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Michigan now a dead heat in new poll
PR Newswire ^

Posted on 09/28/2004 9:14:00 AM PDT by Nascardude

LANSING, Mich., Sept. 28 /PRNewswire/ -- An already tight race for Michigan's 17 electoral votes between President George W. Bush and U.S. Senator John Kerry, the Democratic nominee, just got tighter. Kerry leads Bush by only two percentage points, his smallest edge in three months, and it appears the number of undecided voters may be expanding slightly. Kerry is ahead of Bush, 45%-43%, with only 1% for Ralph Nader. About 11% of the state's voters claim to be undecided, refused to answer whom they will vote for, or say they don't know (U/RtA/DK). Those are the conclusions of a statewide survey commissioned by Inside Michigan Politics and conducted by Lansing-based Marketing Resource Group, Inc., between Sept. 20 and 24. The poll sampled 600 registered voters stratified by city and/or township, based on past voting history. 36% of the respondents are behavioral Democrats; 30% behavioral Republicans; 27% are ticket-splitters; and about 7% refused to characterize their voting habits or had never voted before. Statistical margin of error is + or - 4.1%. MRG is the state's oldest and most reliable polling organization on Michigan issues and political races. Inside Michigan Politics, founded in 1987, is the largest-circulation bi-weekly, state-based political newsletter in North America. The race between Kerry and Bush in Michigan has closed within the past 10 days, headed into the candidates' first debate in Coral Gables, FL, this Thursday evening. Six weeks ago, Kerry boasted his biggest Michigan lead, 49%-42%, in the wake of the Democratic National Convention. Now, however, IMP/MRG and another survey taken by Fox News on Sept. 21-22 shows the race has tightened to a virtual draw. The survey also found that Michigan voters support both proposals that will be on the Nov. 2 general election ballot: 04-1, which would require that any new form of gambling in Michigan must be subject to approval by voters locally as well as statewide; and 04-2, which would effectively ban so-called "gay marriage" in the state. Voters favor Prop 04-1, 63%-27%, with about 10% U/RtA/DK; voters support Prop 04-2, 61%-33% (6% U/RtA/DK), which is an even greater margin than IMP/MRG found when essentially the same question was asked six months ago.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: 2004; battleground; bluestate; deadheat; imp; michiganpoll; napalminthemorning; poll
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To: Area51
One would think that the RNC would place monitors, lawyers, etc. in Detroit to ensure at least some oversight. The Dems do it every election in every state. They wait for the suburban and rural vote tallies and then manufacture enough votes in the big cities to overcome the Rep advantage.
41 posted on 09/28/2004 9:53:30 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Fredgoblu

I also happen to think the Detroit Dem voters are very unenthused by this candidate and the turn-out in fraud rich areas will be lower than in the past.

Only one of my neighbors had a sign for JFnK, then I got my sign up and then I noticed 3 more GWB signs. Of course, it is most likely the distribution process, but I like to think that I inspired them! I'm in the Pelham, Outer, Carlysle area.......


42 posted on 09/28/2004 9:55:28 AM PDT by CSM ("Don't be economic girlie men!" - Governator, August 31, 2004, RNC)
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To: Nascardude

Michigan has a traditional marriage preservation ballot proposal as well, so that should boost the turnout of conservative leaning voters, hopefully in a similar fashion as happened in Missouri during this past summer.


43 posted on 09/28/2004 9:56:37 AM PDT by leftcoaster
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To: Clump

Union fraud in Michigan has gone on for years and years but no one ever wants to look into it. One fortunate thing is that the unions don't have the grip they use to have in Detroit - they are the ones that basically ruined the auto industry in the state - Flint is a ghost town and I really don't think they will ever recover - Detroit seems to be bringing in more high tech jobs (good for Republicans) but it will take a long time. Michigan is a really beautiful state and I love it dearly but politics there are down and dirty and if a union boss tells you to vote for a Democrat you vote for a Democrat.


44 posted on 09/28/2004 9:58:31 AM PDT by finallyatexan
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To: Nascardude

But, but, but...isn't Michael Moore going to bring Michigan for Kerry?


45 posted on 09/28/2004 10:01:53 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: Clump

see my 6

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1229364/posts


46 posted on 09/28/2004 10:04:32 AM PDT by Covenantor (CBS Counterfeit But Sincere)
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To: Area51
Don't forget that 200,000 of those Gore voters were by dead registered voters.

Do you have any proof at all of this?

47 posted on 09/28/2004 10:07:14 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Nascardude
The one man, one woman marriage question (from the article):

The survey also found that Michigan voters support both proposals that will be on the Nov. 2 general election ballot: 04-1, which would require that any new form of gambling in Michigan must be subject to approval by voters locally as well as statewide; and 04-2, which would effectively ban so-called "gay marriage" in the state.

Voters favor Prop 04-1, 63%-27%, with about 10% U/RtA/DK; voters support Prop 04-2, 61%-33% (6% U/RtA/DK), which is an even greater margin than IMP/MRG found when essentially the same question was asked six months ago.
48 posted on 09/28/2004 10:13:39 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("How dare you question my [^.*$]. Did you know I served in the Clone Wars?")
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To: CSM
 Detroit Dem voters are very unenthused by this candidate and the turn-out in fraud rich areas will be lower than in the past.
 
Although I wouldn't bet on it I am hopeful of this too. Voter fraud doesn't happen on its own. It takes some organization. Somewhere down the line there has to be somebody who is willing to put his butt on the line to make it happen. Although the the threat of prosecution is by no means what it should be there is a growing awareness of the problem, and the new media, computers, video cameras, instant communication etc make it more likely you will get caught than ever before. So the question for the Democrat fraud captain becomes "is it worth it to me personally to take these risks for a guy who is likely to lose anyway?" There is a growing potential that if it looks like Kerry will lose for sure the vote fraudsters will put their extra ballots back in their pockets and wait until 2008. If that happens then you will see a landslide.

49 posted on 09/28/2004 10:26:43 AM PDT by azcap
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To: CSM

"What suburb do you live in? Mine had a few JFnK signs up, but lately I've noteced a lot of GWB signs here in the home of Henry Ford!"

Surprising to hear about the pro Bush signs in the home of Henry Ford! We are in the People's Republic of Livonia, and it's surprising how many Bush signs are in our neighborhood this time around.


50 posted on 09/28/2004 10:28:32 AM PDT by PilloryHillary (John Kerry LIED http://www.johnfkerrysucks.com)
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To: kabar

"Bush lost Michigan to Gore by 117,000 votes (51.2% to 46.1%). Gore won Wayne County (Detroit and its environs) by 227,000 votes. If the GOP can crack down on voter fraud in Detroit, he would win easily."

I agree totally, but this time around the Democrats have a dud for a candidate.....the blacks don't adore him like they did Clinton & Gore. I predict a lower turnout in Detroit combined with more black people voting Bush this year... and that will help.


51 posted on 09/28/2004 10:32:12 AM PDT by PilloryHillary (John Kerry LIED http://www.johnfkerrysucks.com)
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To: Mike Fieschko

I'm somewhat dubious of Prop. 1 and wouldn't mind any Freeper insight. Personally I am not sure a Const. Ammendment is necessary with regards to gambling. In addition, the current process allows for local input through city councils. I'm not sure what is accomplished by approving prop 1 and at this time I am leaning heavily towards popping the "no" chad!


52 posted on 09/28/2004 10:36:57 AM PDT by CSM ("Don't be economic girlie men!" - Governator, August 31, 2004, RNC)
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To: johnfkerrysucks

Nice to meet ya, neighbor! Now, bring me some cookies!

What do you think of prop 1?


53 posted on 09/28/2004 10:52:49 AM PDT by CSM ("Don't be economic girlie men!" - Governator, August 31, 2004, RNC)
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To: Nascardude

I'm actually pleasantly surprised with this poll. Michigan is a sleeper state, I believe. The president lost this state by just 5 points or so in 2000. I think the Prez can still take this one, especially considering that both Nader and the gay marriage ban are going to be on the Michigan ballot. It could make the difference. Let's hope and pray to God it does.


54 posted on 09/28/2004 11:19:54 AM PDT by No Dems 2004
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To: Nascardude

If the Detroit vote stays home, Kerry's toast.


55 posted on 09/28/2004 11:21:39 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

And with the Marriage Protection Amendment on the ballot, turnout will be skewed in favor of candidates who support defending one-man, one-woman marriage. In the Missouri primary, for example, 40,000 voters turned out to vote on the marriage amendment alone...then went home without bothering to vote in contested gubernatorial primaries or Congressional races or anything else. Right now in Michigan, the most aggressive voter registration campaign I've ever witnessed is going on in churches, driven by the marriage issue.


56 posted on 09/28/2004 11:26:59 AM PDT by AFA-Michigan
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To: CSM

"What do you think of prop 1?"

I will probably vote NO. I don't like changing the consitution just to help the casinos make more money. It seems like it could be a slippery slope....I don't see how letting this pass will help anyone but the tribal casino owners. As it stands, most tribal casinos would be exempt so they don't have to give money to the schools etc., so gambling will be popping up all over (from the grocery stores to the restaurants) and they'll make more money. The communities and schools are the ones who will suffer. I have nothing against someone gambling their own money, but it has to benefit the community in some way and I don't see how prop 1 will do that.


57 posted on 09/28/2004 11:27:58 AM PDT by PilloryHillary (John Kerry LIED http://www.johnfkerrysucks.com)
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To: AFA-Michigan

If Bush wins states like Michigan and New Jersey, this election will be a major landslide.


58 posted on 09/28/2004 11:28:14 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Dales

Mich poll ping.


59 posted on 09/28/2004 11:28:42 AM PDT by WoodstockCat (DNC and John Kerry: Forgers R' Us)
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To: Nascardude

Down to the wire....


60 posted on 09/28/2004 11:29:30 AM PDT by Ciexyz (At his first crisis, "President" Kerry will sail his Swiftboat to safety, then call Teddy.)
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