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Move On: Full Page Ad in NYT Slamming Gallup
NY Times | Sept 28 | MoveOn.org

Posted on 09/28/2004 1:34:36 PM PDT by jern

The ad text:

WHY DOES AMERICA’S TOP POLLSTER KEEP GETTING IT WRONG?

If John Kerry believed in the Gallup poll, he might as well give up. A couple of weeks ago,a highly publicized Gallup poll of “likely voters” showed President Bush with a staggering 14-point lead.

But wait a minute. Seven other polls of likely voters were released that same week. On average, they showed Bush with just a three-point lead. No one else came close to Gallup’s figures. And this isn’t the first time the prestigious Gallup survey has been out on a limb with pro-Bush findings.

What’s going on here? It’s not exactly that Gallup’s cooking the books. Rather, they are refusing to fix a longstanding problem with their likely voter methodology.

Simply put, Gallup’s methodology has predicted lately that Republican turnout on Election Day is likely to exceed Democrats’ by six to eight percentage point. But exit polls show otherwise: in each of the last two Presidential elections, Democratic turnout exceeded Republican by four to five points. That discrepancy alone can account for nearly all of Bush’s phantom 14-point lead.

This is more than just a numbers game. Poll results profoundly affect a campaign’s news coverage as well as the public’s perception of the candidates.

Two media outlets, CNN and USA Today, bear special responsibility for this problem. They pay for many of Gallup’s surveys, in exchange for the right to add their names to the polls and trumpet the results first. They wind up acting as unquestioning promotional partners, rather than as critical journalists. The public would be better served if journalists asked some tough questions, beginning with the Gallup Organization, which has been asked to select the audience for the Bush-Kerry “town meeting” debate on October 8.

George Gallup Jr., son of the poll’s founder, was the longtime head of the company and now directs its non-profit research center. Why hasn’t he pushed for an update of the company’s likely voter modeling, which his own father pioneered in the 1950s?

Gallup, who is a devout evangelical Christian, has been quoted as calling his polling “a kind of ministry.” And a few months ago, he said “the most profound purpose of polls is to see how people are responding to God.”

We thought the purpose is to faithfully and factually report public opinion.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: mware

Wonder what kind of bigoted comment they will have when Zogby puts out his next poll?


81 posted on 09/28/2004 3:30:58 PM PDT by mware
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

82 posted on 09/28/2004 3:32:13 PM PDT by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Comrade Hillary - 6/28/04)
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To: EagleUSA

Well, they're setting up their voter fraud alibi too.

You can convince people of, say, the intellectual magnitude of O'Reilly by planting a fake story and later point to it as fact.

They're running psy-ops.

Remember when that guy I never heard of before and still don't know anything about, really, came back from Iraq and declaired "No WMD!" and everyone except dummies like me believed it and brain trusts, such as O'Reilly, apologized...for something, I was never clear on what.

Perfect example of psy-ops.

Luckily, I'm not as bright as most people, so psy-ops doesn't work very well on me.


83 posted on 09/28/2004 3:34:55 PM PDT by Duke Nukum ([T]he only true mystery is that our very lives are governed by dead people.)
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To: jern

Leftists really have a difficult time coping. It seems that they can't seem to accept it when things don't go their way.

They lose elections, the voting machines were rigged.

The perform poorly in polls, the polls are rigged.

Their campaign flounders, and it's everyone else's fault.

They get fired, it's because they were discriminated against.

Someone gets selected over them, it's because they were treated unfairly.

They perform poorly on an exam or test, it's because the test was unfair.

For a bunch of folks evidently convinced of their invincibility, they sure don't seem to do very well.

Every day and every way, I thank God I am not a democrat.


84 posted on 09/28/2004 3:37:35 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: jern

They sure know how to use all that money! Keep it up, MoveOn!


85 posted on 09/28/2004 3:44:05 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: Carling

Can't they just "move on" go away, shut up, leave us all alone, anything? I hope Bush beats Kerry by 10 points because that will hopefully shut these fools up for a while.


86 posted on 09/28/2004 3:48:57 PM PDT by Ron N2
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To: jern

at the same time, USA TODAY, pulled the ad RightMarch.com paid for demanding *accountability* from Dan Rather
and CBS News..
very telling on who runs the MSM in America
they actually turned down MONEY


87 posted on 09/28/2004 3:52:03 PM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: jern

They are trying to discredit the polls because it will a) keep their people home on election day and b) will be harder to steal with an 8 point lead than a 1 or 2 point lead.


88 posted on 09/28/2004 3:58:28 PM PDT by mabelkitty (Troll-Patrol! You've been warned.)
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To: jern
Just like leftists. At least they're PREDICTABLE.

When they aren't told what suits their agenda, they either spew venom and hate, or attempt to discredit the information source.

This time, they've chosen the latter.
89 posted on 09/28/2004 4:12:06 PM PDT by hiredhand
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To: Lance Romance
I though Judy Woodruff was going to cry.

She always looks like that...

90 posted on 09/28/2004 4:16:09 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: jern

http://www.moveon.org/content/pdfs/Final-Gallup-Ad.pdf

PDF file showing the ad


91 posted on 09/28/2004 4:22:45 PM PDT by Cableguy
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To: IamConservative

how they will react when Bush wins by 10 points...IT GOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS : SHOCK-DENIAL-ANGER-SUICIDE...WOOHOO!


92 posted on 09/28/2004 4:38:24 PM PDT by UltraKonservativen (( YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID ))
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To: jern

Just think what their ad will say the day or so after the election. It won't be an apology.


93 posted on 09/28/2004 4:41:36 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: devolve
moveaway.org

far, far away - BUMP

94 posted on 09/28/2004 6:16:01 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Just 36 more days until November 2nd.)
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To: jern
Kerry's chances - 0
95 posted on 09/28/2004 6:43:01 PM PDT by Henchman (Kerry lied, good men died!)
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To: fhlh

Well we all know that PEW is a shill for the VRWC.
/sarcasm


96 posted on 09/28/2004 7:44:06 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: devolve

Thanks for the ping!


97 posted on 09/28/2004 7:54:35 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Pitiricus

MoveBowel.org


98 posted on 09/28/2004 8:27:38 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (FreedomLoving_Engineer)
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