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1 posted on 10/03/2004 6:42:45 AM PDT by ejdrapes
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To: ejdrapes

Ol' Bob is finally growing up, I see. Well, better late than never!


2 posted on 10/03/2004 6:49:50 AM PDT by Ladysmith ("One person with a belief is equal to a force of ninety-nine who only have interest." J.S. Mill)
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To: NYer; sinkspur; AAABEST; BlackElk
FYI BUMP

Interesting, no?

3 posted on 10/03/2004 6:51:37 AM PDT by B Knotts ("John Kerry, who says he doesn't like outsourcing, wants to outsource our national security.")
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To: ejdrapes

Geldof also argues that too much emphasis is placed on the ephemeral attractions of the wedding day, without thought for the real meaning of the marriage vow.


5 posted on 10/03/2004 6:53:16 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Am back but just for a short while)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs

ping


6 posted on 10/03/2004 6:54:32 AM PDT by BigWaveBetty (Kerry - Indecision married with a lack of vision, shapeshifting, magical thinker, throws like a girl)
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To: ejdrapes
“Perhaps a lot of it is down to an overblown sense of self. We imagine ourselves to be free people, but we should not be free to destroy others, especially children. We have confused freedom with the idea of choice, we have become voracious consumers, not just of stuff, but of the soul.”

Powerful stuff.

“Why is it you cannot support the institution of marriage without sounding terrifically old-fashioned or right-wing? It’s wrong.

Well, it's old-fashioned if you're talking about hetero marriage; it's cool if you're talking about homo marriage.

7 posted on 10/03/2004 6:55:21 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: ejdrapes

Good for you Bob. Your heart was in the right place and your head followed.


10 posted on 10/03/2004 7:01:41 AM PDT by dennisw (Gd is against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: ejdrapes
I couldn't agree more. The breakdown of the family - the most integral unit of society - will be our undoing as a nation. The emphasis should be on what's best for the family, what's best for the children and what's morally right for the country.

The easy-out of no-fault divorce, or divorce on demand must be stopped! Not only is no-fault morally wrong, but it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Where else can the plaintiff win EVERY time whether or not they are in the wrong?

Take a look at what goes on in family courts. The person wanting to break the "contract" (marriage) is usually the one who files for divorce. They are usually committing adultery and it is known to the court. Yet, the court will grant the divorce every time based only upon the word of the party wanting to terminate the marriage. The divorce is a done deal the minute the papers are filed. What remains is to divide the assets and the children. 1st, 4th, 9th and 14th amendment rights of the respondent/defendant and the children are ignored. The adultery of the offending spouse is ignored.

Try to fight it and you will be punished by the court in terms of property, custody, support - in any way the black robed thug sitting on the bench decides. My husband stole our community property savings - more than $250,000 - and built a house for his whore. The two of them ran up more than $136,000 in credit card debt during the year we were fighting it out in court. He came to court claiming to be virtually penniless and broke because of family bills. Even though we had evidence that these were not family bills - most were for travel and things for their home - the judge ordered my home to be sold to settle their credit card debt. (This particular judge should have not been sitting on the bench as it was proven by a taped telephone conversation that she had direct conversations with a woman in another case.) She didn't order the sale of his home to settle his debts. I almost went to jail for contempt of the order to sell the home and had to file a writ of mandamus against the judge. If I had gone to jail, the state would have taken my children since their father didn't want them. I can tell you that finding out about his cheating and lies was bad, but what they did to us (me and the kids) in court was worse.

13 posted on 10/03/2004 7:35:42 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: ejdrapes
"the number of divorces reached than 150,000 in 2003 — an increase of 4% on the previous year and, at 14 for every 1,000 married people, the highest rate for seven years."

And, of course, that isn't even taking into account the rapidly rising numbers of cohabitating couples who never bother to marry at all, or single parents who produce multiple offspring with multiple partners without even a pretense of a relationship with the sperm/egg donor. It's not uncommon to run across women who have children and don't even know their fathers' names. That in no way excuses the fathers who go around making like Johnny Appleseed, planting their seed in any available receptacle.

I deal with the products of such irresponsibility every day, and it is tragic. We are trying to prop up this country on a crumbling foundation built upon the sand, where even the components are defective or decayed. It won't work.

15 posted on 10/03/2004 8:00:36 AM PDT by sweetliberty (Proud member of the Pajama Posse!)
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To: ejdrapes

Why can't you defend marriage without sound right-wing? That's easy: because the Left is waging an all-out war to abolish marriage.


21 posted on 10/03/2004 8:11:51 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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To: ejdrapes
“Why is it you cannot support the institution of marriage without sounding terrifically old-fashioned or right-wing? It’s wrong.

For the same reason you can not bring up G-d or bedrock faith without sounding right-wing or old fashioned. The left has rejected these positions for a "I am the center of the universe" mentality. It isn't so much that the right embraced those values as they have been forced into the position of keeping the left from destroying them.

It might not have been always so but it is now.

23 posted on 10/03/2004 8:18:05 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (There is no Chaos. Only very complicated Order. (Presenting Lady Snuggles of the Lethal Yew in PJ's!)
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To: ejdrapes

Geldof has courage.


24 posted on 10/03/2004 8:18:31 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: ejdrapes

?This marriage stuff is a serious thing. It is not to be entered into and dissolved on a whim and to make light of it is a profound mistake. Yet that is precisely what the law allows us and encourages us to do. ?
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Well DuH!!


Another Leftist's sees the Light!!


25 posted on 10/03/2004 8:21:02 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Keep RIGHT or get LEFT behind!!)
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To: ejdrapes
“Perhaps a lot of it is down to an overblown sense of self. We imagine ourselves to be free people, but we should not be free to destroy others, especially children. We have confused freedom with the idea of choice, we have become voracious consumers, not just of stuff, but of the soul.”

Sometimes age DOES bring wisdom!

26 posted on 10/03/2004 8:26:42 AM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004-Because we MUST!!!)
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WTF is wrong with all of you holier-than-thous on this thread clucking your tongues about Geldof as though you "told him so"? He was married to the mother of his children who walked out on him back in 1995 and he didn't just shrug off his kids he sued and got custody. You think he's just waking up today?
28 posted on 10/03/2004 8:37:11 AM PDT by Fatalis
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To: ejdrapes
Geldof, former lead singer with the Boomtown Rats .....

The article leaves out his notable performance as the character "Pink" in the film version of Pink Floyd's "The Wall," in which (among other things) he gets to shave off all his body hair and don the persona of a neo-fascist rock-star, replete with goose-stepping minions in black quasi-Nazi regalia, in the unforgetable "In the Flesh":

Pink Floyd
In The Flesh


So ya thought ya might like to go to the show.
To feel the warm thrill of confusion, that space cadet glow.
I got me some bad news for you, Sunshine.
Pink isn't well, he stayed back at the hotel,
And he sent us along as a surrugate band.
We're gonna find out where you fans really stand.
Are there any queers in the theatre tonight?
Get 'em up against the wall. -- 'Gainst the wall!
And that one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me.
Get him up against the wall. -- 'Gainst the wall!
And that one looks Jewish, and that one's a coon.
Who let all this riffraff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint, and another with spots!
If I had my way I'd have all of ya shot.

30 posted on 10/03/2004 9:00:02 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: ejdrapes

Excellent article, thanks for posting it.


32 posted on 10/03/2004 9:12:57 AM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: ejdrapes

Spoken from someone who knows all too well.....Prayers for Sir Geldolf and his extended family.


34 posted on 10/03/2004 11:10:38 AM PDT by mabelkitty (Do not indulge the Negative Nervous Nellies with reassurances.)
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To: ejdrapes
The man has courage, he's right on both counts:

“I know it’s uncool, and I truly have no desire to cause upset or offence by saying this, but the truth of every study is clear: dual-parent upbringing produces healthier, better educated children. That’s it.”

35 posted on 10/03/2004 11:11:22 AM PDT by GOPJ (The effect of‘MSM bias’ is the Democratic party and the press sustain each other’s delusions. Steyn)
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To: ejdrapes

Is it just me or is this a no-brainer? I mean, doesn't it go waaaayyy back to the Japanese philosophy of yin and yang?


41 posted on 10/11/2004 6:12:20 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (Miss Free Republic High School-198?)
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