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New Document Indicates Kerry Wrote Disputed Vietnam Report
The New York Sun ^ | October 1, 2004 | THOMAS LIPSCOMB - Special to the Sun

Posted on 10/03/2004 10:32:04 AM PDT by X180A

A faded 35-year-old operations order recovered from the Naval Historical Center in Washington bears directly on the ongoing dispute between Senator Kerry and the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth about who wrote the key after-action report that ended Mr. Kerry's service in Vietnam. The report appears in the official Navy records and is posted on Mr. Kerry's campaign Web site.

According to a Navy communications expert, Troy Jenkins, who has examined the message traffic, the report in question was sent from the USCGC Spencer, Commander Lonsdale's command ship, at 11:20 that night. Only three of the officers on the mission that day were on the Spencer: John Kerry, Dick Pease, and Donald Droz. Droz took the wounded from the mine explosion to be examined and treated at the Spencer, including the third officer, the severely wounded Dick Pease. Since the Spencer had no helipad for the evacuation of the wounded, Mr. Droz then had to return to the USS Washtenaw County, an LST stationed about 25 nautical miles away, for medevac, leaving only Mr. Kerry aboard the Spencer at the time the message was sent at 11:20 that night.

Kerry spokesmen have repeatedly insisted that Mr. Kerry denies writing the report and that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were arguing with the official Navy record. But if "the official Navy record" now turns out to have been written by Mr. Kerry himself, the principal beneficiary of its glowing references to his performance, the Swift Boat critics' charges look far more consequential.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bronzestar; kerry; lies; lurchgate; medal; purpleheart; sbv; silverstar; swiftboat; swiftboatvets; vietnam
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1 posted on 10/03/2004 10:32:05 AM PDT by X180A
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"I actually didn't write the report before I wrote the report".
2 posted on 10/03/2004 10:35:13 AM PDT by Fatalis
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To: X180A

gotta have a password to read it


3 posted on 10/03/2004 10:36:28 AM PDT by knak
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To: X180A

Pretty sure this was posted last week.


4 posted on 10/03/2004 10:36:42 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: X180A

Interesting, but too bad you gotta provide credit card info(to pay after a free 30 day trial) to view the entire article.


5 posted on 10/03/2004 10:37:45 AM PDT by SolitaryMan
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To: X180A

yea can someone post the rest of it in sections? or will they sue us?


6 posted on 10/03/2004 10:39:11 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/welfare.htm)
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To: X180A

The swifties need to put this in ad form, along with the SecNav (Lehman)denials.


7 posted on 10/03/2004 10:44:40 AM PDT by umgud (Donate monthly, don't be a Freeploader)
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To: X180A; tongue-tied; ActiveDutyUSMC; dakine; bkwells; chookter; Hacksaw434; thumperusn; Hostel; ...

Hanoi Kerry : Is this one of your October suprises? Tick, Tick, Tick PING!


8 posted on 10/03/2004 10:48:18 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (MAKE SURE YOU ARE CURRENTLY REGISTERED AND VOTE Nov 2nd!)
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bump


9 posted on 10/03/2004 10:48:48 AM PDT by Soaring Feather (~Poetry is my forte.~)
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To: SolitaryMan

Go to bugmenot.com

The Bill Hickock login works.


10 posted on 10/03/2004 10:48:55 AM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: X180A
"TE" for example refers to a "task element," which is defined by the numbers to the right that shows the command structure over the task element in action. "194" is Admiral Elmo Zumwalt, commander of U.S. naval forces in Vietnam; "5" is Admiral Roy Hoffman's Swift boat command; "4" is Commander Adrian Lonsdale's command; the last "4" is Captain George Elliot's Swift boat base at An Thoi, where the boats on this mission were based. And the final "/1" indicates someone other than the commander of the mission. If the report had been submitted by the mission commander, in this case Larry Thurlow, according to the operations order, it would have begun with a "C" for commander of the Task Element, and the sender would have been "CTE 194.5.4.4."
11 posted on 10/03/2004 10:49:29 AM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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Someone should interview the USCGC Spencer radioman... typically these reports were either delivered to radio in handwritten form or verbally submitted to be typed out on teletype..


12 posted on 10/03/2004 10:50:09 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Global Tests in the defense of our Country are not supported by the CONSTITUTION.)
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To: X180A

http://www.suntimes.com/output/elect/cst-nws-lip01.html

I think it's the same article. Published Friday.


13 posted on 10/03/2004 10:50:29 AM PDT by Tarpon
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

O/S's are incoming to skerry soon....hehehehehe...and the RATS are monitoring FR 24/7 to see if they can get a hint of what they are!!!! Man...there is so much he's tried to coverup during his 20yrs as a senator on himself. It will impossible for them to figure out just which ones are incoming!!! ;o)


14 posted on 10/03/2004 10:57:14 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: X180A
Kerry spokesmen have repeatedly insisted that Mr. Kerry denies writing the report and that the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth were arguing with the official Navy record. But if "the official Navy record" now turns out to have been written by Mr. Kerry himself, the principal beneficiary of its glowing references to his performance, the Swift Boat critics' charges look far more consequential.

Boy, one would think that someone who focus's on the military of thirty some years past in a campaign would put ALL question to rest with form 180.

After all, JFK has nothing to hide but his humility, right?

15 posted on 10/03/2004 11:00:24 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

MEET THE AUTHOR

16 posted on 10/03/2004 11:02:18 AM PDT by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra [https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate])
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

BTTT!!!!!!


17 posted on 10/03/2004 11:03:01 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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JOHN KERRY = Enemy of Vietnam Vets

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1320

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18 posted on 10/03/2004 11:11:47 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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Holy mackerel. This is a KILLER STORY! Kerry ran away at the first sign of combat, went back when he thought it was safe, and then made up a story to send in about his own heroism, inventing all sorts of dangers that never happened.

If it can be proved that he was alone on the boat that sent in the report, his goose is cooked.

Yes, yes, I know. The MSM will ignore this story just as they have ignored the testimony of more than 150 Vietnam veterans. But I do believe it can be gotten out.


19 posted on 10/03/2004 11:12:41 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: knak

go to bugmenot.com


20 posted on 10/03/2004 11:16:03 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Santorum 2008)
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