (no swearing) stuff.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheater; firstdebate; kerry
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1 posted on 10/03/2004 12:59:00 PM PDT by jjmnolte
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To: jjmnolte

Too dark for me to see.


2 posted on 10/03/2004 1:00:12 PM PDT by MEG33 (John Kerry has been AWOL on issues of national security for two decades)
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To: jjmnolte

Not getting any frames here


3 posted on 10/03/2004 1:00:57 PM PDT by RightWhale (Withdraw from the 1967 UN Outer Space Treaty and establish property rights)
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To: jjmnolte

I heard they were both allowed to have pen and paper for note taking.


4 posted on 10/03/2004 1:04:02 PM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: jjmnolte

Was there a prohibition on taking notes during the debate? This could have been a blank piece of paper for that purpose.


5 posted on 10/03/2004 1:04:28 PM PDT by jpw01 (Freep the world!)
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To: jjmnolte

too dark
I wonder if this will get anywhere, seems his refusal to sign the form 180 releasing his military records has gone unnoticed.....yet they scream, hollar and stamp their feet until the president found his papers.....


6 posted on 10/03/2004 1:04:48 PM PDT by Burlem
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To: mykdsmom

Yes, but it had to be submitted beforehand and placed on the podium prior to the debate by the commission.


7 posted on 10/03/2004 1:05:01 PM PDT by jjmnolte
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To: jjmnolte

ATTN: Buckhead...................
ATTN: Buckhead...................


8 posted on 10/03/2004 1:05:07 PM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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To: jjmnolte

doesn't matter if it were a pen or not, the rules said they were to bring nothing and pens and paper would be provided if requested. But I agree, it is not a pen


9 posted on 10/03/2004 1:05:12 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: mykdsmom

Yes, they were. To be placed on the podium by a third party. Kerry pulled what appears to be a cheat sheet out of his pocket while his back is turned to the audience. He's busted.


10 posted on 10/03/2004 1:05:32 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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To: jpw01

'was there a prohibition on taking notes'?

answer:

Section 5, pages 4-5 of the binding "Memorandum of Understanding" that was negotiated and agreed upon by both political campaigns states:

"No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by either candidate.... Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium..."


11 posted on 10/03/2004 1:06:10 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: jjmnolte

Still looks like a wristwatch to me. I can't get excited about this.


12 posted on 10/03/2004 1:06:54 PM PDT by orangelobster
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To: jjmnolte

EMAIL Jim Lehrer @:

onlinenewshour@newshour.org


13 posted on 10/03/2004 1:07:17 PM PDT by soozla ("I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure............"-John Kerry)
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To: jjmnolte

I do digital forensics work. My forensic video gear is state of the art. If someone can furnish me with a clean high-res clip of the event, I'll take a look.

MM


14 posted on 10/03/2004 1:07:26 PM PDT by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Darth Reagan

ping


15 posted on 10/03/2004 1:07:29 PM PDT by marblehead17 (I love it when a plan comes together.)
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To: jjmnolte
Could have been a snot rag or a pack of tissues. At least that's what it looked like to me.

Unless there's a clearer rendering of this somewhere ("upon further review"), I'm almost prepared to let this one drop.

16 posted on 10/03/2004 1:07:40 PM PDT by asgardshill (Got a lump of coal? Tell Mary Mapes to 'shove it' - in 2 weeks you'll have a diamond.)
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Never mind, apparently they weren't allowed.

This from Drudge:

Section 5, pages 4-5 of the binding "Memorandum of Understanding" that was negotiated and agreed upon by both political campaigns states:

"No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by either candidate.... Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium..."

Drudge: DEBATE MYSTERY: DID KERRY HAVE CHEAT SHEET?

Of course we all know that RATS don't play by the rules anyway.

17 posted on 10/03/2004 1:07:51 PM PDT by mykdsmom
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To: mykdsmom

pen and paper were already on the podium. They were not to bring ANYTHING with them. Kerry clearly takes "something" that looks like note cards or a piece of paper out of his jacket. IMHO


18 posted on 10/03/2004 1:08:10 PM PDT by N8VTXNinWV (God Bless GWBush)
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To: jpw01
Was there a prohibition on taking notes during the debate? This could have been a blank piece of paper for that purpose.

The rules said any of that had to be on the podiums before the candidates went on stage. I didn't like all the rules myself but if the candiates agree they should obey.

19 posted on 10/03/2004 1:08:11 PM PDT by Fatalis
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To: RightWhale

go to this site and you can see

http://washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/mmedia/politics/093004-15v.ram


20 posted on 10/03/2004 1:08:12 PM PDT by mammer
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